Five Players Arrested

[Irish#1]

What gets me is the whole policing situation around SB. For a rathole town that exists only because of the college, it seems the police seem to cash in on arresting ND players pretty frequently. When is the last time you saw a Stanford player in trouble? Now are Stanford players better people or do the area law enforcement just go easier on them? Im guessing no one at OSU ever does weed or drive intoxicated right? No handguns at USC, no sir. All those players are angel clean.

Stanford is in California. Need I say more?

 

[woolybug25]

What gets me is the whole policing situation around SB. For a rathole town that exists only because of the college, it seems the police seem to cash in on arresting ND players pretty frequently. When is the last time you saw a Stanford player in trouble? Now are Stanford players better people or do the area law enforcement just go easier on them? Im guessing no one at OSU ever does weed or drive intoxicated right? No handguns at USC, no sir. All those players are angel clean.

You apparently don't know anything about the town of South Bend. Studabaker didn't give a shit about ND when he chose to plant his shop in South Bend. There's a lot of history to the town other than Notre Dame. You may have a point about the PD, but don't talk shit about a city you don't know dick about.

 

[Irish2155]

You apparently don't know anything about the town of South Bend. Studabaker didn't give a shit about ND when he chose to plant his shop in South Bend. There's a lot of history to the town other than Notre Dame. You may have a point about the PD, but don't talk shit about a city you don't know dick about.

Place has some bad ass houses up near the Granger area.

 

[phgreek]

You apparently don't know anything about the town of South Bend. Studabaker didn't give a shit about ND when he chose to plant his shop in South Bend. There's a lot of history to the town other than Notre Dame. You may have a point about the PD, but don't talk shit about a city you don't know dick about.

Its almost like you aren't an ND student...and you live/work in South Bend

 

[arrowryan]

You apparently don't know anything about the town of South Bend. Studabaker didn't give a shit about ND when he chose to plant his shop in South Bend. There's a lot of history to the town other than Notre Dame. You may have a point about the PD, but don't talk shit about a city you don't know dick about.

I'd rep you but I need to spread reps around first. Thanks for backing up the 574.

 

[ARALOU]

Mike Golic Jr. wasnt he charged with UA drinking? Clausen? Montana? Not sure what this has to with this last thing with Red field and co. but there is a list of college kids..being college kids.

 

[dang227]

Mike Golic Jr. wasnt he charged with UA drinking?

Yep. His dad was talking about it yesterday on air.


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[IrishBroker]

Here's the thing...PD's are the exact same in every town that is built around colleges.

SB isn't special in that regard. There is always a cop with a hard-on in every college town.

I don't see how that is even relevant. These kids were breaking the law.

 

[connor_in]

I'd rep you but I need to spread reps around first. Thanks for backing up the 574.

The 574 isn't just South Bend



OSCEOLA Rocks!!!!!!!

 

[arrowryan]

The 574 isn't just South Bend



OSCEOLA Rocks!!!!!!!

Lmao does the leader of the KKK still live there? The fact that he at least lived there recently is so interesting to me

 

[connor_in]

Lmao does the leader of the KKK still live there? The fact that he at least lived there recently is so interesting to me

dude...its not like he runs the town

 

[arrowryan]

dude...its not like he runs the town

Are you sure?

 

[irishroo]

What gets me is the whole policing situation around SB. For a rathole town that exists only because of the college, it seems the police seem to cash in on arresting ND players pretty frequently. When is the last time you saw a Stanford player in trouble? Now are Stanford players better people or do the area law enforcement just go easier on them? Im guessing no one at OSU ever does weed or drive intoxicated right? No handguns at USC, no sir. All those players are angel clean.

Not comparable situations or towns. South Bend is a blue-collar old manufacturing town with an elite university plopped right in the middle of it, leading to some pretty strained town-gown relations. Palo Alto is one of the nicest cities in America with a population that will typically be less resentful towards students and Columbus revolves around OSU. As for USC, LAPD has a lot more to worry about than college kids smoking weed.

 

[Legacy]

In addition to the extreme Indiana legal consequences that I posted (#436), this seems to me the University's Standards of Conduct they may face:

Standards of Conduct
and the Conduct Process

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I can't go back through this thread. I tried but I get a really bad headache, and nauseous as hell.

Can anyone answer these questions?

• When is the last football player been arrested for a n on-alcohol issue (e.g., fisticuffs or theft), while not being intoxicated?
• Has there been any changes in the charges in either instance?
• Any charges dismissed?
• Any changes in charges?

Thanks for the info in advance; I keep hearing that Redfield was 'kicked out for weed and gun possession' but I don't thing gun charges have been upped or all other defendants have had charges dismissed. Maybe I missed . . . .

 

[DCirishfan]

I can't go back through this thread. I tried but I get a really bad headache, and nauseous as hell.

Can anyone answer these questions?

• When is the last football player been arrested for a n on-alcohol issue (e.g., fisticuffs or theft), while not being intoxicated?
• Has there been any changes in the charges in either instance?
• Any charges dismissed?
• Any changes in charges?

Thanks for the info in advance; I keep hearing that Redfield was 'kicked out for weed and gun possession' but I don't thing gun charges have been upped or all other defendants have had charges dismissed. Maybe I missed . . . .

Didnt tommy rees have an incident with punching a cop ?

 

[NDdomer2]

Didnt tommy rees have an incident with punching a cop ?

he was drinking too tho right? i think bogs is trying to point out that rarely if never does someone get arrested that isnt drunk/drinking.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

The 574 isn't just South Bend



OSCEOLA Rocks!!!!!!!

Where my Elkhart people at?!

 

[koonja]

Wilfong 'what I'm hearing' so TIFWIW.

Expectations - He thinks it'll be a ton of community service for the 4, along with whatever legal issues come. Thinks all 4 COULD play vs. Texas.

His opinion - He thinks they've suffered enough, and it's time to move on.

 

[NDgradstudent]

What gets me is the whole policing situation around SB. For a rathole town that exists only because of the college, it seems the police seem to cash in on arresting ND players pretty frequently. When is the last time you saw a Stanford player in trouble? Now are Stanford players better people or do the area law enforcement just go easier on them? Im guessing no one at OSU ever does weed or drive intoxicated right? No handguns at USC, no sir. All those players are angel clean.

OSU players have had trouble with the cops. Stanford players may not be better people, but they seem to misbehave less. We're asking for a minimum level of self-control and intelligence. If you can't exhibit that, go play somewhere else.

I've lived in SB for several years and the only trouble I've had is with a speeding ticket. Don't break the law and there is no problem.

 

[Meatloaf]

Wilfong 'what I'm hearing' so TIFWIW.

Expectations - He thinks it'll be a ton of community service for the 4, along with whatever legal issues come. Thinks all 4 COULD play vs. Texas.

His opinion - He thinks they've suffered enough, and it's time to move on.

When I was a member there, I saw plenty of Loy and Wiltfong feeding people what they wanted to hear with no concrete facts to back it up. Given how ND's administration goes about punishing students I would take this with a massive grain of salt.

 

[STLDomer]

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Nick Saban got rid of a guard...because Alabama is deep at guard. BK got rid of our starting safety...because ND is deep at safety? Or something? I know Cowherd has been fawning over USC a bit since moving his show to L.A., which is fine -we all have to put food on the table- but this is not even an attempt at a serious argument.

I like Whitlock but I don't think anybody was thinking about Chicago's murder rate here in SB. It's not that close to Chicago.

Implied no one would get rid of their QB at the end. Umm yeah well we did that.

 

[connor_in]

I can't go back through this thread. I tried but I get a really bad headache, and nauseous as hell.

Can anyone answer these questions?

• When is the last football player been arrested for a n on-alcohol issue (e.g., fisticuffs or theft), while not being intoxicated?
• Has there been any changes in the charges in either instance?
• Any charges dismissed?
• Any changes in charges?

Thanks for the info in advance; I keep hearing that Redfield was 'kicked out for weed and gun possession' but I don't thing gun charges have been upped or all other defendants have had charges dismissed. Maybe I missed . . . .

I think you need to check your home for black mold and radon gas

 

[AlabamaDuck]

Gun

Gun

If this gun charge sticks with Redfield, he can kiss his fbi aspirations good bye

Don`t blame Redfield, It was the guns fault.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

he was drinking too tho right? i think bogs is trying to point out that rarely if never does someone get arrested that isnt drunk/drinking.

As opposed to schools with drug dealers arrested (on team, Alabama 2014?) or the incredible number of sexual assault, domestic violence cases, (Baylor OKie, Criminole State, and 40% of the Power 5.)

My point is perfectly illustrated with Tommy. He started running, and was so slow that the cop caught up with him. When he realized he wasn't getting away, he turned toward the cop, and the cop who was on a mission, and a dangerous trajectory, ran into him.

I believe this is what happened with Tommy : A) That will never be words written by an arresting officer; and B) There has never been paperwork filled out by a policeman acknowledging his culpability in a situation. It is always the alleged perp.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think you need to check your home for black mold and radon gas

You been over, and eating beans, cold, out of the cupboard again?


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[IrishBroker]

As opposed to schools with drug dealers arrested (on team, Alabama 2014?) or the incredible number of sexual assault, domestic violence cases, (Baylor OKie, Criminole State, and 40% of the Power 5.)

My point is perfectly illustrated with Tommy. He started running, and was so slow that the cop caught up with him. When he realized he wasn't getting away, he turned toward the cop, and the cop who was on a mission, and a dangerous trajectory, ran into him.

I believe this is what happened with Tommy : A) That will never be words written by an arresting officer; and B) There has never been paperwork filled out by a policeman acknowledging his culpability in a situation. It is always the alleged perp.

With all due respect...when you run from the cops after they tell you to stop, it is always the alleged perps fault.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

With all due respect...when you run from the cops after they tell you to stop, it is always the alleged perps fault.

Even if you are running for your life?

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Not that Knepper was actually using a firehose or an attack dog.

But it seems to me that a good defense attorney can put Knepper and his methods on trial, and with no tape, or witness statements obtained that night by the police, a typical jury may well believe that Devin Butler was in the frame of mind (within an instant of the police jumping in) that his life was in danger. Especially if he knew he was just breaking up a fight.

 

[IrishBroker]

Even if you are running for your life?

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Not that Knepper was actually using a firehose or an attack dog.

But it seems to me that a good defense attorney can put Knepper and his methods on trial, and with no tape, or witness statements obtained that night by the police, a typical jury may well believe that Devin Butler was in the frame of mind (within an instant of the police jumping in) that his life was in danger. Especially if he knew he was just breaking up a fight.

Horrible comparison...But I know what you were attempting to do.


My point was that if you run from the cops, after being told to stop, and especially if you are in the process or have committed a crime, you kinda got what is coming to you if it ends badly.

And I don't believe for one min that a jury is going to give Butler, a college football player, the benefit of the doubt as far as "life in danger" being as he was drunk and emotional (as Butler said)

And does anyone know how big the officer is? That also comes into play....if Butler towers over this guy, good luck proving that Butler was the one in danger. Its all about perspective.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Horrible comparison...But I know what you were attempting to do.

. . . .

So then, why was it a horrible comparison?

You got what I intended. And could distinguish the message from the hyperbole, to boot!

It's Saul Goodman. Wonder what he would say?