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[Rogue219]

So Barcelona want to sell Coutinho for $99M so they don't lose money on his transfer. They still owe Liverpool $93M of the $135M sale fee from when he moved.

I wonder how Barca could solve this problem?

Liverpool still needs a number 10, and Nebil Fekir isn't walking through that door anytime soon.

 

[GowerND11]

Leicester hasn't had to dance on the razor blade of relegation the way Southampton has recently, though. They're more of a mid table kind of club.

Van Dijk, Lovern, Lallana and Mane are all Southampton guys. Where'd that money go?

You're very right. However, that shift for Southampton has really only happened the last two years. Also, weren't they beset with injuries as well? You could go back further though too. Here is an impressive XI they could have. I would like to know, like you, where that money went...

 

[notredomer23]

Paxton Pomykal likely leaving FC Dallas for Serie A and Aaron Long to leave RBNJ for Southampton. Good to see MLS becoming a development league

 

[notredomer23]

https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1151924331712319490?s=20

 

[ACamp1900]

https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1151924331712319490?s=20

Ha, reminds me of an Englishman here in El Paso I've run into at bars around town. He's a huge Newcastle fan (he's from Newcastle) and he talks up the Sun Bowl and Arlington Stadium and the local triple A ball park as if they are the greatest stadiums on earth. He's stated how not a single European ground, anywhere, not Nu Camp, Allianz Arena or anything can compare to our stadiums (he cites the freaking Sun Bowl guys)... I'm sitting there like, this dude would faint if he toured our best facilities....

 

[Rogue219]

I'd run through a brick wall for Jurgen Klopp.

" I’d love to have studied here. I’m not sure what.”

Brilliant.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Paxton Pomykal likely leaving FC Dallas for Serie A and Aaron Long to leave RBNJ for Southampton. Good to see MLS becoming a development league

Would have to think Paxton would have difficulty getting a passport to play in Italy at the young age of 19, and with no national team appearances...but honestly that is just a guess. Germany or Netherlands always seem like a more realistic situation for our young promising players.

Honestly, I think there has only been about 4 "American" players to ever play in Serie A. It is incredibly rare.

 

[notredomer23]

Would have to think Paxton would have difficulty getting a passport to play in Italy at the young age of 19, and with no national team appearances...but honestly that is just a guess. Germany or Netherlands always seem like a more realistic situation for our young promising players.

Honestly, I think there has only been about 4 "American" players to ever play in Serie A. It is incredibly rare.

Supposedly he can obtain a Czech passport.

I can't even think of any outside of Bradley, Lalas, and Perez. Who was the fourth?

 

[ACamp1900]

That’s what’s up LAFC, Zlatan dick for days!!! Suck on it.

 

[fightingirish26]

Supposedly he can obtain a Czech passport.

I can't even think of any outside of Bradley, Lalas, and Perez. Who was the fourth?

Rossi

 

[Rogue219]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0Hb3q2d9A

A near leg breaker on a 18 year old academy player in a pre season friendly being playing in an American baseball stadium. Who does this?

 

[ACamp1900]

What a crock of crap... hate seeing that.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Milner is 33. 😳💪 <a href="https://t.co/9X2GeEs5Oe">pic.twitter.com/9X2GeEs5Oe</a></p>— B/R Football (@brfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1151467715917426688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Paging Koon.

 

[ACamp1900]

Have fun everyone:

 

[NorthDakota]

Have fun everyone:

That thing is idiotic

 

[notredomer23]

Nothing like breaking Pique's ankles

 

[ACamp1900]

That image still hurts my heart...

 

[notredomer23]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Christian Pulisic vs. Pique <a href="https://t.co/RXEQAbE5oi">pic.twitter.com/RXEQAbE5oi</a></p>— USMNT Only (@usmntonly) <a href="https://twitter.com/usmntonly/status/1153741644413493248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can watch this all day. Pique absolutely toasted by Puli.

 

[ACamp1900]

Everyone is wigging out over Celtics new pink third alt jersey but this is apparently their new standard and it’s amazing imo... it’s totally a Celtic jersey but uniquely done,... love only using green throughout. If anyone can take a moment to help me embed I’d appreciate it. On my phone,...

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=024b3ffbb11c276297ab298d4d02583d&oe=5DA9DA96

 

[IrishLion]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shunsuke Nakamura signed for Celtic on this day in 2005. Great excuse to post this tbh: <a href="https://t.co/4WPk8l6ZBx">pic.twitter.com/4WPk8l6ZBx</a></p>— Elliot Hackney (@ElliotHackney) <a href="https://twitter.com/ElliotHackney/status/1155792134487924736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ACamp1900]

One of the top five free kick takers I've ever seen...

 

[Irish#1]

Women's soccer filed suit over equal pay. Getting ready to go into arbitration to see if they can resolve this first. Might be hard to win as the facts don't bare that out. Women also get 401K and med insurance and the men don't IIRC.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-so...has-been-paid-more-than-mens-team-11564440487

 

[IrishLax]

Women's soccer filed suit over equal pay. Getting ready to go into arbitration to see if they can resolve this first. Might be hard to win as the facts don't bare that out. Women also get 401K and med insurance and the men don't IIRC.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-so...has-been-paid-more-than-mens-team-11564440487

The whole thing is a crock --
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US Soccer responds, for the first time, with what it says are independently audited finances that show that their women players actually do earn more than the men. <a href="https://t.co/ss2mfDGJYo">pic.twitter.com/ss2mfDGJYo</a></p>— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1156174540139110400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Even if they weren't getting paid "equally"... they're the ones that signed the CBA! They negotiated in good faith and agreed to the pay structure they're now suing about. They're not the first union to try to use the courts to get something they couldn't negotiate (see: NFL lockout), but people should've always been skeptical of their transparent PR campaign through the media because the facts did not actually support what they were saying. They cherry picked every data point, and their were a lot of fair articles on the topic that pointed that out.

 

[NorthDakota]

Every reasonable person knows this is a load of shit just like the mythical wage gap.

The women are very well compensated, they have their own league that is subsidized by the Federation too yeah? At some point they gotta be realistic about their worth.

 

[GowerND11]

Looks like Pepe to Arsenal is happening this week. Still need someone (or more) to sure up the back line though. Would love to see that Tierney deal finalize, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Irish#1]

The whole thing is a crock --
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US Soccer responds, for the first time, with what it says are independently audited finances that show that their women players actually do earn more than the men. <a href="https://t.co/ss2mfDGJYo">pic.twitter.com/ss2mfDGJYo</a></p>— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1156174540139110400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Even if they weren't getting paid "equally"... they're the ones that signed the CBA! They negotiated in good faith and agreed to the pay structure they're now suing about. They're not the first union to try to use the courts to get something they couldn't negotiate (see: NFL lockout), but people should've always been skeptical of their transparent PR campaign through the media because the facts did not actually support what they were saying. They cherry picked every data point, and their were a lot of fair articles on the topic that pointed that out.

They're counting on public pressure from all of the reactionaries we have today. Take something as gospel without checking the facts and claim victimhood.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Every reasonable person knows this is a load of shit just like the mythical wage gap.

The women are very well compensated, they have their own league that is subsidized by the Federation too yeah? At some point they gotta be realistic about their worth.

I like to think of myself as pretty reasonable and I think there are some real points of contention here. The conversation has gotten wildly out of hand from people who don't want to do any research (like with the actual wage gap), but there are still parts of it that are problems. All of those might be solved though because it sounds like they are thinking of separating the deals for advertising, sponsorship, kit, etc. between the two games. If that happens then we could get a clearer understanding of the revenue generation from each team in deals where that is currently unclear and given to the federation for them to decide.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

The whole thing is a crock --
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US Soccer responds, for the first time, with what it says are independently audited finances that show that their women players actually do earn more than the men. <a href="https://t.co/ss2mfDGJYo">pic.twitter.com/ss2mfDGJYo</a></p>— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1156174540139110400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Even if they weren't getting paid "equally"... they're the ones that signed the CBA! They negotiated in good faith and agreed to the pay structure they're now suing about. They're not the first union to try to use the courts to get something they couldn't negotiate (see: NFL lockout), but people should've always been skeptical of their transparent PR campaign through the media because the facts did not actually support what they were saying. They cherry picked every data point, and their were a lot of fair articles on the topic that pointed that out.

Yeah, US Soccer is a great, unbiased third party in the lawsuit of the the women's team against US Soccer.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah, US Soccer is a great, unbiased third party in the lawsuit of the the women's team against US Soccer.

Numbers are numbers, and these have been independently audited. There have also been quite a few fair articles in recent years about this, albeit no one had a complete set of audited books.

 

[Irish#1]

I like to think of myself as pretty reasonable and I think there are some real points of contention here. The conversation has gotten wildly out of hand from people who don't want to do any research (like with the actual wage gap), but there are still parts of it that are problems. All of those might be solved though because it sounds like they are thinking of separating the deals for advertising, sponsorship, kit, etc. between the two games. If that happens then we could get a clearer understanding of the revenue generation from each team in deals where that is currently unclear and given to the federation for them to decide.

We all know that in sports pay is determined by revenue generated. Revenue generated is determined by attendance and sponsors pay more for teams that have higher attendance and are more popular. Women's soccer doesn't want that because they won't be able to justify their demands when it's pointed out the men's game generates a lot more money than the women's.

You can't equate equal pay in sports to equal pay in business.