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I know this, since FFP has been a thing the number of teams that can truly compete for major titles in Europe has been shrinking and becoming more exclusive. It was sold as having the exact opposite effect.

Right. Because only those clubs that bring in the most revenue are allowed to most likely afford a large signing (duh!). Hence, the rich get richer. Should work for Arsenal since our fans apparently pay more than any others in the PL to attend games...

It's also something that will cause teams that were once great, but fall on hard times, to have an even more difficult time getting back.
 

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Right. Because only those clubs that bring in the most revenue are allowed to most likely afford a large signing (duh!). Hence, the rich get richer. Should work for Arsenal since our fans apparently pay more than any others in the PL to attend games...

It's also something that will cause teams that were once great, but fall on hard times, to have an even more difficult time getting back.




EXACTLY!!!! I just feel like its making it super hard to be a fan if you're not a fan of the top 6 teams in Europe


(The Neymar to PSG thing is one of the more RIDICULOUS things I've ever seen!)
 

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PSG actually sold $100 million worth of players this year (Spurs swooped in for a pair of quality guys thank you very much) which is normally good business.

But the Neymar deal still has them $170 million in the hole AND the loan-to-buy fee for Mbappe is supposed to be $150 million or more come June.
 

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PSG actually sold $100 million worth of players this year (Spurs swooped in for a pair of quality guys thank you very much) which is normally good business.

But the Neymar deal still has them $170 million in the hole AND the loan-to-buy fee for Mbappe is supposed to be $150 million or more come June.


Absolute MERDA!
 

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I admittedly haven't watched Auba more than maybe 6 or 7 times..am I missing something? He is obviously very fast and he's not a bad player, but I don't really see the type of quality that is needed to bring Arsenal up to speed with the rest of the big 6.

He's got a great goal-scoring record, but you make a fair point. Is he really what Arsenal need? I'm not sure he is. They already have quality up front. It's early to give up on Lacazette, and I think of Auba as a player who duplicates him.

The reaction to the signing is probably out of proportion to its importance to Arsenal's season--which is not at all unique to Arsenal. The whole world has gone crazy over transfers. They are almost more important than the games, as Rory Smith convincingly argues, using Arsenal and Auba as a case in point:

On Tuesday evening, Arsenal suffered another one of those indignities that tend to pockmark its seasons. This time, the humiliation came in the driving rain of South Wales and at the hands of Swansea City: facing a team at the bottom of the Premier League table, Arsenal dominated the game, monopolized possession and then went and lost anyway, 3-1.

For Arsenal’s fans, these defeats have become wearily familiar in the last decade or so, as Arsène Wenger’s two-decade reign at the club has drifted into a sort of managed decline. They have turned Arsenal into a place hard-wired to treat every disappointment as an existential crisis.

The reaction, now, is so habitual that it is almost comforting, one of the few fixed points in soccer’s ever-changing landscape. There are the calls for Wenger to abandon — or be relieved of — his post with immediate effect. There are the videos, drawn from Arsenal’s compelling YouTube fan channels, of despair and rage, going viral. There are the fuming calls to phone-in programs, the cascade of former players bemoaning a great institution on its knees. Occasionally, when things get really bad, there are light aircraft.

Tuesday should have been a classic of the genre. Losing at Swansea in any circumstance, for a club of Arsenal’s ambition, would be a setback. Given that Arsenal has now won only three of its last 11 Premier League games, and that it sits 8 points behind Chelsea for the fourth, and final, Champions League spot for next season — the bare minimum requirement for a passable campaign, by Wenger’s own estimation — this defeat qualified as indicative of a deep-rooted problem.

Mesut Özil signed a new contract with Arsenal this week, but a loss in the rain at Swansea on Tuesday dampened the mood around the club — at least for a few hours.

And yet, by Wednesday morning, none of it had materialized. There were no grumblings of mutiny, no furious videos racking up the retweets, no flood of thinkpieces about where it has all gone wrong, no rending of garments or gnashing of teeth.

Instead, the mood around Arsenal was jubilant, even optimistic. Piers Morgan, the one-time conqueror of Gene Simmons and Stephen Baldwin in “The Celebrity Apprentice,” has long since appointed himself as spokesman for the most disgruntled faction of Arsenal’s fan base.

Last week, he presented Donald J. Trump with an Arsenal jersey at the end of his television interview with the American president in Davos, Switzerland, and implored him to replace Wenger. (To be clear: Morgan is not involved in Arsenal’s staffing decisions.) On Wednesday, though, even he seemed uncharacteristically buoyant.

The reason for Arsenal’s good cheer, of course, was that at 11 a.m. Wednesday, the club had confirmed the $78 million signing of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from Borussia Dortmund.

Aubameyang, a 28-year-old striker, has never kicked a ball for Arsenal. His arrival does not change the gap with Chelsea. A rational analysis might suggest there are other areas of Arsenal’s team in more immediate need of reinforcement. And he left his previous club under something of a cloud after a number of disciplinary transgressions.

None of that mattered, however. Nor did the dispiriting defeat on Tuesday night, or the distance between Arsenal and its supposed rivals for a place in the Premier League’s top four.

There can scarcely have been a starker example of the restorative effect of a transfer, the palliative power of cold, hard cash, than seeing one hyper-stylized introductory video — Aubameyang shot in silhouette, a little strobe lighting, a bespoke hashtag — uniting Arsenal’s perpetually warring fan base immediately after an embarrassing defeat.

It is neither a profound nor an original observation to suggest that there has been, in the last 10 years or so, a seismic shift in significance away from what happens in full view on the field toward what happens in the smoke and mirrors of the transfer market.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/sports/soccer/arsenal-aubameyang-transfer.html?smid=tw-share
 
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He's got a great goal-scoring record, but you make a fair point. Is he really what Arsenal need? I'm not sure he is. They already have quality up front. It's early to give up on Lacazette, and I think of Auba as a player who duplicates him.

The reaction to the signing is probably out of proportion to its importance to Arsenal's season--which is not at all unique to Arsenal. The whole world has gone crazy over transfers. They are almost more important than the games, as Rory Smith convincingly argues, using Arsenal and Auba as a case in point:



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/sports/soccer/arsenal-aubameyang-transfer.html?smid=tw-share

I had no idea Auba was 28. I would have guessed 24.
 

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Piers Morgan what a prick

The biggest reason for my hatred of Arsenal. Ozil's face a close second. I've never liked Piers Morgan, even before he crawled up Trump's ass. He swore that if Liverpool finished ahead of Arsenal last year he'd leave Twitter for ever. Last I checked fourth is higher than fifth. He's still out there Tweeting away. Prick, indeed.

Tony Henry: West Ham sack head of recruitment over African player comments - BBC Sport

And in other news at West Ham. I suppose no European or South American players have ever caused "mayhem" before.
 

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I absolutely adore Mesut Ozil. My second favorite German player after Thomas Muller.
 

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So how much money do you think the assistant referee bet against Pool today? Dude needs to be fired. Clearly can't do his job.

Two dives for Tottenham get penalties, one of the penalties he's offsides, another Tottenham dive in the box gets called for simulation. I'm so livid right now. This is nonsense. That is 3 points for Pool.

Salah is going to win player of the year.
 
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Draw was a fair result. COYS.

Yes and no. When has fairness had anything to do with soccer result. I mean Tottenham played well and all, but the refs robbed that game. First penalty, there was offside and Karius didn't even touch Kane at all no matter what that commentator says. Second penalty, I mean there was really not much there. Anyways, it is what it is. Fun game to watch.
 

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Yes and no. When has fairness had anything to do with soccer result. I mean Tottenham played well and all, but the refs robbed that game. First penalty, there was offside and Karius didn't even touch Kane at all no matter what that commentator says. Second penalty, I mean there was really not much there. Anyways, it is what it is. Fun game to watch.

Right? All this encourages is more of that type of behavior. "But we played well enough to deserve a point" is trash.
 

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Right? All this encourages is more of that type of behavior. "But we played well enough to deserve a point" is trash.

A drastic counter measure would be to give penalties the other way when caught faking. That would probably solve the problem haha.
 

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Yes and no. When has fairness had anything to do with soccer result. I mean Tottenham played well and all, but the refs robbed that game. First penalty, there was offside and Karius didn't even touch Kane at all no matter what that commentator says. Second penalty, I mean there was really not much there. Anyways, it is what it is. Fun game to watch.

Kane didn't score the first penalty, so it's irrelevant. Second one was a soft penalty, for sure. But, Spurs controlled the game, quite strongly in the 2nd half too.
 

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Kane didn't score the first penalty, so it's irrelevant. Second one was a soft penalty, for sure. But, Spurs controlled the game, quite strongly in the 2nd half too.

They controlled the game in the second half only because Liverpool felt content to defend. One could argue that Liverpool actually had more quality chances than Tottenham did. Liverpool fans know all too well that possession is not necessarily equal to result. That's the way the game goes... Sometime you let the other team control the play, because it doesn't matter if they can't score.
 

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They controlled the game in the second half only because Liverpool felt content to defend. One could argue that Liverpool actually had more quality chances than Tottenham did. Liverpool fans know all too well that possession is not necessarily equal to result. That's the way the game goes... Sometime you let the other team control the play, because it doesn't matter if they can't score.

Not sure xG backs up Liverpool having more quality chances. It was Salah's 2 goals and little, little else. Spurs dominated possession, 4 more shots, twice as many shots on goal, 4 more corners, with 3 high quality chances that didn't find the back of the net.

Klopp must've been scarred from the previous meeting when Liverpool were so open (Spurs were +2.4 in xG!!) in the back. It's tempting to say today 'worked' for Liverpool but I'm not sure such an anti-Klopp way of playing is to be commended when Spurs were knocking on the door for such a long time.
 

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Salah's goal in extra time was sublime. That's the kind of goal you see Messi score watching highlights on Sunday night.

Very poor officiating, which has become sadly common in England as of late. I never really cared much for Lamela to begin with, so all that really did was reinforce my dislike of the guy. Dele Ali is a punk too. He was booked for simulation earlier in the match. I think it speaks to the kind of match they played, and I don't know if that's quite the kind of team they are, but it was hard to say a draw was fair based on how that match arrived at that point. Spurs never had a lead.

Wanyama's rocket was also lost in all of the extras.
 

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Yo Acamp, FC Cincinnati redesigned their kits just for you, after hearing your complaints about them being a knock-off USA kit.

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Love this one. May have to get it.

The white is definitely amazing. Not sure if I can pull off a white jersey though lol

I like the blue, minus the white collar and the orange logo over the orange hoop/diamonds.

I think they could've gone with an orange collar, and then altered the crown logo to be primarily white instead.

Gonna look past it and drop the cash on a home kit anyway, though.
 

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Regardless of "justice", "fair play", "deserved result" and that cant, the secondary referee inserted himself into the game when he clearly didn't belong there --- Mustoe and Earle said the same thing and I really respect both those guys. That referee should be downgraded to the much lower levels of the league if he is to keep a professional job at all.

As to the second call (where he inserted himself into the play), VVD is clearly sensing at the very end of that play the presence of the Tottenham player and is pulling off the contact leaving almost none at all. That ref, watching from a "mile" away, chose to stop play for a mis-seen hunch and become the game's focus point --- BAD refereeing behavior. Why that head ref was convinced by him when he himself saw nothing to call baffles me as well. ... and it baffled Mustoe and Earle. (I believe that this head ref has been involved with controversy before, and against Liverpool.) I actually thought that Liverpool played brilliant defense (against their typical nature) and, with the exception of Salah and occasionally Robertson, played pedestrian offense (also against their nature.) Tottenham looked really good in the second half (not at all in the first half) and deserves some applause for their "quality" there --- they did not "deserve" the tie.
 
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Salah's goal in extra time was sublime. That's the kind of goal you see Messi score watching highlights on Sunday night.

Very poor officiating, which has become sadly common in England as of late. I never really cared much for Lamela to begin with, so all that really did was reinforce my dislike of the guy. Dele Ali is a punk too. He was booked for simulation earlier in the match. I think it speaks to the kind of match they played, and I don't know if that's quite the kind of team they are, but it was hard to say a draw was fair based on how that match arrived at that point. Spurs never had a lead.

Wanyama's rocket was also lost in all of the extras.

Maybe lost on you.

Dele needs to be punished for his dive (not his first this year). There is a camp that want to see him moved because he will command a high fee. His antics are wearing thin.

Lamela's play was smart. Cannot argue that VVD didn't take a good swing that connected with EL.

As far for "the match they played"... doesn't make too much sense. Spurs by all metrics had a better match. Liverpool certainly bossed the better part of the first half but didn't take their chances; Spurs didn't take theirs as well.

Questionable officiating is a headline again and there needs to be a fix. I do dislike VAR though. Look what it has done to American Football.
 

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Yo Acamp, FC Cincinnati redesigned their kits just for you, after hearing your complaints about them being a knock-off USA kit.

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NICE!.. Def an upgrade, those creamsicle ones were terrible. I would agree the whites are a huge upgrade, but so are the hooped ones.

Possibly dumb question, if CFC gets the invite like we all kind of expect, when will they start play?? Also, are they planning on staying at Nippert long term? It seems to be a real unique stadium that adds to the dynamic in a positive way but that's from a fan perspective, the league offices may want some shiny new toy or some such.
 
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I'm still not over the second penalty in Liverpool/Spurs.

This is from the FA website:

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
charges
jumps at
kicks or attempts to kick
pushes
strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
tackles or challenges
trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.

Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:
handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within their penalty area)
holds an opponent
impedes an opponent with contact
spits at an opponent

There was nothing careless about VVD's attempt to kick the ball. He had no idea Lamela was there. In fact, when VVD looked up for the ball, Lamela WASN'T there; Lamela initiated the contact by sliding into the path of VVD's leg after VVD had already started to watch the path of the ball.

I keep hearing and reading comments in the media/social media that it doesn't matter whether VVD knew that Lamela was there or should have known, but it absolutely does. It bears on the question of whether the kick was made at least carelessly. I don't see how you can watch that back and think there was carelessness there by VVD. Contact alone is not a foul; it's carelessness that makes it a foul, and in this case there was none.

Still, great game to watch, and a draw is still a better result for LFC, who have a two-point lead on Spurs and an easier run-in, at least in terms of top 6 opponents.

The North London Derby next week should be an absolute doozy. I can't wait. Arsenal will be brimming with confidence.
 
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Regardless of "justice", "fair play", "deserved result" and that cant, the secondary referee inserted himself into the game when he clearly didn't belong there --- Mustoe and Earle said the same thing and I really respect both those guys. That referee should be downgraded to the much lower levels of the league if he is to keep a professional job at all.

As to the second call (where he inserted himself into the play), VVD is clearly sensing the presence of the Tottenham player and is pulling off the contact leaving almost none at all. That ref, watching from a "mile" away, chose to stop play for a mis-seen hunch and become the game's focus point --- BAD refereeing behavior. Why that head ref was convinced by him when he himself saw nothing to call baffles me as well. ... and it baffled Mustoe and Earle. (I believe that this head ref has been involved with controversy before, and against Liverpool.) I actually thought that Liverpool played brilliant defense (against their typical nature) and, with the exception of Salah and occasionally Robertson, played pedestrian offense (also against their nature.) Tottenham looked really good in the second half (not at all in the first half) and deserves some applause for their "quality" there --- they did not "deserve" the tie.

I agree, and it worries me a bit as a Liverpool fan that Liverpool only seem able to reliably create good chances by counter-pressing to force/capitalize on opponents' mistakes. We aren't creating enough good chances with pure attacking play; the front 3 looked out of sync for most of the day on Sunday, as they frequently do. Obviously Firmino and Salah have been great individually, but Mane has really not been the player we remember from last year, and as a unit their play has been a little disjointed. That's something we really have to solve.

Hendo was great on Sunday. I never heard why he had to come off, but the midfield really suffered without him firing on all cylinders in the second half. Gini Wijnaldum works hard and covers lots of ground but tends to disappear for long stretches of matches.
 
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NICE!.. Def an upgrade, those creamsicle ones were terrible. I would agree the whites are a huge upgrade, but so are the hooped ones.

Possibly dumb question, if CFC gets the invite like we all kind of expect, when will they start play?? Also, are they planning on staying at Nippert long term? It seems to be a real unique stadium that adds to the dynamic in a positive way but that's from a fan perspective, the league offices may want some shiny new toy or some such.

Rumor on the street is that they'll start play in '19, since Nashville and Miami are '20. Cincinnati is MLS-ready, as the MLS has already approved Nippert as a temporary site, and they need a team for '19.

The problem is that Nippert is only a place-holder, and the MLS requires a soccer-specific stadium for new teams (I guess because of what's going on with New York). FCC doesn't control the full revenue stream at Nippert since it's owned by UC, and that's a big "must" in the eyes of the MLS. So the plan is that Cincy will play in Nippert for the '19 season, and possibly the '20 season, until the new stadium is built.

Part of the delay in Cincy's announcement *could* be the fact that the temporary use of Nippert for MLS games requires a whole new set of contracts and agreements between FCC, UC, and MLS... and also all of the sponsors that FCC uses on gameday.

So what was a smooth, quick process for Nashville is a lot more bumpy for FCC, simply because FCC already had a bunch of stuff in writing that now needs to be amended for a new league. A lot more lawyer work and a lot more time consuming, whereas Nashville was essentially a blank slate.
 

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Rumor on the street is that they'll start play in '19, since Nashville and Miami are '20. Cincinnati is MLS-ready, as the MLS has already approved Nippert as a temporary site, and they need a team for '19.

The problem is that Nippert is only a place-holder, and the MLS requires a soccer-specific stadium for new teams (I guess because of what's going on with New York). FCC doesn't control the full revenue stream at Nippert since it's owned by UC, and that's a big "must" in the eyes of the MLS. So the plan is that Cincy will play in Nippert for the '19 season, and possibly the '20 season, until the new stadium is built.

Part of the delay in Cincy's announcement *could* be the fact that the temporary use of Nippert for MLS games requires a whole new set of contracts and agreements between FCC, UC, and MLS... and also all of the sponsors that FCC uses on gameday.

So what was a smooth, quick process for Nashville is a lot more bumpy for FCC, simply because FCC already had a bunch of stuff in writing that now needs to be amended for a new league. A lot more lawyer work and a lot more time consuming, whereas Nashville was essentially a blank slate.


Okay, thanks for the info... I hope whatever they do it has it's own feel to it and isn't some cookie cutter thing. I love Portland, KC and places like that, you KNOW you're watching a game from Portland just by the view of the stands and the atmosphere... Your boys SEEM to have that a bit with Nippert (At least from the little I've been able to see and watch). I hope they don't lose that for some Stub Hub Center Clone...
 
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