Dukes of Hazzard pulled from TV Land

[Irish YJ]

So what past books, movies, and other art are we planning on sealing away?

Don't forget that scumbag anti-woman Bennie Hill
Not to mention all things John Wayne and Mel Gibson.
I'll really going to miss Bird on a Wire reruns. That Goldie upskirt was golden as a kid.

 

[Irish YJ]

This is what happens when I am stuck for 10 hours in a hotel room with my children. Tomorrow the wife can not take the car with her. Ugh.

Had a rough week myself,,, no sleep and been away from the GF for a week and a half. I'm surprised I'm not pulling a Jughed

 

[domerfreak]

That is a big simplification.

1. It was a battle flag used by an army fighting at least partially for slavery.
2. The flag was added to the Confederate States flag in 1863, so yeah it is more than just a battle flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

Maybe it is time for you to do your homework.

ETA: Just for the record, I have already said that they shouldn't pull the show (unless they are going to put MASH on in its place, then Hell yes please pull it, love me some MASH).

This is exactly my point. You are relating the civil war to slavery and it had nothing to with slavery. Black southern folks fought for the confederate army because they believed in their southern way of life and fought for their government for succession from the north government. The north made huge profits selling slaves to the south not the other way around.
Also, keep in mind the civil war started in 1862 a year before the confederate flag was added as a state flag. One more thing id like to point out is General Robert E Lee of the confederate army freed his inherited slaves before the end of 1862. So a guy who frees slaves that he didn’t purchase is going to lead an army to continue slavery? Not likely. The proclamation of emancipation wasn’t issued until the third year of the war. Even then it only freed the slaves of the south and not the north. Listening to the talking heads on tv and a quick google search isn’t doing your homework.

 

[yankeehater]

Since when is someone being offended a reason to ban something?

 

[Cackalacky]

 

[Irish YJ]

Since when is someone being offended a reason to ban something?

It is OK to ban something so long as the offended is liberal. because it's best for everyone. conservatives though are no longer allowed to be offended because it's unfair to others that they are offended.

Buster, is that about right?

I keed

 

[Cackalacky]

This is exactly my point. You are relating the civil war to slavery and it had nothing to with slavery. Black southern folks fought for the confederate army because they believed in their southern way of life and fought for their government for succession from the north government. The north made huge profits selling slaves to the south not the other way around.
Also, keep in mind the civil war started in 1862 a year before the confederate flag was added as a state flag. One more thing id like to point out is General Robert E Lee of the confederate army freed his inherited slaves before the end of 1862. So a guy who frees slaves that he didn’t purchase is going to lead an army to continue slavery? Not likely. The proclamation of emancipation wasn’t issued until the third year of the war. Even then it only freed the slaves of the south and not the north. Listening to the talking heads on tv and a quick google search isn’t doing your homework.

I have to give you credit man. You managed to completely rewrite over 300 years of history. Good thing we have the Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens to set set the record straight:

“But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science.”

It's bullshit to claim that blacks actively fought for the confederacy. There are very few documented black soldiers and most who did "serve" were doing so to serve the owners as teamsters, cooks, laborers etc. because you know....they were slaves.

The slave trade was a very lucrative export import business right up until it was outlawed and with capitalism being a very amoral operation it should not be shocking to believe that the Notth with its large fleets would be the ones providing said economic resources with transportation. Slavery was a blight on this whole country.

The Emancipation Proclamation only applied to those slave states in open rebellion with the Union. It was necessarily crafted this way to be used as an end game war tactic. It was by design. Considering the Northern States were Free States and that most for the legal problems leading up to the Civil War hinged on adding Free versus Slave territories there was a clearly defined politcal divide whether or not portions of the citizenry accepted it or not.

I am it sure what history book you were taught. Can you provide that to me. I would love to read the document that provided you with these statements.

 

[alohagoirish]

Removing the C flag from various statehouse grounds or removing it from state flags is one thing.

Removing the dukes of hazard is simply ridiculous.

Bill Maher had an interesting comment on one of his last shows. Apparently he was having issues , too many issues with his audience , they were way too often oooing and ahhhing about this joke or that. According to Maher they have been inviting and hand selecting audiences from this liberal group or that...they became so politically correct it was ruining too many jokes so a few weeks ago they just opened up the show to anyone and gave up on stacking the audience and Bill was much happier with the results.

The politically correctness of many young liberals is just way over the top even for Maher who although very liberal featured too much objectionable material for the young libs by often insulting religion , islam and whatever else seemed to offend the sensibilities of the youngsters.

Now I am very far to the left ideologically but I just don't see political correctness run amok as much of a left wing exercise. It all too often simply acts as an insulation for much in this culture and other cultures that is simply bad news and deserving of taking critical shots!

 

[pkt77242]

This is exactly my point. You are relating the civil war to slavery and it had nothing to with slavery. Black southern folks fought for the confederate army because they believed in their southern way of life and fought for their government for succession from the north government. The north made huge profits selling slaves to the south not the other way around.
Also, keep in mind the civil war started in 1862 a year before the confederate flag was added as a state flag. One more thing id like to point out is General Robert E Lee of the confederate army freed his inherited slaves before the end of 1862. So a guy who frees slaves that he didn’t purchase is going to lead an army to continue slavery? Not likely. The proclamation of emancipation wasn’t issued until the third year of the war. Even then it only freed the slaves of the south and not the north. Listening to the talking heads on tv and a quick google search isn’t doing your homework.

You are wrong. If you think that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery there is no point in discussing this with you. Do you even believe what you are saying? LOL. If I wasn't on my phone I would expand more but here is a quick look at my thoughts.

Generals fought for their home states not for slavery. The South seceded partly/mostly because of slavery. Go look at the secession documents themselves, most list slavery within the first few lines.
2. I am not arguing that the Union was right and Just.
3. If you truly believe that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
4. The Southern way of life involved slavery and couldn't exist without slavery (at that time).
5. Do you know how many black soldiers fought for the South? Not many and it is believed that they had to be offered freedom (emancipation) to make it happen.

 

[IrishLax]

I have to give you credit man. You managed to complete rewrite over 300 years of history. Good thing we have the Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens to set set the record straight:

And the Union was lead by President Abraham Lincoln who had such progressive and tolerant views towards blacks:

As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.

It's hard to parse quotes in context, though your larger point certainly stands.

The South was certainly fighting in large part for slavery, but from the Northern perspective the reason they went to war instead of just letting the South secede had almost nothing at all to do with freeing slaves or helping people of color. The eventual Emancipation Proclamation was nothing more than a tactical move to further destabilize the south... it didn't free slaves in the Union, just the Confederate States, and slaves in the Union wouldn't be freed until years later.

 

[domerfreak]

2 Million Bikers to DC
June 21 ·


STOP revisionist History! KNOW THE FACTS!

When history is distorted someone needs to re-post the FACTS!

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispell some of these rampant inaccuracies.

MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.

MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.
FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.

The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.

The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.

The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".
FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.
FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH - The South revered slavery.
FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.

FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.

MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.

 

[Cackalacky]

And the Union was lead by President Abraham Lincoln who had such progressive and tolerant views towards blacks:


It's hard to parse quotes in context, though your larger point certainly stands.

The South was certainly fighting in large part for slavery, but from the Northern perspective the reason they went to war instead of just letting the South secede had almost nothing at all to do with freeing slaves or helping people of color. The eventual Emancipation Proclamation was nothing more than a tactical move to further destabilize the south... it didn't free slaves in the Union, just the Confederate States, and slaves in the Union wouldn't be freed until years later.

I think I might have been editing my post while you posted this. I agree for sure that Lincoln and the Union still had unfavorable views on AA's but his claim was that it had nothing to do with slavery when we all know that the whole states rights thing was one based on free version slave territory admittance and also the economics of slavery. Not to mention the numerous mentions of slavery in the letters of secession. My quote from Stephens was just to emphasize that it was quite clearly the major reason for secession. The union obviously needed the Souths resources and markets too, so it was also necessary to them for economic reasons to preserve the nation. I know you know this , just clarifying.

 

[pkt77242]

2 Million Bikers to DC
June 21 ·


STOP revisionist History! KNOW THE FACTS!

When history is distorted someone needs to re-post the FACTS!

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispell some of these rampant inaccuracies.

MYTH - The War of 1861 - 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT - Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.

MYTH - Only Southerners owned slaves.
FACT - Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn't free his slaves earlier, Grant stated "Good help is so hard to come by these days."

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased - they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

Lastly, and most importantly, why did NORTHERN States outlaw slavery only AFTER the war was over? The so-called "Emancipation Proclamation" of Lincoln only gave freedom to slaves in the SOUTH! NOT in the North! This pecksniffery even went so far as to find the state of Delaware rejecting the 13th Amendment in December of 1865 and did not ratify it (13th Amendment / free the slaves) until 1901!

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
FACT - NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portugese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products madefrom raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
FACT - Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.

The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.

The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.

The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.

The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Stars & Bars".
FACT - A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the "Stars & Bars". The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the "Southern Cross".

MYTH - The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT - The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH - The United States Flag represented freedom.
FACT - No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH - Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
FACT - While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH - The South revered slavery.
FACT - A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH - The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
FACT - Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH - Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
FACT - Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.

Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH - The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.

FACT - Quite the contrary. These dispicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE - NOT HATE.

MYTH - The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
FACT - This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendents of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.

The SCV - Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK.

LOL. Do you actually believe most of this? You do realize that the SC is hardly an unbiased group right? I will post a rebuttal tomorrow. It is fair to say though that the main reason why we had a Civil War though not the only one) is because of slavery.

Are you trolling us?

ETA: Go read the Secession statements by the states. Mississippi and Georgia are particularly interesting, though S.C., Texas, etc. are good reading as well. Shockingly they spend a lot of time talking about slavery, and how the Northern States were not upholding their constitutional duties in relation to slavery. You might want to actually read some documents for yourself instead of trusting the SCV.

 

[domerfreak]

LOL. Do you actually believe most of this? You do realize that the SC is hardly an unbiased group right? I will post a rebuttal tomorrow. It is fair to say though that the main reason why we had a Civil War though not the only one) is because of slavery.

Are you trolling us?

ETA: Go read the Secession statements by the states. Mississippi and Georgia are particularly interesting, though S.C., Texas, etc. are good reading as well. Shockingly they spend a lot of time talking about slavery, and how the Northern States were not upholding their constitutional duties in relation to slavery. You might want to actually read some documents for yourself instead of trusting the SCV.

lets agree to disagree

 

[Blazers46]

You are wrong. If you think that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery there is no point in discussing this with you. Do you even believe what you are saying? LOL. If I wasn't on my phone I would expand more but here is a quick look at my thoughts.

Generals fought for their home states not for slavery. The South seceded partly/mostly because of slavery. Go look at the secession documents themselves, most list slavery within the first few lines.
2. I am not arguing that the Union was right and Just.
3. If you truly believe that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. 4. The Southern way of life involved slavery and couldn't exist without slavery (at that time).
5. Do you know how many black soldiers fought for the South? Not many and it is believed that they had to be offered freedom (emancipation) to make it happen.

Due to global warming I might inquire about this property.......

 

[ulukinatme]

There's some truth in what domerfreak wrote, but likely not all of it. I've read that Lincoln's feelings and thoughts on slavery were not always in the best interest of those he later emancipated. I've read that he often batted the idea back and force of abolishing slavery before he finally wrote his famous piece. I've also seen it said that the real reason he drafted the Emancipation Proclamation was to create a rallying cry and to put pressure on the South by trying to cut their labor force and encourage slaves to flee, thereby hurting the South's war effort. Then again, I'm still buzzed and none of this probably makes any sense. Still, there was no need to go after the Dukes of Hazzard, such a joke.

 

[kmoose]

Agree. I don't think this is a PC police issue. It's a revenue stream protection issue.

I think it would be interesting to see what the ratings say. Did these shows see sudden drops in their ratings, after the recent controversy? If not, then it is hard to justify economics as the reason.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Since when is someone being offended a reason to ban something?

What is being banned here?

 

[Irish#1]

Why do people believe myths about the Confederacy? Because our textbooks and monuments are wrong. - The Washington Post

An interesting article

I think a counter argument could easily be written. To me taking down monuments, rewriting books, banning the sale of flags is just a way to put the Civil War in a dark closet so no one has to be reminded of it and act like it never happened. I may be in the minority, but these symbols are a reminder of how far we have come. Like it or not, it's all part of our heritage. "To forget the past is to repeat it".

 

[Buster Bluth]

This is exactly my point. You are relating the civil war to slavery and it had nothing to with slavery. Black southern folks fought for the confederate army because they believed in their southern way of life and fought for their government for succession from the north government. The north made huge profits selling slaves to the south not the other way around.
Also, keep in mind the civil war started in 1862 a year before the confederate flag was added as a state flag. One more thing id like to point out is General Robert E Lee of the confederate army freed his inherited slaves before the end of 1862. So a guy who frees slaves that he didn’t purchase is going to lead an army to continue slavery? Not likely. The proclamation of emancipation wasn’t issued until the third year of the war. Even then it only freed the slaves of the south and not the north. Listening to the talking heads on tv and a quick google search isn’t doing your homework.

You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[BGIF]

Had a rough week myself,,, no sleep and been away from the GF for a week and a half. I'm surprised I'm not pulling a Jughed

Sooo, Jughed's problem was MSB?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Since when is someone being offended a reason to ban something?

In today's America, it depends who is offended.

 

[IrishInFl]

Looks like the Duke boys are in a heap of trouble!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

In today's America, it depends who is offended.

Again...what has been banned? The only thing actually being banned by a government is having the confederate battle flag above the state house. They aren't even banning the flag itself. You can still buy it, just not on Amazon. They made a business decision to stop selling it. You can still watch the Duke boys whenever you want. No one is seizing your copy of season 2.

You are free to criticize the decisions made by these entities. Fair game. Go after it. But nothing has been banned.

 

[ginman]

Couldn't Agree with this decision more!!!

I am tired of Hollywood portraying southerners as a bunch of dumb hicks!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Dukes of Hazzard pulled from TV Land

Couldn't Agree with this decision more!!!



I am tired of Hollywood portraying southerners as a bunch of dumb hicks!

Yet they will continue to air "Full House," which negatively portrays uncles as slacker comedians or musicians with incredible hair.

 

[GoIrish41]

Looks like the Duke boys are in a heap of trouble!

Perfect! I literally LOLed. Reps, sir.

 

[ACamp1900]

I can't believe TV Land is being this homophobic, why can't they just let Bo and Luke be happy??

 

[ginman]

Yet they will continue to air "Full House," which negatively portrays uncles as slacker comedians or musicians with incredible hair.

Agreed, although neither the comedian or musician had any talent, so cancelling the show could be considered a micro-aggression against someone or something, which shall not be tolerated!

 

[Irish YJ]

Sooo, Jughed's problem was MSB?

You're need to help me with MSB. Must be getting old. PM me if it can't be posted lol.

Looks like the Duke boys are in a heap of trouble!

reps

Couldn't Agree with this decision more!!!

I am tired of Hollywood portraying southerners as a bunch of dumb hicks!

WTF... Uncle Jessie was a very wise man. Also, did you get a look at the IQ on Daisy?

I can't believe TV Land is being this homophobic, why can't they just let Bo and Luke be happy??

New series. Dicks of Hazard. Libs will be happy with that one.