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I have no idea what this thread is about but BGIF started it, named dshans, so I figure while we have the "greybeards" assembled I will make a request. I was born in the spring of 89. The first Irish game in my lifetime was against UVA at Giants Stadium. Tell me a story of the first Irish game played with me in the world.
 
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Or maybe they can tells us about some of the great Irish players from the 50's and 60's.
 
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Kaneyoufeelit said:
I have no idea what this thread is about but BGIF started it, named dshans, so I figure while we have the "greybeards" assembled I will make a request. I was born in the spring of 89. The first Irish game in my lifetime was against UVA at Giants Stadium. Tell me a story of the first Irish game played with me in the world.
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I was at the Meadowlands that night in '89. I grew up about 10 minutes away. I got to see the game from the NJS&EA's Chairman's box (My brother's connection not mine). When the Chairman heard I had never met Lou, he arranged it. That was my highlight. If I knew about you then, I would have asked Lou to sign a hat for you, as well, as mine.

As for the game ALL ND.

UVA had a good team, they ended up in the Top 20 in both Final Polls that year but the Front Seven with Zorich and Bolcar ate the Cavs alive. When UVA tried to throw, it seemed Lyght and Company had almost as many INTs as Moore had completions. On offense Lou pounded about a dozen different RBs at UVA. When UVA crowded the line, Rice went over their heads to Rocket and Watters. ND was up by over 30 to zip at the half. Lou could have put up 60 but he cleared the bench in the 3rd quarter.

At least 25 maybe 30 Irish that played that night were eventually drafted by the NFL. The players were all Vinny Cerrato's, 4 classes worth. I would be hard pressed to put any of today's starting 22 on the two deep for that game. Jaylon would have the best shot and that would be a fight. Brindza would kick off (if he made the bus) but the rest of the kicking would be Hentrich's. None of the current backfield QB, RB, Slot would be better than 3rd team. The talent was that deep.


Reps Kaneyoufeelit, for making me re-feelit.

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bkess8 said:
Or maybe they can tells us about some of the great Irish players from the 50's and 60's.
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The Irish didn't lose a game until I was 4.

Hornung could do it all, run, pass, kickoff, XPs, and snare INTS of defense.

60 minute men.

I saw ND end OU's 47 game winning streak on TV in '57 and carry Terry Brennan off the field on the players shoulders. The next year he was fired.

From 1959 through 1963 the ND DEFENSE allowed more points each year than the offense scored.

I "watched" Lindsey Nelson.
 
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FIFY :laugh:
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Sorry, you'll have to try OMM, Irish1958, and one or two others. I only know those years from my dad's stories about when he was a lad listening to ND games sitting around his parent's dining room table. He would put the speaker of his crystal radio set into my grandmother's only crystal bowl (very shanty Irish folks) so they all could listen.

Don Criqui couldn't have gotten a job back in those days when listeners lived games through radio announcers.
 
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I've mentioned this many times on this board, but I really feel good about BK, because the similarities between him and Ara are too many to mention. The two that that really stick out to me are how BK is moving kids to new positions to get the best players on the field. Ara did that all the time, especially when it came to defensive backs. The second is their eye for talent. Huarte was the third string QB until Ara came and then he wins the Heisman.

Funny side note. Took my 11 year old grandson to his first ND game against UNC. On the way up, he says, "Grandpa, I didn't know Joe Montana played for Notre Dame!" Puts it all in perspective. lol
 
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I've always thought younger (~20 years). But he thought you might be older.
 
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BGIF is Older than I am.

Here's a random story: when I was a senior, and suffering with Joe Kuharich's inability to assess talent, the Notre Dame fans were in hysterical joy that Kuharich had recruited the Elephant Backfield --- so huge that no one would be able to stop us. It was going to be a return to paradise for as long as we had Paul Costa and Jim Snowdon at halfback and fullback, and Frank Budka at quarterback.

So, Budka/Costa/Snowdon came to save us. Budka was installed at Quarterback replacing the obviously incompetent Daryle Lamonica ... yep, you heard correctly. Lamonica, the veteran, was backup to Budka. Budka dazzled us by being intercepted EVERY SEVEN PASS ATTEMPTS that year. {Lamonica was picked once every 13}. The following season {"I gone"} some sanity was restored, Lamonica put up NFL numbers and Budka was fourth string.

Costa [6'6", 235] and Snowden [6'5",250] could not beat out Mike Lind or Angelo Dabiero [Angelo was one helluva football player at 5'8" max {I played BBall against him and I think he was closer to 5'6"} and 160 pounds]. Costa, a future all-star NFLer at TE caught one pass for minus nine yards. Ah, yes, salvation indeed. We went 5 and 5 with a great senior class [Nick Buoniconti's] and finished with a losing record for my four year stretch --- the second class in ND history to do so, I believe.

When Parseghian came in, these guys were still there as seniors. Ara looked them over and thought: you know, that guy Costa doesn't look like a running back to me, let's try him at tight end. Several seasons later, and NFL stardom for the Buffalo Bills, Big Paul became one of the first of Notre Dame's assembly line productions at "Tight End U".

Ara then looked at Snowden and said: You know that guy doesn't look like a running back either. Let's try him at Offensive Tackle. After a decade of starting for the Washington Redskins at OT, Snowden became an original "Hog".

Then he turned his eye on Budka. Now Frank Budka wasn't a terrible football player by a long shot, but Ara thought that we might do a little better. Buried on our roster was a young fellow named John Huarte. ... and the rest is history.

When you guys are whining and crying about Kelly, Longo, Heistand et al, reflect a bit on what bad coaching REALLY looks like, and do me a favor and zip it up.

Upon "retiring", Kuharich found his true calling --- and joined the NFL officials, where he was quite good.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
BGIF is Older than I am.

Here's a random story: when I was a senior, and suffering with Joe Kuharich's inability to assess talent, the Notre Dame fans were in hysterical joy that Kuharich had recruited the Elephant Backfield --- so huge that no one would be able to stop us. It was going to be a return to paradise for as long as we had Paul Costa and Jim Snowdon at halfback and fullback, and Frank Budka at quarterback.

So, Budka/Costa/Snowdon came to save us. Budka was installed at Quarterback replacing the obviously incompetent Daryle Lamonica ... yep, you heard correctly. Lamonica, the veteran, was backup to Budka. Budka dazzled us by being intercepted EVERY SEVEN PASS ATTEMPTS that year. {Lamonica was picked once every 13}. The following season {"I gone"} some sanity was restored, Lamonica put up NFL numbers and Budka was fourth string.

Costa [6'6", 235] and Snowden [6'5",250] could not beat out Mike Lind or Angelo Dabiero [Angelo was one helluva football player at 5'8" max {I played BBall against him and I think he was closer to 5'6"} and 160 pounds]. Costa, a future all-star NFLer at TE caught one pass for minus nine yards. Ah, yes, salvation indeed. We went 5 and 5 with a great senior class [Nick Buoniconti's] and finished with a losing record for my four year stretch --- the second class in ND history to do so, I believe.

When Parseghian came in, these guys were still there as seniors. Ara looked them over and thought: you know, that guy Costa doesn't look like a running back to me, let's try him at tight end. Several seasons later, and NFL stardom for the Buffalo Bills, Big Paul became one of the first of Notre Dame's assembly line productions at "Tight End U".

Ara then looked at Snowden and said: You know that guy doesn't look like a running back either. Let's try him at Offensive Tackle. After a decade of starting for the Washington Redskins at OT, Snowden became an original "Hog".

Then he turned his eye on Budka. Now Frank Budka wasn't a terrible football player by a long shot, but Ara thought that we might do a little better. Buried on our roster was a young fellow named John Huarte. ... and the rest is history.

When you guys are whining and crying about Kelly, Longo, Heistand et al, reflect a bit on what bad coaching REALLY looks like, and do me a favor and zip it up.

Upon "retiring", Kuharich found his true calling --- and joined the NFL officials, where he was quite good.
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Ara was very good at "thinking outside the box" before it became trendy.
 
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I don't normally do this; but since this is a thread for dshans:

Shouldn't the title read:

"dshans' Infinitely More Upbeat Thread"?
 
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Does this make things more upbeat now?
 
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Whiskeyjack said:
Can't bring myself to do that. It just doesn't look right.

Since this is a dshans thread... how about that Oxford Comma? I'm for it, personally.
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Does my preference count for anything? If so, I vote "dshans'."



And I still think that the Oxford Comma can, at times, be an unnecessary, awkward and cumbersome waste of a keystroke.
 
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Whiskeyjack said:
Can't bring myself to do that. It just doesn't look right.

Since this is a dshans thread... how about that Oxford Comma? I'm for it, personally.
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Haha, the way you feel about "dshans's" is exactly how I feel about the Oxford comma. I can't do it. It just doesn't look right.

It's funny ... in both cases the more logical rule is the one that doesn't look right. Shows how screwed up grammar is.
 
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Studio eNVy said:
I don't normally do this; but since this is a thread for dshans:

Shouldn't the title read:

"dshans' Infinitely More Upbeat Thread"?
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Two day ago in The Help Thread dshans asked for "A Little Help" in creating a new thread. No one responded. I started to reply directly to him but the thought hit me that as he had forgotten how to create a new thread chances are that after reading my missive he would "misplace" the instructions between closing my PM and trying to create his new thread. So I put my insomnia to use and created one for him. Since this is Dick's (that's for hog) Thread I thought it was apropos that I toss him a softball so he could do what he does best. He must have slept in this morning (when I started this reply he had not yet posted but he was lurking. Perhaps concentrating on where his car keys were or some other inconvenient multi-tasking synaptic mis-fire. Anyway reps Studio for the spirit of things.

irishog77 said:
There really needs to be a dick reference in here too.
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See above. I set that one up. Thanks for playing.

Pops Freshenmeyer said:
The Chicago Manual of Style prefers "Dshans's" :)
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Actually, I believe neither is correct as Dick uses a lower case d in his user name. It's appropriate even at the beginning of a sentence, I believe, spell his name correctly. I hate it when computer databases eliminate the apostrophe in my last name and turn the second capital letter to lower case. You get reps anyway as does Studio.

Whiskeyjack said:
Can't bring myself to do that. It just doesn't look right.

Since this is a dshans thread... how about that Oxford Comma? I'm for it, personally.
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Thank you, Whiskey! I've never heard of an Oxford (or Harvard, yes, I looked it up) Comma. I always though it was a Sister Vilma Comma (Philippini nun at St. Peter's). Throughout my business career new secretaries would gleefully delete my comma before "and" in a series pointing out it was superfluous. I would equally gleefully advise them of St. Vilma's Comma and to type it the first time as I wrote it so they wouldn't have to re-type the letter, specification, or contract as they were going to then. They usually learned quickly that Sister Vilma prevailed. Had I known about the Oxford Comma there would be a lot less mature women in the world hating Sister Vilma.

In the hour it's taken me to compose this tome, Dick has probably already posted and slipped into his afternoon nap.
 
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And now to the meat of the matter.

I was tired of that cheap bastard Cali_Guy making a vFortune from the rumored violations thread will all its diversions, hijackings and derailments.

I was thinking along the line of IE IE (Irish Envy Irish Epicurious). My notion being that it would be a place to wage burger battles, debate dry rub vs marinade, post recipes, pics, discuss the merits and demerits of carnivore, herbivore, omnivore and whatevervore.

I'm pretty sure that it would be doomed to failure, though, since such a dedicated thread would take the fun out of it.

I just wanted to start something that might pad my vIRA.
 
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