Diaco Hired as Purdue DC

BobbyMac

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In regards to UConn:

If/when Texas causes the P5 to become the P4, UConn will be in the ACC. The ACC will get picked over and need filler. AAU schools UNC, UVa, Duke & Pitt will look to join the B1G while schools like Va Tech, NC St, Clemson, FSU & Miami will look to join the SEC. They won't all defect but some will. It's coming, Texas is going to get more money and prestige from the B1G or PAC down the line.

The ACC has the most to lose in a P5 contraction. They will 100% need additions.
 

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This is a good case study in what the two schools will tolerate. UConn fired a coach after going 3-9 in year 3. ND retained a coach who went 4-8 in year 7.

Which one is the football school again?

While I agree that Kelly should've been fired after this abysmal season (though, to his credit, I like the changes being made), Diaco has had 3 consecutive losing seasons and this year, their offense was unwatchable. Heck, all three years, their offenses have been a complete joke. He doesn't have a leg to stand on. Kelly has at least shown that he can field a good team every now and then.
 

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I suppose it's possible that Kelly brings him back as an analyst like he did with Quinn. Not saying I'd want that, but it's a possibility.
 

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While I agree that Kelly should've been fired after this abysmal season (though, to his credit, I like the changes being made), Diaco has had 3 consecutive losing seasons and this year, their offense was unwatchable. Heck, all three years, their offenses have been a complete joke. He doesn't have a leg to stand on. Kelly has at least shown that he can field a good team every now and then.

Right, but 8-5 is considered a triumph at UConn. Again, it's like Duke, UNC, IU, Kentucky, KU, etc.- football is just what happens before basketball season. Serviceable cuts it.
 

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Was never a big fan, but thought he would have done better. Thought he should have gone to the MAC instead of Con..
 

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He says, just as the Chuck Martin led Redhawks of Miami(OH) are taking an ESS-EEE-CEE team down to the wire in the St. Petersburg Bowl....

Nobody said that the tree -like Kelly- can't take higher-talent teams down to the wire. What none of them can do is consistently beat such teams.
 

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Nobody said that the tree -like Kelly- can't take higher-talent teams down to the wire. What none of them can do is consistently beat such teams.

I think it was pretty obvious that he was trying to disrespect Kelly by implying that his assistants who have gone on to get HC gigs have accomplished nothing. I'm not making the argument that they have achieved greatness, just pointing out that there have been some successes.
 
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Assuming Elston is DL coach as Elko brings his DC, I don't see how we could hire Diaco although I'd love him back at ND
 

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I think it was pretty obvious that he was trying to disrespect Kelly by implying that his assistants who have gone on to get HC gigs have accomplished nothing. I'm not making the argument that they have achieved greatness, just pointing out that there have been some successes.

Just pointing out facts. If the truth = disrespect then someone is letting emotion cloud their view.

Quinn - fired
Molnar - fired
Diaco - fired
Martin - had success at D3 GVSU & avoided hot seat this year w/ a great turnaround to finish 6-7
Anyone else I'm omitting?


While I was happy that Martin had a huge turnaround that arguably saved his job, I'd be interested to see a list of the successes by Kelly's asst coaches vs the coaching trees of Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops & other prominent HC.
 

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Just pointing out facts. If the truth = disrespect then someone is letting emotion cloud their view.

Quinn - fired
Molnar - fired
Diaco - fired
Martin - had success at D3 GVSU & avoided hot seat this year w/ a great turnaround to finish 6-7
Anyone else I'm omitting?


While I was happy that Martin had a huge turnaround that arguably saved his job, I'd be interested to see a list of the successes by Kelly's asst coaches vs the coaching trees of Meyer, Harbaugh, Stoops & other prominent HC.


BK's coaching tree.....


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Where's Butch jones in the tree?

BK's coaching tree is much much larger than 4 people. Maybe few have went on to be major D1 coaches, but BK has been head coach for 20+, his trees bigger than 4.

Also, what does the HC success of his assistants have to do with BK? Maybe I'm missing why ND would care?
 

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Where's Butch jones in the tree?

BK's coaching tree is much much larger than 4 people. Maybe few have went on to be major D1 coaches, but BK has been head coach for 20+, his trees bigger than 4.

Also, what does the HC success of his assistants have to do with BK? Maybe I'm missing why ND would care?

So who else that we haven't mentioned has been successful? Being named head coach at Tennessee is not being successful. Jones has been a typically Kellyesque 8-5 coach and you should expect him to be fired after next season.

The bigger problem is that UConn now has higher expectations for its program than ND does. Diaco is the Jersey version of Kelly: the only other difference is that he underperformed with 2 and 3 stars while Kelly underperforms with 4 and 5 stars.
 

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Actually, the ACC was going to take UConn, but BC and Syracuse -along with the football schools- blocked them. BC and Syracuse are bitter about their lack of success compared to UConn and don't want encroachments upon their "territory" (NYC/New England).



Kelly has taken top 10 talent and churned out top 30 seasons. Diaco has taken top 75 talent and churned out top 100 seasons. Meh.



Nailed it. BC and Syracuse are haters and completely blocked UCONN from joining the ACC, which would have made the ACC the SEC of basketball, which the conference probably is anyways.

I'm hoping UCONN could join a P5 one day, even if it's the Big 12.


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Actually, the ACC was going to take UConn, but BC and Syracuse -along with the football schools- blocked them. BC and Syracuse are bitter about their lack of success compared to UConn and don't want encroachments upon their "territory" (NYC/New England).

That's what I'm getting at chief. They don't grow the pie, they don't have a large enough fanbase and the state of Connecticut doesn't have enough population to justify the expansion.

Kelly has taken top 10 talent and churned out top 30 seasons. Diaco has taken top 75 talent and churned out top 100 seasons. Meh.

That's not the sort of calculus Athletic Directors do.
 

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Tony Alford and Kerry Coombs seem to be doing well...

Alford is really from Dan McCarney's tree. CW hired him, so I don't give BK a lot of credit. Maybe for keeping him...

Coomb was a rock star HS coach, and I give credit for BK pulling him up. He only spent 3 years with BK, and stayed when Jones came in. He spent almost as much time with Jones as with BK. And he spent more time with Urbie than anyone at the college level.

Why BK didn't bring him to ND when he left UC amazes me...
 

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Tony Alford and Kerry Coombs seem to be doing well...

Yes, but we are talking head coaches. Plus, Alford came from ISU and was hired by Weis. When I hear "coaching tree" I assume it means the assistants that went on to be HC.
 

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Just pointing out facts. If the truth = disrespect then someone is letting emotion cloud their view.

Quinn - fired
Molnar - fired
Diaco - fired
Martin - had success at D3 GVSU & avoided hot seat this year w/ a great turnaround to finish 6-7
Anyone else I'm omitting?

It's not emotion to say that going on to be the Head Coach of a D-IA school is a success. This was their first D-IA head coaching gig. Not all great coaches succeed right away. Not saying that any of them will be great, but failing at their first HC job isn't proof that they won't. Bill Belichick compiled a 36-44 record before he got run out of Cleveland. Pete Carroll went a combined 33-31 at the Jets and Patriots, before he was relegated to coaching college football.
 

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This is a good case study in what the two schools will tolerate. UConn fired a coach after going 3-9 in year 3. ND retained a coach who went 4-8 in year 7.

Which one is the football school again?

In absolutely no way is it a good case study in this regard. If you think the only thing either school thought about w/r/t firing a head coach was a single number, then sure, it was a good case study.
 
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