Democratic Primary Thread (New Poll - January)

Democratic Primary Thread (New Poll - January)

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 14 20.3%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 16 23.2%
  • Andrew Yang

    Votes: 7 10.1%
  • Amy Klobuchar

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Mike Bloomberg

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • Other (i.e. an unlisted candidate)

    Votes: 12 17.4%

  • Total voters
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Irish YJ

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It's being reported that she's basically trying to sell her endorsement to either Biden or Bernie. Angling for VP or best offer. Bernie should absolutely jump on the opportunity to tab her as VP, because her support may make him competitive in the remaining states and he seems dead in the water if it goes the other direction.

Yup. Such a sell out lol to the progressive cause. She's still trying to F Bernie even in potentially helping him.

If I were Biden, I'd offer her whatever just to keep her away from Bernie. Same for Bernie. It's funny to think of here having that kind of power..

If I were in her shoes and carrying 10-15% of the vote in my back pocket, I'd probably be doing the same thing haha... she is a valuable asset, that's for sure.

Going to be very weird seeing only two people on stage for the final* debate on 3/15.


Tulsi might fit on the stage now? LOL..
 

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In the span of three days, it went from Bernie Sanders being better than even money to 5-to-1 against. Biden went from 10-to-1 against on 2/25 to 1-to-5 in favor as of today.

Biden is 47 points up in Florida, and leads in every state voting next week except Washington. This all might be over before Sanders even has the opportunity to scream at Biden on March 15th.
 

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I was hoping she'd stay in a while longer....
 

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In the span of three days, it went from Bernie Sanders being better than even money to 5-to-1 against. Biden went from 10-to-1 against on 2/25 to 1-to-5 in favor as of today.

Biden is 47 points up in Florida, and leads in every state voting next week except Washington. This all might be over before Sanders even has the opportunity to scream at Biden on March 15th.

That Florida poll was crazy. It’s really hard to see Bernie winning if he gets beat like that there.
 

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It's being reported that she's basically trying to sell her endorsement to either Biden or Bernie. Angling for VP or best offer. Bernie should absolutely jump on the opportunity to tab her as VP, because her support may make him competitive in the remaining states and he seems dead in the water if it goes the other direction.

I don't see what Biden would offer her. She provides next to nothing. Dem establishment has their candidate now.
 

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I don't see what Biden would offer her. She provides next to nothing. Dem establishment has their candidate now.

She provides Creepy Joe, the women vote. And provides Moderate Joe, some progressive vote. She's big for college educated women.
 

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Generation X must really suck when all we have running D.C. are Boomer white people creeping into their 90s.

Guess they'll outlive us all since they get great health care.

I'm moving to Germany. I'm told dogs and toddlers there are kinder. Plus the Bundesliga kicks ass.
 

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I don't see what Biden would offer her. She provides next to nothing. Dem establishment has their candidate now.

I think it'd be a mistake for Biden to make her VP. But like... Secretary of ___? Might be worth it to get her endorsement.

I, ultimately, expect her to endorse Bernie. But it's crazy that it leaked that she has "contacted both camps" to see who is best fit for her endorsement... so transparent lol
 

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I think it'd be a mistake for Biden to make her VP. But like... Secretary of ___? Might be worth it to get her endorsement.

I, ultimately, expect her to endorse Bernie. But it's crazy that it leaked that she has "contacted both camps" to see who is best fit for her endorsement... so transparent lol

I’d be surprised if she endorses Bernie. Warren wants to enact her agenda and affect change. To do that, she needs to align with the winner. Ultimately I think she either goes with Biden or stays neutral. Unless Biden tells her to get bent, which would be a mistake.

As for her “ask,” agree I don’t really see Biden making her VP. Nor, like, Treasury Secretary given how they’ve fought over banking reform in the past. But she apparently came to Clinton before the election in 2016 with lists of people she thought would be good for various posts in the administration, so maybe that kind of influence and... Biden’s backing to be Senate Majority Leader?
 
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I’d be surprised if she endorses Bernie. Warren wants to enact her agenda and affect change. To do that, she needs to align with the winner. Ultimately I think she either goes with Biden or stays neutral. Unless Biden tells her to get bent, which would be a mistake.

As for her “ask,” agree I don’t really see Biden making her VP. Nor, like, Treasury Secretary given how they’ve fought over banking reform in the past. But she apparently came to Clinton before the election in 2016 with lists of people she thought would be good for various posts in the administration, so maybe that kind of influence and... Biden’s backing to be Senate Majority Leader?

IDK. Smells of self interest as much as wanting to enact her agenda. It's a political move, not an ideological one. She was absolutely more "revolutionary" in her campaign, and now willing to join the establishment. Par for the course with her though.
 

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Trump is going to destroy Biden. Just air this video for 5 months before the election and he won't have to do anything else.

Can't embed on mobile.

https://youtu.be/5XqF4wA-dco

lol, yes, that's pretty horrible.. didn't realize it was that bad

<iframe width="600" height="400" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5XqF4wA-dco" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
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I couldn't watch more than half of that video before I started to feel physically ill.
 
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lol, yes, that's pretty horrible.. didn't realize it was that bad

<iframe width="600" height="400" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5XqF4wA-dco" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

My hero.
 

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I was hoping she'd stay in a while longer....

She provides Creepy Joe, the women vote. And provides Moderate Joe, some progressive vote. She's big for college educated women.

I think it'd be a mistake for Biden to make her VP. But like... Secretary of ___? Might be worth it to get her endorsement.

I, ultimately, expect her to endorse Bernie. But it's crazy that it leaked that she has "contacted both camps" to see who is best fit for her endorsement... so transparent lol

I expected her to stay in longer as well, but she may see this as her best opportunity to get the nomination in the next election assuming DJT wins again.

Generation X must really suck when all we have running D.C. are Boomer white people creeping into their 90s.

Hey now, don't rush us. I'm a boomer and only 67. Boomers go up to about late 70's. It's the Greatest Generation that's in their 80's and 90's.
 

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lol, yes, that's pretty horrible.. didn't realize it was that bad

<iframe width="600" height="400" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5XqF4wA-dco" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That's more than creepy. The way he puts his hand right under their breasts, pulls them in, hangs on to an arm, strokes their hair, leans in ti kiss them. The same routine with all of them. You can tell most aren't comfortable with it. Even the older lady had that "WTF" look when he tried it on her.
 

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That's more than creepy. The way he puts his hand right under their breasts, pulls them in, hangs on to an arm, strokes their hair, leans in ti kiss them. The same routine with all of them. You can tell most aren't comfortable with it. Even the older lady had that "WTF" look when he tried it on her.

it's disturbing AF.
NOT role model lol


Caption contest....

"Got some ice cream, where all the lil' girls at"

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Honey be a good little girl and put a cherry on this.
 

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lol, yes, that's pretty horrible.. didn't realize it was that bad

<iframe width="600" height="400" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5XqF4wA-dco" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

For mah gamers:

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That's more than creepy. The way he puts his hand right under their breasts, pulls them in, hangs on to an arm, strokes their hair, leans in ti kiss them. The same routine with all of them. You can tell most aren't comfortable with it. Even the older lady had that "WTF" look when he tried it on her.

Lol I just watched the full thing for the first time. What in the F? How does anyone put a camera on the clown.

That's creepy as hell. I keep thinking its Jonny Knoxville about to pop out of his old-guy costume but it's actually Joe Biden.
 
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Lol I just watched the full thing for the first time. What in the F? How does anyone put a camera on the clown.

That's creepy as hell. I keep thinking its Jonny Knoxville about to pop out of his old-guy costume but it's actually Joe Biden.

Trump makes a gross macho comment about a grown woman when he thinks he's having a private conversation and the media and dems paint him as a serial rapist.

The leader in the clubhouse for the DNC nomination has a 4+ minute highlight reel of groping underage girls in public and you'll never hear a peep about it.

Not even a huge Trump fan, but you have to find that hypocrisy hilarious.
 

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Bloomberg is saying he is going to continue to spend to influence the nomination. I'm guessing he'll spend to keep Bernie out.
 

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Bloomberg is saying he is going to continue to spend to influence the nomination. I'm guessing he'll spend to keep Bernie out.

Haven't you heard? Bloomberg spent $500M on ads....he could've given each American $1M instead with all that wasted money! (Yes someone on Twitter said that and MSN picked it up in a segment...unreal....Bring back Yang #MATH)

On a serious note, I'm not a huge fan of telling people how they should spend their money, but c'mon...this guy is lighting millions of dollars on fire in order to first, buy an election, two, now influence it. Donate that money away to some great foundations, schools, organizations instead. *I'm sure he donates to charities, but I just find that kind of waste absurd.
 
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Lol I just watched the full thing for the first time. What in the F? How does anyone put a camera on the clown.

That's creepy as hell. I keep thinking its Jonny Knoxville about to pop out of his old-guy costume but it's actually Joe Biden.

I'm sure Joe's "handlers" have told him to stay the F away from kids on camera going forward. Damage is done though. If a republican did the same, it would be aired 24/7 on MSN until the election.
 

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BERNIE SANDERSPublished 4 hours ago
Sanders says Biden can’t ‘generate enthusiasm’ due to billionaire backers
By Adam Shaw | Fox News

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on Saturday expressed doubt that Democratic presidential primary rival Joe Biden can “generate enthusiasm” due to the support he is getting from dozens of billionaires -- while promising to back the former vice president if he is the nominee.

“The American people are disgusted with billionaires buying elections. We believe in democracy, one person one vote, not billionaires spending hundreds of millions of dollars ” Sanders told supporters in Dearborn, Mich. “I just don't think that Joe Biden can generate enthusiasm when you got 60 billionaires contributing to his campaign,” he said to boos.

He went on to accuse Biden's backers of running “ugly” ads against him. The two men have trained their sights on each other after most other candidates have pulled out of the race -- with only Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, as the third remaining candidate.

“When you've got, Joe Biden has a Super PAC with billionaires putting money into that Super PAC and right now our campaign has taken on a Super PAC running ugly negative ads against us all over the country,” Sanders said.

After Biden scored major wins on Super Tuesday, restoring his status as frontrunner, Sanders has sought to draw a bigger distinction between them -- casting doubt on Biden’s ability to fight for the American people.

“At the end of the day, people understand that if you're taking lots of money from billionaires, you’re not going to be there standing up for the working class and the middle class of this country,” he said.

However, he also said he would support Biden if he got the nod from the Democratic Party, something that Biden has also said about Sanders.

"Because we know how important it is to beat President Trump," Sanders said.

The remarks indicate the race for the nomination is intensifying. The self-described democratic socialist has targeted Biden since before Super Tuesday, but that has increased since Biden swept 10 of the 14 Super Tuesday states.

This week, Sanders accused Biden of supporting banning openly gay Americans from serving in the military when he was in the Senate. Biden campaign national press secretary Jamal Brown responded by saying Sanders was “lying.”

“[Biden] is on record saying he didn't have an issue with gays & lesbians in the military,” he said.

With 125 pledged delegates at stake, Michigan is the biggest prize among the six states holding primaries on Tuesday, March 10. Missouri, Mississippi, Washington State, Idaho and North Dakota also hold contests.

Sanders told reporters on Thursday: "Michigan is where we'll spend a bit of our time."
 

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

538 Odds on The Primary

Biden 7 in 8, 88%

Nobody 1 in 12, 9%

Sanders 1in 50, 2%

Gabbard < 1 in 100, 0%

Saw some polls from AZ on the General. Was basically a toss up with both Biden VS Trump, and Sanders VS Trump. I think Biden was +1 over Trump, and Sanders -1 under Trump. Since AZ is by most considered a toss up state, was surprised Trump was about even with both given all the national polls suggesting Trump loses to all the Dems I saw last month.
 

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Saw some polls from AZ on the General. Was basically a toss up with both Biden VS Trump, and Sanders VS Trump. I think Biden was +1 over Trump, and Sanders -1 under Trump. Since AZ is by most considered a toss up state, was surprised Trump was about even with both given all the national polls suggesting Trump loses to all the Dems I saw last month.


So, recapping, Bernie trails Nobody but Anybody beats Trump.
 
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