Culture

[ACamp1900]

Underneath the surface has always been a racism and the same rural-urban tensions in a lot of America.

This still gets me in 2018. I have seen racism of all kinds towards just about every race from just about every race, but it's so diluted and soft out here and usually gets enough of a reaction from most good people in the general area that it's squashed quickly. I do love that about L.A. and S.D.,.. you don't really have to worry too much these days. Just be respectful and you'll get respect regardless. I would like to assume it's that way elsewhere but from what others share here about their big city experiences it feels like 'not so much'... Anyway,... That's been the general rule during my adult life, regardless of what ethnicity 'controls' whichever given area. Obviously wasn't always this way,...

 

[connor_in]

Forget the comedian who said it, but they had line to the effect of Oregon is for the people who are too weird for California.

 

[ACamp1900]

Forget the comedian who said it, but they had line to the effect of Oregon is for the people who are too weird for California.

I'll never forget when OSU beat USC for like the third straight time up in Corvallis the fans rushed the field and one of their fans held up a sign saying: "California is Oregon's Mexico"

That had me laughing for like a week.

 

[ACamp1900]

So the Portland Timbers just released a video celebrating the history of their stadium that goes back 92 years. You think you're about to get a cool history lesson but then it spirals into this super awkward antique road show of strange and meaningless fan moments... lol... would have liked an actual historical breakdown tho.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Not sure where else to put this. I just read an article about LeBron saying his 11 and 14 year old sons drink wine with him. No doubt he'll get some blowback about this, but I don't have a problem with it. In many parts of the world, wine is served regularly at family meals and all the kids drink some.

Neither of my parents were heavy drinkers at all. We had a cattle farm which meant there was a cow in the freezer at all times, so we grilled steaks almost every Saturday night. They always had a glass of wine with their steak and by the time I was 11 or 12, I was allowed to have a glass if I wanted. My dad's attitude towards alcohol was that if he made it a taboo thing, I'd be more likely to drink heavily after I left home and finally could. He was right. When I went to college I never thought, "Wow, FINALLY I can try a beer and see what all the fuss is about." It just wasn't a big deal... been there done that. Aside from a few isolated incidents, I never over drank and I still rarely have more than 10-15 drinks per year.

I think what LeBron is doing is perfectly fine, but probably illegal in most places. I've done the same with my daughters and none of them have ever had any drinking problems. Educate them and take away the mystery and taboo effect.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not sure where else to put this. I just read an article about LeBron saying his 11 and 14 year old sons drink wine with him. No doubt he'll get some blowback about this, but I don't have a problem with it. In many parts of the world, wine is served regularly at family meals and all the kids drink some.

Neither of my parents were heavy drinkers at all. We had a cattle farm which meant there was a cow in the freezer at all times, so we grilled steaks almost every Saturday night. They always had a glass of wine with their steak and by the time I was 11 or 12, I was allowed to have a glass if I wanted. My dad's attitude towards alcohol was that if he made it a taboo thing, I'd be more likely to drink heavily after I left home and finally could. He was right. When I went to college I never thought, "Wow, FINALLY I can try a beer and see what all the fuss is about." It just wasn't a big deal... been there done that. Aside from a few isolated incidents, I never over drank and I still rarely have more than 10-15 drinks per year.

I think what LeBron is doing is perfectly fine, but probably illegal in most places. I've done the same with my daughters and none of them have ever had any drinking problems. Educate them and take away the mystery and taboo effect.

This is one area the Europeans get it right.

 

[Irish YJ]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertai...th-the-stars-juniors-premiere-mxp-hln-vpx.hln

don't miss honey boo boo on dancing with the stars JR edition....

holy cow, the end is coming

 

[ulukinatme]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertai...th-the-stars-juniors-premiere-mxp-hln-vpx.hln

don't miss honey boo boo on dancing with the stars JR edition....

holy cow, the end is coming

Who watches this garbage?

 

[Irish YJ]

Who watches this garbage?

I don't know who watches half the shit on TV these days.
It's scary to me that shows like the Kardashians are so popular.

 

[ickythump1225]

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[GowerND11]

Not sure where else to put this. I just read an article about LeBron saying his 11 and 14 year old sons drink wine with him. No doubt he'll get some blowback about this, but I don't have a problem with it. In many parts of the world, wine is served regularly at family meals and all the kids drink some.

Neither of my parents were heavy drinkers at all. We had a cattle farm which meant there was a cow in the freezer at all times, so we grilled steaks almost every Saturday night. They always had a glass of wine with their steak and by the time I was 11 or 12, I was allowed to have a glass if I wanted. My dad's attitude towards alcohol was that if he made it a taboo thing, I'd be more likely to drink heavily after I left home and finally could. He was right. When I went to college I never thought, "Wow, FINALLY I can try a beer and see what all the fuss is about." It just wasn't a big deal... been there done that. Aside from a few isolated incidents, I never over drank and I still rarely have more than 10-15 drinks per year.

I think what LeBron is doing is perfectly fine, but probably illegal in most places. I've done the same with my daughters and none of them have ever had any drinking problems. Educate them and take away the mystery and taboo effect.

I would say in all of the US it's completely illegal, and that is wrong. He could get so much flak, people could even call CPS on him, he could be fined, etc. All because they try wine with mom and dad, have a glass at dinner, etc. We as a nation have made alcohol out to be a boogie man for too long, it's impossible to provide our children with opportunity to learn about it and be safe without breaking law.

 

[ACamp1900]

I would say in all of the US it's completely illegal, and that is wrong...

Pretty sure it's not illegal in California. It has always been my understanding that underage drinking laws out here only pertain to outside the home. Maybe I'm wrong but that's been my understanding... Example: letting my 15 year old daughter have a beer at home wouldn't break any law, but letting her take a beer with her to a friend's house would.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Yeah I'm not so sure it's illegal in most places. Hell in Texas, a parent can order a beer for their underage kid. And you better believe that Wisconsin allows kids to have wine at home.

 

[GowerND11]

Wow, I'm thoroughly shocked since the laws in the US have always been wacky, backwards, and unnecessarily strict over alcohol.

 

[ulukinatme]

Pretty sure it's not illegal in California. It has always been my understanding that underage drinking laws out here only pertain to outside the home. Maybe I'm wrong but that's been my understanding... Example: letting my 15 year old daughter have a beer at home wouldn't break any law, but letting her take a beer with her to a friend's house would.

I know in Ohio it's not illegal for parents to give their kids an alcoholic beverage, but I'm pretty sure that only applies at home. You can't order them one in a restaurant or bar, and you certainly can't give it to other kids.

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/ohio-law/underage-drinking-and-social-host-liability-in-ohio.html

[EDIT] I was wrong, apparently. You CAN order your children an alcoholic beverage at a bar or restaurant as long as you're supervising. It still doesn't apply to other children though.

 

[GowerND11]

Texas is one of ten states (California, Colorado, Maryland, Montana, New York, Texas, West Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming) that allow consumption by minors in the presence of consenting and supervising family members.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_Texas

 

[ACamp1900]

"I was going to be somebody... but then my parents moved us to Texas..."

 

[ACamp1900]

[EDIT] I was wrong, apparently. You CAN order your children an alcoholic beverage at a bar or restaurant as long as you're supervising.

Whoa... now THAT surprises me...

 

[ulukinatme]

Whoa... now THAT surprises me...

Apparently it's also legal for a spouse to provide alcohol to their spouse if the later party is underage and the former is over 21. That seems like a great pickup line if you're trying to score college girls: "Hey, marry me and I can provide all the beer you want."

 

[ACamp1900]

Almost positive you can't buy or share a drink legally with your child while in public in Cali.... it's more of what you choose to do in your own home is fine but outside the home all bets are off kind of thing.

 

[Irish#1]

I love Portland! Been there a bunch of times on tour and gotta say it was a blast. Definitely blows most of the Mid West out of the water in terms of interesting stuff to do and see and good times to be had. I wonder if Bill Ray’s Dive Bar is still around?

He moved out there, because he had been there a few times visiting a HS buddy and liked what the area had to offer in activities. It's a very pretty area of the country. He was excited to move out there. He soured because he grew up with Midwestern values where if you want something, you work for it.

 

[Bluto]

He moved out there, because he had been there a few times visiting a HS buddy and liked what the area had to offer in activities. It's a very pretty area of the country. He was excited to move out there. He soured because he grew up with Midwestern values where if you want something, you work for it.

Sounds like he should have hung out with more Mexicans. Lol.

 

[Bluto]

I've only been to Portland once and was surprised by how dirty and beat up it was. I guess i expected this very green, very nice looking city and what I got was a somewhat green and very dirty run down wasteland... maybe it was just the time I was there or the area I was in but the optics were really bad. I didn't get any of the culture it's known for one way or the other.

That stinks. What you described sounds more like Eugene. That place is kind of a dump. Went to play a show their back in the 90’s and that was total disaster. Google Resist and Exist festival Eugene 1996, might be worth a few laughs.

 

[Irish#1]

Sounds like he should have hung out with more Mexicans. Lol.

Rep'd ya for that one!

 

[IrishSteelhead]

That stinks. What you described sounds more like Eugene. That place is kind of a dump. Went to play a show their back in the 90&#146;s and that was total disaster. Google Resist and Exist festival Eugene 1996, might be worth a few laughs.

Were you in a punk band?!?!?!?


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[Irish#1]

The leader in the Indiana House is now under scrutiny for a complaint of sexual harassment 20 years ago. The ironic thing is he is now leading the group to create a sexual harassment policy. As of now Indiana lawmakers are not bound by any policy like state employees are. Accuser has a checkered past, but Bosma used campaigns funds to hire an attorney to investigate. Accusers refused to be interviewed, but some family members and an ex talked to the attorney. Accuser is now claiming intimidation. Not sure who's telling the truth.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news...leged-sexual-encounter-she-claims/1537381002/

 

[IrishLax]

That stinks. What you described sounds more like Eugene. That place is kind of a dump. Went to play a show their back in the 90’s and that was total disaster. Google Resist and Exist festival Eugene 1996, might be worth a few laughs.

Eugene is the dumpiest dump ever. It's in my bottom 10 cities. Stopped through there on a PNW road trip because we were crashing with someone who was at Oregon for grad school and we got the fuck out of there as fast as possible the next day.

Portland was our next stop and a ton of fun but we just did touristy stuff... Voodoo Donuts, that giant ass bookstore, Deschutes, etc. We went by some video game bar called Ground Control that was surprisingly fun. A lot of culture... not sure I could ever live there long term though.

 

[ACamp1900]

I passed through Eugene too and it was kind of like Portland to me... mind you both were just short stops and such. I thought Corvallis was nice enough though, very pretty...

 

[Legacy]

Foreign-born residents accounted for 75 percent of the population growth in the Portland-South Portland region from 2011 to 2016 according to a recent report.

Immigrants contributed $1.2 billion to the Portland metro area’s gross domestic product in 2016, paying $133 million in federal taxes and $62 million in state and local taxes, the report said. And immigrants in the Portland area tend to be more educated than their U.S.-born counterparts, with nearly 37 percent holding a bachelor’s degree or higher compared to 30 percent of the American-born.

A more diverse cultural population as well as the changing attitudes in Washington towards the radical right has contributed to fueling the racism and their extremist views that previously were not tolerated by both political parties.

Portland and Oregon in general have a rosy economic picture with both large and multinational corporations as well as encouraging start-ups. Portland has drawn on a highly-educated population all of which adds up to state budget surpluses ($200 million this year) and federal tax contributions. The state has a more diverse economy than a state that mainly relies on revenues from oil-production as an example.

That growth has brought employment problems in that companies are unable to fill their open job positions. The tech industry alone mainly around Portland recently reported they have 5,200 jobs that they have been unable to fill.

The construction industry is booming in Portland also with many job openings that have been unable to fulfill. For long-time Portland residents the skyline is changing as Portland currently has more than D.C., NYC, and San Francisco.

Oregon fruit and vegetable growers, dairy and cattle farmers and owners of plant nurseries and vineyards have worker shortages that are damaging to their livelihoods based on recent immigration policies and have lobbyed politicians there and in Washington DC for reasonable changes to the non-skilled guest workers programs that would improve their financial outlook.

 

[Legacy]

Waterfront Blues Festival in Portland for four days around July 4th draws large crowds with four stages and a hundred performers.