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[wizards8507]

Here's a tweet I found from Ross Douthat's Twitter feed

1. delay financial independence by forcing a generation to pay 10x the tuition their parents did2. make family-sized housing totally unaffordable in desirable metro areas for people who didn't buy decades ago3. make childcare unaffordable4. (see below) https://t.co/5pDHxFVeyE— Michael T Sweeney (@mtsw) May 16, 2018

It's the only thing Elizabeth Warren has ever gotten right. The surge of working women has depressed wages while inflating the cost of housing and childcare. Childcare is free when you don't outsource it to strangers.

 

[NDRock]

It's the only thing Elizabeth Warren has ever gotten right. The surge of working women has depressed wages while inflating the cost of housing and childcare. Childcare is free when you don't outsource it to strangers.

People go broke because they buy tons of crap they don’t need with money they don’t have. I see it all the time. There’s guys I work with who buy a truck equal to their yearly salary. Insane.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This says it all about modern America. <a href="https://t.co/rvbw0nqx6O">pic.twitter.com/rvbw0nqx6O</a></p>— Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/996960190925697024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Whiskeyjack]

It's the only thing Elizabeth Warren has ever gotten right. The surge of working women has depressed wages while inflating the cost of housing and childcare. Childcare is free when you don't outsource it to strangers.

Glad you're coming to realize that contraception, divorce, abortion, feminism, etc. is a capitalist psyop to destroy the family and create a massive pool of consumerist wage slaves. Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage.

People go broke because they buy tons of crap they don’t need with money they don’t have. I see it all the time. There’s guys I work with who buy a truck equal to their yearly salary. Insane.

Everything in our society--culture, advertising, education, financial structures, etc.--is geared toward putting you in debt and getting you hooked on consumerist garbage. The poor have far fewer defenses against this stuff than others, so yes, they tend to be most enslaved to it. But that's not an occasion to pat ourselves on the back for our wisdom and discipline; it's an indictment of the system we live under.

 

[Irish#1]

Don't know if anyone has visited the TED talks site, but there are some interesting speakers. This one discusses how we are being manipulated via the internet.

https://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles

 

[Irish#1]

Everything in our society--culture, advertising, education, financial structures, etc.--is geared toward putting you in debt and getting you hooked on consumerist garbage. The poor have far fewer defenses against this stuff than others, so yes, they tend to be most enslaved to it. But that's not an occasion to pat ourselves on the back for our wisdom and discipline; it's an indictment of the system we live under.

My wife and I do okay. We haven't bought a new car in a while even though we can afford it. We haven't splurged on others things, but we are finishing up a bathroom renovation that I'm doing. We paid cash for the tub, tile, vanity, floor, etc.. Last night she's complaining about the girl next door who's going through a divorce and "has everything". I reminded her that, 1. She really doesn't know the girls situation and 2. With all of the things her and her soon to be ex had purchased in the short time they have lived next to us, they are probably up to their eyeballs in debt where we aren't.

 

[NDRock]

Glad you're coming to realize that contraception, divorce, abortion, feminism, etc. is a capitalist psyop to destroy the family and create a massive pool of consumerist wage slaves. Selling your birthright for a mess of pottage.



Everything in our society--culture, advertising, education, financial structures, etc.--is geared toward putting you in debt and getting you hooked on consumerist garbage. The poor have far fewer defenses against this stuff than others, so yes, they tend to be most enslaved to it. But that's not an occasion to pat ourselves on the back for our wisdom and discipline; it's an indictment of the system we live under.

It’s the same with food. Drive down the main road in my city and it’s lined with buildings with food that is bad for you, stores with crap you don’t need, and places willing to borrow you the money you don’t have (lots of payday lenders). That’s the American way. Sad.

 

[ACamp1900]

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[connor_in]

Interesting thread of tweets from a conservative student at graduation on their time at a generally liberal school.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In honor of graduating and getting booed while receiving my diploma, I’d like to reflect on my time at <a href="https://twitter.com/mtholyoke?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mtholyoke</a>. THREAD</p>— Kassy Dillon (@KassyDillon) <a href="https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/999125361660190721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[IrishLax]

Interesting thread of tweets from a conservative student at graduation on their time at a generally liberal school.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In honor of graduating and getting booed while receiving my diploma, I’d like to reflect on my time at <a href="https://twitter.com/mtholyoke?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mtholyoke</a>. THREAD</p>— Kassy Dillon (@KassyDillon) <a href="https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/999125361660190721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That's kind of nuts. Given what she described, it seems likely she received much more targeted harassment/discrimination than the "marginalized" students that those people were supposedly so concerned about having a "safe space." Look at how many times they try to invalidate her just because of her skin color.

 

[greyhammer90]

Interesting thread of tweets from a conservative student at graduation on their time at a generally liberal school.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In honor of graduating and getting booed while receiving my diploma, I’d like to reflect on my time at <a href="https://twitter.com/mtholyoke?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mtholyoke</a>. THREAD</p>— Kassy Dillon (@KassyDillon) <a href="https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/999125361660190721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The typical conservative campus experience. Throwing ball on the quad, enjoying the changing seasons reflected in the campus foliage... and who among us doesn't fondly reminisce on their junior year Daily Wire article?

 

[ACamp1900]

I especially liked: "Can we stop talking about this mayonnaise white bitch? We get it. Republicans are musty and racist."

 

[wizards8507]

Kassy Dillon sucks. She's sort of a loud mouth who puts herself out there and then gets triggered when the libs fight back.

 

[greyhammer90]

Kassy Dillon sucks. She's sort of a loud mouth who puts herself out there and then gets triggered when the libs fight back.

This is what I was getting at with the above. College kids who get so wrapped up in their *cause* identities love to punch/play victim against college kids who do the same for the opposite ideology. It happens in most cliques. I remember I had a friend who was big into Student Government and you would have thought the other side was literally Stalin if you spoke with him about it. It took a lot of personal effort on my part to refrain from explaining to him that SGA means jack-all to any student who's not in SGA and that he was wasting his time on a bunch of drama for a glorified "lets play government" club.

My theory? The students who harassed her were the upper-1% of liberal extremist on campus. Those students also probably feel that they were harassed by her, because they all have the emotional capacity of 8 year olds and this is ironically part of the "game" they are all playing with each other.

Meanwhile all the normal kids go to class, drink, hangout, go to sporting events, and enjoy their college experience...

 

[IrishSteelhead]

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Meanwhile all the normal kids go to class, drink, hangout, go to sporting events, and enjoy their college experience...

This is an astoundingly accurate point, you just forgot sex and drugs, but I will assume that falls under the -enjoy their college experience- part.

Maybe also take out the -go to class- part.

I hardly give a shit about anything at 40, and couldnt imagine giving a shit about ANYTHING then.

 

[IrishLax]

Kassy Dillon sucks. She's sort of a loud mouth who puts herself out there and then gets triggered when the libs fight back.

I've literally never even heard of her.

 

[wizards8507]

I've literally never even heard of her.

She started a blog for conservative college students. "Lone Conservative."

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Culture

Heres what doesnt jive IMO:

Why did this girl choose to attend a smarmy, all-girls, LA college if she is so conservative? Of course she is going to be the outsider in that environment.

Sounds like what she is doing is being the crazy mom who wants to ban balloons or peanuts from school because HER child has a latex and peanut allergy.

This girl didnt deserve to be treated like shit, but is a textbook definition of a snowflake.

 

[wizards8507]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">caller on local sportstalk radio yesterday said in consecutive sentences "I'm tired of all the political correctness" and "I think these guys should have to stand and be respectful of the flag." &#55358;&#56631;*♂️</p>— Austin (@horsepire) <a href="https://twitter.com/horsepire/status/999626007773577216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Cackalacky]

This is what I was getting at with the above. College kids who get so wrapped up in their *cause* identities love to punch/play victim against college kids who do the same for the opposite ideology. It happens in most cliques. I remember I had a friend who was big into Student Government and you would have thought the other side was literally Stalin if you spoke with him about it. It took a lot of personal effort on my part to refrain from explaining to him that SGA means jack-all to any student who's not in SGA and that he was wasting his time on a bunch of drama for a glorified "lets play government" club.

My theory? The students who harassed her were the upper-1% of liberal extremist on campus. Those students also probably feel that they were harassed by her, because they all have the emotional capacity of 8 year olds and this is ironically part of the "game" they are all playing with each other.

Meanwhile all the normal kids go to class, drink, hangout, go to sporting events, and enjoy their college experience...

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[connor_in]

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[IrishLax]

Heres what doesnt jive IMO:

Why did this girl choose to attend a smarmy, all-girls, LA college if she is so conservative? Of course she is going to be the outsider in that environment.

Sounds like what she is doing is being the crazy mom who wants to ban balloons or peanuts from school because HER child has a latex and peanut allergy.

This girl didnt deserve to be treated like shit, but is a textbook definition of a snowflake.

Mt. Holyoke is located by Cornell.

 

[Legacy]

Trump admin - new rules on organizations that provide abortions

Trump admin - new rules on organizations that provide abortions

This could go under a number of our threads - Healthcare, Politics, Trump Admin, Midterm Elections, etc. But perhaps it best suited here.

How New Abortion Restrictions Would Affect Women’s Health Care

A Trump administration proposal to bar federally funded family planning facilities from providing or referring patients for abortions is aimed at forcing organizations like Planned Parenthood to make a simple choice: cease offering abortion services or lose some of their government money.

But the proposed rules, which the Department of Health and Human Services submitted Thursday night, have raised complicated questions about the fate of Planned Parenthood and other reproductive health organizations that provide both family planning and abortion services — and the potential health effects on women who depend on such providers for basic care.

At issue are the regulations surrounding Title X, the 1970 law that created the federal family planning program. The statute already bans direct funding of abortion, but many organizations that provide abortions, including Planned Parenthood, use Title X money to subsidize other women’s health services, such as dispensing birth control and providing cancer screenings. The proposal — a top priority of social conservatives who are staunch supporters of President Trump — seeks to end that commingling, or at least make it more difficult for reproductive health providers to do both.

To qualify for Title X money under the new policy, an organization would have to have “a bright line of physical as well as financial separation” between family planning programs and facilities where abortion is “performed, supported, or referred for as a method of family planning,”

Planned Parenthood and its supporters say the move would essentially bar the organization from receiving Title X funding, costing millions of women throughout the United States access to basic care, including contraceptives and screenings for cancer and sexually transmitted diseases. The organization says it has no intention of ceasing to provide abortions or referrals as part of its reproductive health services.

“This is a far-reaching attack and attempt to take away women’s basic rights and reproductive rights, period,” said Dawn Laguens, the group’s executive vice president and chief executive.

The new Trump plan to defund Planned Parenthood, explained (Vox)

It is true that Planned Parenthood is the country’s largest abortion provider. In 2009, the organization performed just over 330,000 abortions, about 40 percent of all abortions that year.

But it’s also true Planned Parenthood is a key part of the American health care safety net and one of the largest providers of contraceptives in the country. More than one-third of low-income women who get birth control through Title X currently do so at one of Planned Parenthood’s 817 clinics.

The best research we have suggests that if Planned Parenthood is cut out of the Title X program, there isn’t a backup option. Low-income women who use Title X services at these clinics likely will not have another place to turn for birth control — and unintended pregnancies could rise as a result.

Title X provides birth control to low-income women. Lots of those patients use Planned Parenthood.
Launched in 1971, Title X was meant to fulfill President Richard Nixon’s promise that “no American woman should be denied access to family planning assistance because of her economic condition.”

Title X does not, and has never, paid for abortions. Federal law prohibits any government dollars from paying for the termination of pregnancies. Organizations like Planned Parenthood often use Title X grants to subsidize birth control, STD screenings, and other reproductive health services for low-income patients who may lack health insurance coverage.

The program grew steadily over the past 40 years, from a $6 million budget in 1971 up to $286 million in 2017. In 2014, an estimated 4,100 clinics used Title X funding to provide low-cost or free contraception to their low-income patients, typically those who lacked health insurance coverage.

Many of those Title X patients seek care at Planned Parenthood clinics.

This is partially due to the fact that Planned Parenthood exists in many places where other family planning clinics don’t: A new analysis from the Guttmacher Institute estimates that there are 103 counties in the United States where Planned Parenthood is the only provider of publicly funded contraceptives. In an additional 229 counties, Planned Parenthood serves the majority of women who are low-income and qualify for government help paying for birth control.

For Women of Color, Access to Vital Health Services Is Threatened (Guttmacher Institute)

Across a broad range of issues, the policy priorities of the Trump administration and conservatives in Congress are likely to have a devastating impact on many Americans. One group at particular risk from current efforts to undo the Affordable Care Act (ACA), gut Medicaid and slash domestic programs are women of color, their families and communities.

Women of color have long experienced stark health disparities in areas like cervical and breast cancer, unintended pregnancy, and pregnancy-related complications. The root causes stem from a long history of racism and discrimination, including lack of access to high-quality, affordable health insurance and care and, for some, a lingering mistrust of the medical community. And yet, even in the face of these many challenges, women of color in recent years have seen marked improvements, such as increases in insurance coverage and declines in unintended pregnancy.

 

[NorthDakota]

Heartbroken that two thirds of all Irish people have decided to risk excommunication.

 

[Bluto]

A common talking point in many threads has been what a bunch of losers millennials are. About two weeks ago I worked as a crew leader/technical adviser on a volunteer trail building project. The majority of the volunteers were millennials and I have to say it was one of the best volunteer workday experiences I have been a part of. They worked hard, were polite and constructive when they did have questions about what we were doing. 1.5 miles of new trail were built in a local park. Score one for the millennials.

 

[NorthDakota]

A common taking point in many threads has been what a bunch of losers millennials are. About two weeks ago I worked as a crew leader/technical adviser on a volunteer trail building project. The majority of the volunteers were millennials and I have to say it was one of the best volunteer workday experiences I have been a part of. They worked hard, were polite and constructive when they did have questions about what we were doing. 1.5 miles of new trail were built in a local park. Score one for the millennials.

If the contribution 20-35 year olds can brag about at this point is being polite while volunteering we are not doing well as a group.

 

[Bluto]

If the contribution 20-35 year olds can brag about at this point is being polite while volunteering we are not doing well as a group.

Per usual you missed the point. 250 volunteers constructed 1.5 miles of new wilderness trial in about 4 hours at a local park for free, using hand tools. That included building features like rolling dips and rock walls.That saved the district a couple hundred k.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This could go under a number of our threads - Healthcare, Politics, Trump Admin, Midterm Elections, etc. But perhaps it best suited here.

You're aware that Guttmacher is Planned Parenthood's propaganda arm, no? Citing it's "research" isn't going to convince anyone who's not already in the tank for abortion.

Here's John McGuirk on why he voted against repealing Ireland's 8th amendment:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last week Ireland voted to repeal its abortion ban. One citizen, John McGuirk, was asked why he voted no. Powerful and insightful response.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/8thAmendment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#8thAmendment</a> <a href="https://t.co/39lvjfBlI1">pic.twitter.com/39lvjfBlI1</a></p>— Matt Smethurst (@MattSmethurst) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattSmethurst/status/1001616506956992517?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Legacy]

You're aware that Guttmacher is Planned Parenthood's propaganda arm, no? Citing it's "research" isn't going to convince anyone who's not already in the tank for abortion.

Here's John McGuirk on why he voted against repealing Ireland's 8th amendment:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last week Ireland voted to repeal its abortion ban. One citizen, John McGuirk, was asked why he voted no. Powerful and insightful response.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/8thAmendment?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#8thAmendment</a> <a href="https://t.co/39lvjfBlI1">pic.twitter.com/39lvjfBlI1</a></p>— Matt Smethurst (@MattSmethurst) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattSmethurst/status/1001616506956992517?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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It's your right to ignore the points about the loss of women's health care to those counties. I doubt your assertion about G and PP. Cite your research instead, if you can. I realize you look upon Planned Parenthood as solely an abortion provider. Otherwise, Guttmacher's stands. With the loss of those clinics, women in those areas face a tough alternative for their health.

 

[wizards8507]

With the loss of those clinics, women in those areas face a tough alternative for their health.

AT WORST, those women would lose their contraception. Contraception isn't healthcare.