COVID-19

[phork]

This video Is great. It tends to go to the Trump campaign at the end, but It explains things that are very easy to see, and understand.


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If nothing else comes out of this video... It's showing the divide our politicians and media has wanted for a long time.
It's not left or right. It's us.

Tends to go to the Trump campaign at the end? This whole thing is an ad for Trump, draining the swamp. Come on man do better.

This 25 minute video might be the difference between you staying healthy and getting sick. Stay healthy my friends. Do more thinking too....



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In the history of our fight against the flu, and them telling the restaurant owners to post handwashing techniques. We still fight the flu every day of our lives. Wonder why this virus Is different?

Couple points here. First, the intial Don't Wear a Mask edict was to stop a rush of masks from not being available to hospitals. Also as the virus spread and we learned, we changed our stances on things. Its what you do. When things aren't working you change.
Secondly, and most importantly, the masks shown DO NOT PROTECT YOU much if at all. But wearing a mask stops you from spreading the virus. Please refer to my urination meme previously posted for the idea since you have seemed to have forgotten.

I'm not completely sure about anything., and I don't think Obama did anything on purpose to hurt us as The American people.
BTW. Why don't you talk about Trudeau more.... LOL..
He's got medicare for all. Tell me how good that is up there.

I'm currently on board for it here. When I ask average everyday guys that just watch mainstream, they tell me we'll all be dead because the dr's won't get paid....?

I'm honestly curious.

Dr.s won't get paid? HUH? Why would someone go to school for umpteen years to not get paid? Does that make any fucking sense?

Our health care system is not perfect but the bottom line is that I am not going to bankrupt from having a heart attack or cancer. I can go to the Dr 100 times a day if I want to and it costs me zero out of pocket. (Yes I realize I pay income tax etc) If I break my arm I go the ER, I get an Xray, I get the bone repositioned, I get a cast and I go home.
Some procedures take time but rest assured if you need critical care you are going to get it.
Heres an example. My wife fell in the shower and busted up her shoulder. Waiting for an MRI here might take weeks or months depending severity etc. We actually went to the US and paid for one immediately. Had surgery scheduled immediately.
I am all for some private services being offered, like the MRI. It does 2 things. I get my results, if I want to pay out of pocket for them. AND it offloads the system. Win-Win in my book.

Finally. I'm seeing retractions from dr's that say they know.

We are all starting to see that we didn't know all along and the information that doctors where given was Class Consciously Criminal. The CCC; I just made that up. Prove me wrong.

Not sure what you are talking about here.

You don't want to wear a mask to help someone for a nominal cost, yet are onboard for subsidizing someones health care costs.

I didn't say that. Masks are the new union pension plan and your accusation isn't worth the time.... Especially since you can't explain medicare for all in Canada.

We are being forced to wear dirty masks. Of course I feel abused already.

We are being forced to wear dirty masks? Huh? Again please remember how these masks are being used. They are used to protect others from you, if you had the virus.

Heres the difference of why the US is failing. Your citizens are non-compliant. I trust Drs when they tell me stuff. I trust that my local health unit is giving me the information I need to keep me and my family safe. Look at the countries that have smashed the curve. Their leaders took the right steps and the people listened. In the US, where leadership is unavailable, people did what they wanted because this is Murica and you aint gonna tell me what to do. And they listened to their buddy whos degree is in crackhead.

Further to your Deep State bull shit. Please explain to me the End Game of the Soros conspiracy. Everyone is going to be a sex slave to armies of Epsteins. Obama is going to be tried for Treason. Whats the end game? Because if its indentured servitude I have news for you. We are already there. If you arent in the 1% of the 1% then thats you. There is no conspiracy. Systems are designed to keep money flowing in one direction.
I had a friend who like to smoke pot. His kid played for my football team. He didnt want a cell phone because it 3d imaged his house and sent it to the government for potential future raids. I got news for you. If you have a cell phone, credit card or whatever, youve already been tracked and your habits analyzed. You've been eavesdropped and determined to not be a threat to capitalism.

Thats the thing we these whack job conspiracy theories. No one has an answer as to how the end looks when the secret society wins.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Not sure what you are talking about here.

And just like that, Phork became a citizen of Circaworld.

 

[TorontoGold]

Props to Toronto for responding to some of these posts. You seriously just throw out a bunch of fecal residue hoping for something that sticks, backed by nothing other than another conspiracy theorists social media posting? You try to come off as the unbiased, unaltered, intellectual that sees through all the mainstream talking points (in theory something I would get on board with), but in reality you are essentially just another bot feeding doubt to every single story that exists. Use your head for once to cipher through the data/statistics. You go far to the extreme that it’s hard to understand why you debate the legitimacy of EVERYTHING just for the sake of it and with your only evidence being taking points that were mysteriously blackballed by social media outlets. We all know what the MSM is driven by..... doesn’t mean every detail that comes about is wrong. Do yourself a favor.. think more, post less. Or maybe, bizarrely, think less... Idk man.

I just want to see the stats behind hypoxia if masks are so deadly. Like did any of the people making these videos considered the years of experience with masks?

I swear we're a couple days away from seeing a "Patrick Bet-David interviews Randy Quaid on mental health" video in this thread.

 

[SonofOahu]

I don't post here much, but I'd like to share the following. Just a general response to the group.

I work for a big distributor of Medical devices and supplies. We absolutely knew that there was going to be a PPE shortage back in January. We began putting customers on what is called "allocation" which means all customers were permitted to buy only a percentage (70% at the start I believe) of their normal amount. Customers not previously having us as a vendor were not allowed to purchase at all. By April, we had staffed up and innovated a way to decontaminate the disposable facial coverings and N95 masks., and we sold hundreds of thousands We were blocked from being able to label these masks as anything more than "facial coverings" by the FDA. Perhaps there was a good reason for this, and perhaps it was political. I will also say have to say that Project Airbridge was valuable in cutting the timeline of the delivery of millions of masks. It's important to recognize that we use a lot of masks in this country! One hospital system (about 50 hospitals) that we supply uses 700,000 per day. For perspective, the reason this crisis was coming and everyone knew it is that there were and are mostly all produced in Wuhan. Whether the virus ever came to our shores or not, we were going to have a crisis. Manufacturers are very slow to make changes in process and distribution patterns. The Defense Production Act would have forced them to act and perhaps protected their losses that would have been incurred, but it was never used.

The reason that the message changed over time IMHO is obvious and it's unfortunate that it became politicized or still serves to confuse people. The PPE crisis was so acute when it started that the CDC and others were hesitant to recommend their widespread use because we didn't know how bad this shortage would get. Don't get me wrong, it got bad - and has recovered quite a bit, and I guess now it's coming back a bit - although I don't here as much about it internally. It's easy to look back now and see where the 'high water' mark of the shortage was, but in February, there was no way to predict that. They simply had to prioritize the most resources to those with the most acute demand. And if you don't believe that, you're really not gonna like it when you learn how a free market medical system works.

Of course a facial covering works. Mostly to protect others. The CDC was never confused about this, but leaders had to prioritize needs.

Masks work.
Anything works.
Some things work better than others.
Coughing into your elbow works.
Your mom taught you this.
But masks work.

Don't get confused by the politics. Even pre-Covid you would never consider a surgeon who doesn't use a mask. Think about that for a minute.

I missed this post, earlier, because anytime I see a bunch of Circa posts in a row I pass by them faster than a cat running through a rocking-chair factory. In any case, you're spot on, brother. Thanks for your work during these crazy times. It's like Christmas whenever our PPE shipments hit the dock.

 

[SonofOahu]

Hospital capacity isn't as good of an indicator of spread as you're implying. Many states shut down elective surgeries in March/April to create extra space to treat COVID-patients. That helped keep hospitals from hitting capacity.

Look at the testing levels right now - ~750,000 tests per day, 65,000 positive (positivity rate of 8.5%) vs. End of April - 275,000 test, 36,000 positive (positivity rate of 14.2%)
Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

I'm not saying it's not spreading - but its very important to note that when a testing increases three-fold there is naturally going to be an increase in cases (only two-fold in this case). If you assume (1) the disease spreads indiscriminately and (2) the testing distribution has been consistent over time, then the case positivity rate is the relevant metric - which had been declining over time (and is now increasing). I'm interested to understand your perspective a bit more.

The percent-positive rate was higher in April for two primary reasons:

1. The lack of tests led to very strict parameters on who could get tested
2. The test-kit approval protocols were much more strict; some of the tests currently in wide use are inconsistent

Look, I get what you're saying, and let me agree that there are a lot of variables out there when trying to figure out how to calculate and predict the spread. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at by pointing out that elective procedures were cancelled. Elective procedures, on their own, are never going to fill up a hospital. For one thing, a lot of elective procedures are done in outpatient settings and ASCs. Now, one thing we did see was a concurrent and dramatic drop in traumas and critical-care patients. Lockdowns meant people weren't getting hurt of having heart attacks and strokes as often.

This is how I view your last paragraph: your argument depends on the assumption that the two comparison groups (testing-time April and testing-time now) can show differences under standard research methodology. It can't. The two groups had a vastly different selection process, as stated above. That may be a really clumsy way of saying the two groups are different, but I think you can see where I'm going with that statement.

Here is the sure-fire way of confirming that COVID is spreading and your town/city is about to see a world of hurt: 1+1=2

Full ICUs + Reefers pulling into the parking lot = a lot of dead bodies

 

[SonofOahu]

I have a family member who got COVID in Seattle while it raged there. From their description of symptoms and diagnosis in the ER, I'm sure they met normal criteria for admission but were not, probably because the ER docs needed to save beds for even sicker patients. She got a call from the physician the next morning to check on her. Fortunately, she improved with Zithromax for her pneumonia. She came back COVID positive.

You've previously posted about the "hard decisions" that needed to be made during this pandemic. I can imagine this may be the situation in those states now seeing their surge. Without point of care testing, there's the chance a patient without COVID is admitted to a hospital full of those patients.

I think scaling back the RNC Convention in Jax to just the 2,500 delegates is a great move.

As far as masks,
Here are the states requiring masks in public


The other two factors to consider for the fall in Florida are their long term care facilities - if COVID hits there - and hurricane season.
Facts About Long Term Care In Florida (Florida Dept of Health)



Consideinrg those not admitted who would have been based on standards and diminishing bed availability does affect the hospitalization stats may make those difficult to compare.

Glad your family member did well.

Hawaii has been very fortunate, but we have a 27-page algorithmic triage plan at the ready. Our healthcare association spearheaded its creation so that all providers, across the system, can follow it. Hopefully it never comes to that.

 

[SonofOahu]

And just like that, Phork became a citizen of Circaworld.

I tried to rep you, but apparently I repped you too much over our shared appreciation of hot Indian women.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I tried to rep you, but apparently I repped you too much over our shared appreciation of hot Indian women.

Ha! It's appreciated, my friend.

 

[RDU Irish]

https://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html

Open the schools - kids are dying.

 

[RDU Irish]

https://www.cdc.gov/safechild/Poisoning/index.html

2 per day age 0-19 - dead. And that is with schools open - you think these kids left unattended are faring better with those parents lucky enough to have jobs left no choice but leaving them home alone? Or work from home distracted while Junior drinks bleach outside their home office?

School is much safer for the kids. And people under age 35 are about 10x more likely to die in a car accident. This is a Boomer Doomer - isolate those REALLY at risk and get back to work folks. Of course this can only be said on an anonymous internet board - anyone focused on logic and science publicly is skewered.

Closing schools is an outlier position fueled by teachers unions angling for more funding and destroying Trump. Simple solution - offer remote to anyone who wants it with full understanding that the school is fully opening. I bet less than 10% of parents would opt for remote learning. My body my choice right?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Unsure if this helps the discussion at all, but here are some conclusion statements from a poll from the Learning Heroes organization about the schools and distant learning:


"Families are aware of the strain pandemic-related closures have put on teachers and schools and are giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, Hubbard says. Parents are worried, according to the poll, but 75 percent are hopeful and almost as many are grateful."

"Two-thirds of parents say they are more connected to their child’s education, and 70 percent want to know what material their child is missing at the end of the current school year and how their school will make that learning up. Concern is significantly higher among parents of color and low-income parents, who were overrepresented by the surveyors"

"New Poll: Two-Thirds of Parents Support Keeping Schools Closed ‘Until They Are Certain There Is No Health Risk’ "

"The National Parents Union found that 81 percent of those surveyed believe that students and staff who may have been exposed to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 should be required to stay home for 14 days; 79 percent want schools to notify parents of possible exposure; 70 percent want face masks, and 76 percent want schools to provide online learning technology at the start of the year, in case new closures occur."




As a lifetime in-class teacher, I do believe that education (for the general student with the average parents) is much better done face-to-face person-to-person with the possibility of immediacy in response to correct significant errors and keep igniting flare-ups of curiosity. Occasional priceless mentorship also grows that way. But these are dangerous health times, so I get the distant learning (for a while) plan.

 

[ClausentoTate]

Are you saying that teachers are faking their worry about the virus to get back at Trump somehow? If he did a 180 do you honestly think teachers would be upset that he doesn't want to expose millions of kids, teachers and parents? Kids and teachers will die and exponential growth is a real thing... and even if kids don't die they will take it home. There is no safe way to fully reopen and the current safety protocols in my wife's district are basically pipe dreams that wouldn't stop the spread even if by a miracle they were achieved.

It's just math. Expose more people, more people die, the longer we have to do this song and dance.

 

[goldandblue]

Are you saying that teachers are faking their worry about the virus to get back at Trump somehow? If he did a 180 do you honestly think teachers would be upset that he doesn't want to expose millions of kids, teachers and parents? Kids and teachers will die and exponential growth is a real thing... and even if kids don't die they will take it home. There is no safe way to fully reopen and the current safety protocols in my wife's district are basically pipe dreams that wouldn't stop the spread even if by a miracle they were achieved.

It's just math. Expose more people, more people die, the longer we have to do this song and dance.

Many of the districts in my area are offering options. Online vs onsite. I will say in my hometown it is probably 90% to 10% in favor of going back to school onsite. My wife is also a teacher at the high school level.

Are they giving options in your area?

 

[BeauBenken]

I want to go back to normalcy like everyone else, but we are like 4-5 months from getting people vaccinated.


Kids are going to have to be doing remote learning. I just don't see how it doesn't happen. Even if you open the schools, as soon as a student or teacher tests positive, the building will close down temporarily and schooling will be done online. What's the bother if you're not sure when your kid might be able to go to school or not.


Meanwhile putting teachers and kids back in school is essentially just saying "fuck it, I need to go back to work." Like, first we aren't going to adequately fund schools and pay teachers, but next we're going to tell them to put their lives at risk because you really need a babysitter?


And here's another thing, teachers are not being given a voice/choice for the most part. Even in districts (locally to me) teachers are being told that even if no kids are in the building, they will be. Teachers are being given choices on different daily schedules, but nothing that truly allows you to safely social distance...or better yet, teach a class!


Sending kids back to school will hardly be "normal". It will be a shit show most likely.

 

[RDU Irish]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-questions-raised-after-fatal-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-covid-19-death
DEADLY

and math
https://twitter.com/BenMarten/status/1283974620589076480

 

[RDU Irish]

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1283863658389479427/photo/1

99% of deaths of people under 25 are from SOMETHING ELSE over the last five months. (and let's not forget the important distinction of WITH versus OF).

There have been a total of 14 deaths with COVID reported among children age 5 to 14 since February 1. During the same time period (which started *after* the peak of flu season) that age group had 47 flu deaths and 72 pneumonia deaths. 3x more likely to die from flu and 5x more likely to die of pneumonia for those kids. 160 days probably would average over 300 kids drowning to death in pools and another 300 poisoned to death. 20X worse problem - zero hand wringing.

People realize that 997 out of 1000 people who test positive get over it? And two of those three have already beaten the average US life expectancy? That is with the Kevorkian measures taken in five states in nursing homes. Of the things that I worry about killing me this is pretty damn low on the list and the MATH in the linked chart fully supports my take.

 

[Irish#1]

Unsure if this helps the discussion at all, but here are some conclusion statements from a poll from the Learning Heroes organization about the schools and distant learning:


"Families are aware of the strain pandemic-related closures have put on teachers and schools and are giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, Hubbard says. Parents are worried, according to the poll, but 75 percent are hopeful and almost as many are grateful."

"Two-thirds of parents say they are more connected to their child’s education, and 70 percent want to know what material their child is missing at the end of the current school year and how their school will make that learning up. Concern is significantly higher among parents of color and low-income parents, who were overrepresented by the surveyors"

"New Poll: Two-Thirds of Parents Support Keeping Schools Closed ‘Until They Are Certain There Is No Health Risk’ "

"The National Parents Union found that 81 percent of those surveyed believe that students and staff who may have been exposed to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 should be required to stay home for 14 days; 79 percent want schools to notify parents of possible exposure; 70 percent want face masks, and 76 percent want schools to provide online learning technology at the start of the year, in case new closures occur."




As a lifetime in-class teacher, I do believe that education (for the general student with the average parents) is much better done face-to-face person-to-person with the possibility of immediacy in response to correct significant errors and keep igniting flare-ups of curiosity. Occasional priceless mentorship also grows that way. But these are dangerous health times, so I get the distant learning (for a while) plan.

That statement speaks volumes. Glad to see parents reintroducing themselves to their kids education. I think most would agree online learning is a poor substitute for being in class for the reasons you point out.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Unsure if this helps the discussion at all, but here are some conclusion statements from a poll from the Learning Heroes organization about the schools and distant learning:


"Families are aware of the strain pandemic-related closures have put on teachers and schools and are giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, Hubbard says. Parents are worried, according to the poll, but 75 percent are hopeful and almost as many are grateful."

"Two-thirds of parents say they are more connected to their child’s education, and 70 percent want to know what material their child is missing at the end of the current school year and how their school will make that learning up. Concern is significantly higher among parents of color and low-income parents, who were overrepresented by the surveyors"

"New Poll: Two-Thirds of Parents Support Keeping Schools Closed ‘Until They Are Certain There Is No Health Risk’ "

"The National Parents Union found that 81 percent of those surveyed believe that students and staff who may have been exposed to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 should be required to stay home for 14 days; 79 percent want schools to notify parents of possible exposure; 70 percent want face masks, and 76 percent want schools to provide online learning technology at the start of the year, in case new closures occur."




As a lifetime in-class teacher, I do believe that education (for the general student with the average parents) is much better done face-to-face person-to-person with the possibility of immediacy in response to correct significant errors and keep igniting flare-ups of curiosity. Occasional priceless mentorship also grows that way. But these are dangerous health times, so I get the distant learning (for a while) plan.

Most schools are giving parents the option to have their kids stay home and learn from computer. So if you want to keep them home, keep them home.

 

[SaltyND24]

My district, prior to today, gave parents the option for traditional, remote (distance), or independent study...However, with the numbers growing and LAUSD stating they would be full distance for the fall, our district decided to follow suit. I don't so much mind it, but it definitely is difficult to keep tabs as a teacher on 160 students in this fashion.

Mother is 60, a teacher, and for the better part of the last month has been terrified to go back to work. I can't blame her or anyone who is hesitant to return to work. Only thing worse than distance learning is a substitute teacher..

 

[IrishSteelhead]

COVID-19

Most schools are giving parents the option to have their kids stay home and learn from computer. So if you want to keep them home, keep them home.

I work in Ed, but still havent heard an answer to this question:

Can my kid stay enrolled in kindergarten until they go into the building, and NOT do the virtual stuff?

IMO, school districts have to be high AF if they think parents are staying home from work, so a 5 year old can watch videos of a lady talking to them with a puppet made out of a mop for 2-3 hours a day.

She will be going to daycare, while we go to work, even if that means withdrawing from school, and re-enrolling when the smoke clears.


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[arahop]

https://www.cdc.gov/safechild/Poisoning/index.html

2 per day age 0-19 - dead. And that is with schools open - you think these kids left unattended are faring better with those parents lucky enough to have jobs left no choice but leaving them home alone? Or work from home distracted while Junior drinks bleach outside their home office?

School is much safer for the kids. And people under age 35 are about 10x more likely to die in a car accident. This is a Boomer Doomer - isolate those REALLY at risk and get back to work folks. Of course this can only be said on an anonymous internet board - anyone focused on logic and science publicly is skewered.

Closing schools is an outlier position fueled by teachers unions angling for more funding and destroying Trump. Simple solution - offer remote to anyone who wants it with full understanding that the school is fully opening. I bet less than 10% of parents would opt for remote learning. My body my choice right?

So just a ploy to get more funding and to destroy Donny boy? nah.

 

[Legacy]

Our school system started out with the plan of splitting students in half with the first half going M&T with W being a day for janitors doing a thorough clean. The other half would go Th&F .

Now they have switched to the first half going one week, off the second week when the second half goes to school.

On-line learning for the days the students are home. Cleaning of the classrooms will be done on the weekend.

We're back to Phase 1 with many businesses extending their work at home. No elective surgeries. Gig workers are most affected, though hospitals have cut back their healthcare workers. Those may be called in when we move to Phase 2 and if healthcare facilities and offices don't decide to cut losses and hire back gradually. All that affects parents with the school schedules. Also, stimulus checks end July 31st with last checks effectively ends next week on July 25 or 26. Paycheck Protection loans end at the end of the month. Mortgage forbearance for federal loans ends when?

 

[Circa]

Props to Toronto for responding to some of these posts. You seriously just throw out a bunch of fecal residue hoping for something that sticks, backed by nothing other than another conspiracy theorists social media posting? You try to come off as the unbiased, unaltered, intellectual that sees through all the mainstream talking points (in theory something I would get on board with), but in reality you are essentially just another bot feeding doubt to every single story that exists. Use your head for once to cipher through the data/statistics. You go far to the extreme that it’s hard to understand why you debate the legitimacy of EVERYTHING just for the sake of it and with your only evidence being taking points that were mysteriously blackballed by social media outlets. We all know what the MSM is driven by..... doesn’t mean every detail that comes about is wrong. Do yourself a favor.. think more, post less. Or maybe, bizarrely, think less... Idk man.

I'll never stop thinking. I'm not into following. Never been a follower, and I'll be dead before I have to follow in this time... I'm sure that'll get a twitter like response also.

I know Drago is still out here in the atmosphere... I also know he won't outright take my side and I like that. He might give a better way of understanding then I can. (better at the words)
Come back LAX!
Edit: I say that only because i respect his opinion most of the time and he is capable of stating the facts without much opinion. I wish i personally knew a lot of you on here. I have a man crush on LAX... lol. /JK.
Just wanna see what him and other healthy posters have to think about this odd time.







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[Sea Turtle]

I wonder how much of this is going on nationwide? SIAP

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/f...tal-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-covid-19-death

 

[JurDocDuLac]

I'll never stop thinking. I'm not into following. Never been a follower, and I'll be dead before I have to follow in this time... I'm sure that'll get a twitter like response also.

Circa, look at what you just posted in the Scheduling Options thread:
You responded directly to another poster expanding on their post, contributed your own interesting point of view and enlightened the thread
- and all coherently and without an in-your-face gif/video.

You showed that you can respect the other members and respect their contribution while still getting your opinion out, Circa.
No need to drown out everybody else´s contributions all the time.
Right?

 

[Circa]

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[Circa]

I wonder how much of this is going on nationwide? SIAP

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/f...tal-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-covid-19-death

I'm glad you posted this. This is a recurring issue.
Most,.... want to say I'm a conspiracy theorist. This has been happening everywhere, every day.
It's absolutely criminal and I'm sorry I have to throw facts out to the masses around here.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm glad you posted this. This is a recurring issue.
Most,.... want to say I'm a conspiracy theorist. This has been happening everywhere, every day.
It's absolutely criminal and I'm sorry I have to throw facts out to the masses around here.

If you've got the stats on the % of motorcycle crashes counted as COVID deaths please share, I'd be curious to know the true percentages.

 

[Sea Turtle]

If you've got the stats on the % of motorcycle crashes counted as COVID deaths please share, I'd be curious to know the true percentages.

It's not just that one motorcycle accident. It's proof of just how far they will stretch to make a death a covid death. You think this is the only incident of someone dying from something clearly not covid but lumped in just because they had it?

Did you know that thousands of people have signed up for a covid test, saw how long the wait was and just left, only to be called and told their test was positive?

I'm not sure anyone knows what to believe anymore.

 

[ARALOU]

Does that mean that the "line" got mixed up? Sort of like a drive through at McDonald's? People out there with a #2 when they think they have a #1 combo?