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It's intertesting that he would use shit hole as a term for North Dakota compared to California when they are literally shitting in the street in California and have tent cities the size of large towns.

Didn’t people absolutely lose their minds when the president used the EXACT term to describe certain countries? Pot meet kettle

I’m sure it’ll be explained as unintended hyperbole or whatever, but it is telling how the elite people feel about those beneath them. I also get the, “well he’s the president and should be held to a higher standard” argument. However the people that hate the president should be above him morally and should be better than him..........
 
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lol our "soldiers" are much better at shoveling then actual combat, I'm sure of it.

Might as well put them to work lol.. My buddy in Toronto was telling me about it.

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Might as well put them to work lol.. My buddy in Toronto was telling me about it.

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lol what a joke. Honestly, they did absolutely nothing to help with that snowfall.

There was talk of getting them to help with COVID testing, but Ontario is currently only using like 30% of our testing capacity right now. Also good ol'Doug Ford (brother of crack pipe smoking Rob Ford) is saying he doesn't want American's crossing the border into Ontario despite what Trump is saying about opening the border. Would love to see what nickname Trump could come up for him.
 

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lol what a joke. Honestly, they did absolutely nothing to help with that snowfall.

There was talk of getting them to help with COVID testing, but Ontario is currently only using like 30% of our testing capacity right now. Also good ol'Doug Ford (brother of crack pipe smoking Rob Ford) is saying he doesn't want American's crossing the border into Ontario despite what Trump is saying about opening the border. Would love to see what nickname Trump could come up for him.

I wish our reserves and NG would do stuff like that honestly. At least get some use out of them from time to time.
 

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Gilead Gains on Report Claiming Coronavirus Drug Effectiveness
Bloomberg
Drew Armstrong
BloombergApril 16, 2020

(Bloomberg) -- Gilead Sciences Inc. shares climbed in late trading Thursday after a report that a group of patients being treated in Chicago were “seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms.”

The report, from the medical news publication Stat, cited a video made by a researcher at the University of Chicago who is helping conduct a trial of Gilead’s drug remdesivir. The researcher, infectious disease professor Kathleen Mullane, said that most patients had been discharged from the hospital and only two had died, according to Stat.

Gilead’s drug is one of the most-watched therapies being studied for treatment of Covid-19 patients. It’s conducting two trials of the drug in moderate and severe patients, with the goal of enrolling 4,000 people in the trials. The University of Chicago enrolled 125 patients, most of whom had severe disease, according to Stat.

Shares of the company surged 10% in trading after the market closed.

The Chicago results are a tiny but promising sliver of the overall trial. Almost all patients recover from the disease, which has made it important to conduct tests which compare treatments against a placebo. While the trial in moderate patients contains a placebo group, Gilead’s trial of severe patients does not.

Mullane didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. Researchers have collected information from the first 400 patients enrolled in the trial and Gilead plans to “lock” the data on Thursday, meaning the results could come soon, Stat said.
 

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Crus might be able to get a shot off against these folks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nuns playing basketball at a monastery in Sevilla, Spain while sheltered in place for the coronavirus. Hoops makes the world go around.<a href="https://t.co/53oKV5GnNU">pic.twitter.com/53oKV5GnNU</a></p>— Michael Dolan (@mikedolanny) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikedolanny/status/1250759734300495872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Some interesting stats out of NYC:

Out of 6,839 confirmed deaths from COVID, 5,151 had underlying conditions. From age 0-74, there was 712 deaths from people with no underlying conditions for a death rate of 0.6%.

What is considered "underlying conditions"? I know a lot of people that are very healthy but may be taking medication for high blood pressure or high cholesterol. Things that are hereditary. I'd say 80% or more of people over 60 have something. Just curious what the criteria is.
 

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The whole testing debacle is so frustrating. Birx expanded on the issues this evening, and it made me want to smack my head on the wall lol. Many states have zero clue where their own testing is. Birx said we have a million + capacity per week not being used. She talked about basically having to spoon feed folks where testing was available. Said tests and equipment are just sitting there in a lot of places. WTF.
 

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Even as we return to normal life, COVID-19 is not going away, and we will have to adjust to outbreaks and hot spots. Hawaii has gone from curve to flat line, but there are still pockets of concern. Maui's only hospital is the center of about 60-70 positive cases. Not large compared to big cities, but potentially devastating to a rural hospital, especially the only one on island.

My hospital currently has about 30 employees in the testing protocol. Again, not a large number for someone like Henry Ford Health System, but a potentially crushing caseload for a small provider. I take my temp about 6x a day, at this point. I think everyone does.

Getting back to real life is going to be really interesting. "Regular" patient volumes are so low, my facility may go bankrupt by August. We had a "come to Jesus" discussion, today, about what our survival plans are going to look like. ("Survival plans" means layoffs and furloughs.) I think it was RDU who said hospital administrators just want to "make their lives easier" or something to that effect, when discussing lockdowns. That's a pretty funny comment, bruh.


Just curious... Are people so healthy that they aren't dying, so the government can't enforce a mandate "all deaths are Covid"?? Or Is this weird testing thing being enacted?
 
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I was out of available work for 3 months and Yea It was hard....
The only good thing about this fake pandemic crap is the socialist government BS that has allowed me to ZOOM and they DR's are not asking for a dime...
 

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I know there Is a Racist term for this and I'm In no way a racist,... But why does an Asain film win an Oscar right before this outbreak?

Also,... Why did so many films play on the tube about the end of the world right before 9/11?

It's a good time for people to start thinking, instead of listening.
 

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No sports. I've accepted that there will probably not be a college football season this year, or at least not one like we're used to. I've begun watching classic games on YouTube. Some of Bama's greatest games, a couple of Super Bowls, some classic CFB matchups, some epic NFL games... not a bad substitute. Knowing the outcome doesn't seem to take away from the enjoyment of reliving those moments.
 

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What is considered "underlying conditions"? I know a lot of people that are very healthy but may be taking medication for high blood pressure or high cholesterol. Things that are hereditary. I'd say 80% or more of people over 60 have something. Just curious what the criteria is.

[1] Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease.

I only have 8 of those.


https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths-04152020-1.pdf


Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
Daily Data Summary BY NYC HEALTH
The data in this report reflect events and activities as of April 14, 2020 at 6:00 PM.

All data in this report are preliminary and subject to change as cases continue to be investigated.
These data include cases in NYC residents and foreign residents treated in NYC facilities.
This table shows only confirmed deaths. A death is considered confirmed when the person had a positive COVID-19 laboratory test

There's a table with breakdown by age cohorts and underlying conditions.
 

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Nebraska Air National Guardsmen collecting samples in Grand Island.

Grand Island (in Hall County), Nebraska is a COVID hotspot with the number of cases exceeding those in Douglas County (Omaha).Over 571,000 people live in Douglas and over 61,000 live in Hall county. On a per capita basis, Hall has ten times as many novel coronavirus cases. Grand Island is home to a massive JBS USA meat packing plant which employs over 3,600 people. JBS USA is the American subsidiary of the world’s largest processor of fresh beef and pork owned by a Brazilian corporation.

JBS has closed two of its seven US meat processing plants - in Pennsylvania and in Colorado due to employees testing positive. In the Greeley, Co plant 43 employees tested positive for the virus. Of that number, 14 have been hospitalized and two workers have died. For now the Nebraska plant remains open. Grand Island is home also to a number of other large production plants where employees work closely together. While small businesses and restaurants were ordered closed, food processing plants are deemed essential businesses and remain open unless closed by the company.

The National Guard is doing much of the testing and data shows that 35% of those tested in Grand Island have the virus. The statewide average is 7.65%.

The county health administrator emphasized how quickly the virus has spread in her community, saying that the infection rate is probably much higher than 35%. She said:
“Because we have community spread of the virus, our assumption is it is actually everywhere we are. It will be in places of employment, in places of recreation, in places of shopping, all places.”

Forty workers or residents at nine long-term care facilities or home health agencies in Hall County have also tested positive for the novel coronavirus, which had its first confirmed case on March 26th.

St. Francis, the Grand Island hospital, have had enough time to erect a negative-pressure respiratory care unit in a tent outside the emergency room and could add 28 beds, expanding to a capacity of 157 beds, to care for additional patients when the hospital no longer has available beds.

At a press briefing Wednesday, the hospital administrator said three people at St. Francis were on ventilators for breathing support for the coronavirus one week ago. That number has now risen to 17, including all those in their ICU. At least seven COVID-19 patients this week have been transferred to other hospitals, including ones in Omaha.

Health officials hope that the peak will be in a week or two, but the prevalence of the virus and the large percentage of the local population that works in close contact with each other and the community spread to nursing homes, home healthcare facilities and other businesses make predictions difficult.

Thirty percent of Grand Island's residents are immigrants, attracted to processing jobs which many Americans will not do. In Feb, Nebraska's unemployment rate was 2.9%.

The National Guard members testing above are part of the Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive Enhanced Response Force Package (CERFP) team.
 
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I know there Is a Racist term for this and I'm In no way a racist,... But why does an Asain film win an Oscar right before this outbreak?

Also,... Why did so many films play on the tube about the end of the world right before 9/11?

It's a good time for people to start thinking, instead of listening.

There are movies about the end of the world on TV and in the theaters basically every day lol.

And Parasite was a film with different subject matter... I'd start 'thinking' instead of 'listening' had this pandemic resulted in the wealthy suffering at the hands of the poor for any reason.
 

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So the states that you said had tyrannical blue govs, the worst things they've done are propose a fine for breaking the stay at home order and suggest no large gatherings till a vaccine is found. How are these inconsistent with what is being done in other countries around the world?

I'm curious on what your suggested approach would be for these states then, also do you think it was a good idea for those people to protest yesterday?

Don't be a clown. I said some of them are really enjoying their newfound powers during a pandemic. Fining people for going outside? Requiring people to wear masks in public? Here in PA, Dairy Queen is open but the liquor stores are closed. It's moronic, and the sad part is these "steps" are now being elevated even though we're on the back end of this thing.

Ever notice that these politicians are completely unaffected by the policies they put in place? Has that reality ever hit you?
 

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Don't be a clown. I said some of them are really enjoying their newfound powers during a pandemic. Fining people for going outside? Requiring people to wear masks in public? Here in PA, Dairy Queen is open but the liquor stores are closed. It's moronic, and the sad part is these "steps" are now being elevated even though we're on the back end of this thing.

Ever notice that these politicians are completely unaffected by the policies they put in place? Has that reality ever hit you?

I asked you for examples of tyrannical moves by them, and then asked if those were truly tyrannical. Don't get mad because that's all you thought of lol.

Those moves are being implemented all over the world, though. I'm wondering why it should be any different for those states.

Not sure what in my responses gave you the impression that I'm some kind of politician apologist or cheerleader.
 

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Don't be a clown. I said some of them are really enjoying their newfound powers during a pandemic. Fining people for going outside? Requiring people to wear masks in public? Here in PA, Dairy Queen is open but the liquor stores are closed. It's moronic, and the sad part is these "steps" are now being elevated even though we're on the back end of this thing.

Ever notice that these politicians are completely unaffected by the policies they put in place? Has that reality ever hit you?

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If the IHME model is this statistically flawed, the White House doesn’t need to be using it for planning when to open back up the US economy.



https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/04/14/us-covid-19-deaths-poorly-predicted-by-ihme-model.html

Just WOW

“IHME's model gives 95 percent prediction intervals for the number of deaths in each state. If the uncertainty is estimated correctly then we would expect that 95 percent of states to have actual values lie in those intervals,” she said.

“But we don’t. In fact, only 30 percent of US states have actual death counts which lie within the 95 percent prediction intervals, while 70 percent lie outside that interval. So either the uncertainty is under-estimated or the point estimate is inaccurate, or both” she said.
 

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And this isn’t some non-accredited cabal that is just hating on a projection they dont’ like. It includes the Univ of Sydney, Northwestern U & The University of Texas. But God forbid actual statisticians point out the obvious flaws of a statistical projection b/c it doesn’t support the lockdown.
 

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The models have been shown to be flawed but the premise of "flattening the curve" with social distancing is universally agreed upon. If you don't support some sort of lockdown then you think the entire world has it wrong save a handful of outlier countries. OK.. I guess. Everyone can have an opinion, but it doesn't make it right.
 

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I asked you for examples of tyrannical moves by them, and then asked if those were truly tyrannical. Don't get mad because that's all you thought of lol.

Those moves are being implemented all over the world, though. I'm wondering why it should be any different for those states.

Not sure what in my responses gave you the impression that I'm some kind of politician apologist or cheerleader.

Americans don't take well to big government and being told where they can and can't go freely. Citizens in MI aren't protesting because they didn't get enough stimulus money. They're protesting because the governor is threatening to fine people for going outside.

Do you think these governors are going 7-8 weeks without having someone take care of their haircuts, nails, etc.? Not a chance, because that's only what "the people" have to do.
 

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Americans don't take well to big government and being told where they can and can't go freely. Citizens in MI aren't protesting because they didn't get enough stimulus money. They're protesting because the governor is threatening to fine people for going outside.

Do you think these governors are going 7-8 weeks without having someone take care of their haircuts, nails, etc.? Not a chance, because that's only what "the people" have to do.

I guess my point is, if these people can't see what's happening around the world and that other countries are implementing those measures - why do they believe it should be any different for them?

Trust me, I don't think politicians play by the same rules that "the people" do.
 

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The models have been shown to be flawed but the premise of "flattening the curve" with social distancing is universally agreed upon. If you don't support some sort of lockdown then you think the entire world has it wrong save a handful of outlier countries. OK.. I guess. Everyone can have an opinion, but it doesn't make it right.

Sorry, let me clarify. Of course, there needs to be something in place to “flatten the curve”. And yes, everyone agrees there is not enough data to get a clear projection. What these experts are saying is that the IMHE model is WILDLY inaccurate....(vs simply flawed). And to further the point, nowhere in the Sydney report did it NOT support social distancing.

Personally, I find it disturbing that people have zero interest in exploring a projection of the effects on the US economy. It’s likely b/c those particular people are in no threat of losing their livelihood. There’s people missing possible cancer diagnoses or prevention of MIs b/c their procedures are deemed non-essential. People don’t just die from COVID and the indirect deaths from this is going to multiply by the thousands.
 
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I'm not going to any protest, North Dakota is a very well run state that A.) doesn't have many cases, B.) doesn't receive much traffic from places that have been hit hard, and C.) has only taken very modest measures so far.


That's because no one lives in North Dakota.
 

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No sports. I've accepted that there will probably not be a college football season this year, or at least not one like we're used to. I've begun watching classic games on YouTube. Some of Bama's greatest games, a couple of Super Bowls, some classic CFB matchups, some epic NFL games... not a bad substitute. Knowing the outcome doesn't seem to take away from the enjoyment of reliving those moments.

Make sure to watch the '73 Sugar Bowl.
 

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I know there Is a Racist term for this and I'm In no way a racist,... But why does an Asain film win an Oscar right before this outbreak?

Also,... Why did so many films play on the tube about the end of the world right before 9/11?

It's a good time for people to start thinking, instead of listening.

Don't you know this pandemic was created by the Hollywood elite so they could make a blockbuster film about this? They already have three sequels planned after the release of the first.
 
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