Conspiracy Theories

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We had a fun little derailment in the Covid-19 thread about conspiracy theories. It would be fun to hear about the conspiracy theories you all either believe in or just find oddly compelling. So put on your tin foil hats and cue the theme music for "The X-Files." Here's one to start.

The conventional wisdom about the introduction of New Coke in the 80s was that Pepsi was getting increasingly popular, especially with those taste test challenge commercials. Coke created New Coke with a flavor profile that was closer to Pepsi to fight against their losing market share. It was a disaster on every level for Coca-Cola, which soon scraped New Coke and put the original Coke back out. I worked for a franchise bottling group for Coca-Cola at one point (not during the New Coke thing) and a sales rep there told me the real story. He said that Coca-Cola had been planning to change their formula for Coke for a while but knew there'd be backlash. They didn't want to necessarily make it taste like Pepsi, they just wanted to tweak the recipe a bit. I don't remember the reason he gave, maybe something to do with wanting to use more cost-effective ingredients. His story was that Coca-Cola put out New Coke which was such a big swing away from their original formula that people would forget exactly what the original Coke tasted like. So when Coca-Cola put the real Coke back out there, with the modified recipe, it would be close enough to the original version that people who had been drinking New Coke for months wouldn't know the difference. This is also the reason why the flagship soda is called Coca-Cola Classic, instead of just Coca-Cola. Since it isn't technically the original recipe, it needed a different name. I don't believe it. I support the Occam's Razor theory in this case; there are plenty of instances of big companies trying to re-invent themselves in response to a hot new competitor with terrible results. Coke wanted to be more like Pepsi, and they screwed the pooch with New Coke. At least, that's what they want you to believe, sheeple!
 

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JFK's driver killed him.

Also, on the topic of conspiracies, check out Q: Into The Storm. It's pretty crazy what people will devoutly believe because they read something on the internet.
 

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....are as American as school shootings and getting drunk on Cinco de Mayo.
 

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Mine is one most, if not all, of you have never heard about. It’s referred to as “The Boys on the Tracks” for the two teenagers who were murdered in a drug dealing coverup in a small community. It showed the incompetence of the state ME, the corruption of the local police and gov’t and even had ties to Iran-Contra/Barry Seal/etc. There’s a great 4 part podcast on it for those of you who enjoy a good pod.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/boys-on-the-tracks-part-1-93/id1062418176?i=1000383255399
 

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That the Clintons have had a bunch of people killed. Maybe not all of the suspicious deaths that are linked to them, but some of them.

Also, Epstein didn't kill himself.
 

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Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Sammy Davis jr did a week-long stint at Villa Venice, an unremarkable nightclub in Chicago in late 1962. This was at the height of their fame, when they were selling out the biggest venues in the country. The nightclub was owned by Chicago Outfit boss Sam Giancana. Word is that Sinatra did the gig to pay back Giancana for stealing Cook County, and therefore Illinois, for SInatra's pal JFK in the 1960 election.
 

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Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Sammy Davis jr did a week-long stint at Villa Venice, an unremarkable nightclub in Chicago in late 1962. This was at the height of their fame, when they were selling out the biggest venues in the country. The nightclub was owned by Chicago Outfit boss Sam Giancana. Word is that Sinatra did the gig to pay back Giancana for stealing Cook County, and therefore Illinois, for SInatra's pal JFK in the 1960 election.

This was a classic and many believe there was truth to it. It was an extremely close vote. As we’ve seen in today’s environment, the loser of that close of an election was not going to go away quietly. One of the few things I credit Nixon with is conceding the loss to avoid disruption & division in America. Can u imagine social media & camera phones back then?!?
 

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This was a classic and many believe there was truth to it. It was an extremely close vote. As we’ve seen in today’s environment, the loser of that close of an election was not going to go away quietly. One of the few things I credit Nixon with is conceding the loss to avoid disruption & division in America. Can u imagine social media & camera phones back then?!?

I'd pay real money to see what Nixon's Twitter feed would be like. LBJ's would probably be a hoot, as well.
 

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That the Clintons have had a bunch of people killed. Maybe not all of the suspicious deaths that are linked to them, but some of them.

Also, Epstein didn't kill himself.

Neither of these are conspiracies. I refused to do the 23&me thing forever fearing I would be a perfect kidney match for Bill Clinton or Bill Gates or some other d-bag overlord.
 

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That the Clintons have had a bunch of people killed. Maybe not all of the suspicious deaths that are linked to them, but some of them.

Also, Epstein didn't kill himself.

Speaking of, what are some good left wing conspiracies? I hear all the right wing stuff due to where I live. What are the lefties talking about?
 

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Speaking of, what are some good left wing conspiracies? I hear all the right wing stuff due to where I live. What are the lefties talking about?

Chemtrails. All my crunchy granola rural friends won't shut up about them. Started noticing it around 2008 and it kills the vibe every time.
 

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maybe is widely accepted as fact now but jordon had to ""retire" from his gambling issues and theres some out there that believe his dad was killed as retribution for his debts.
 

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another one that is interesting is that the internet rumors were going wild on Walt Disney's head being frozen so they created the movie "Frozen" so redirect all web searches.
 

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another one that is interesting is that the internet rumors were going wild on Walt Disney's head being frozen so they created the movie "Frozen" so redirect all web searches.

I was around 13 when he died. Right after Walt Disney died we were hearing rumors that he was frozen (not just his head) until a cure could be found.
 

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maybe is widely accepted as fact now but jordon had to ""retire" from his gambling issues and theres some out there that believe his dad was killed as retribution for his debts.

I learned what point shaving was when my uncle swore up and down during one of the Bulls' playoff series that Jordan was intentionally missing shots to keep the score down because he had money on the game.
 

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“Conspiracy The Secret History - Secret Heartbeat of America - The CIA And Drugs”. Check it out now on Prime Video.

Now this ^^^ is a conspiracy theory...and, if true, one of the few times that Reps & Dems successfully worked together
 

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“Conspiracy The Secret History - Secret Heartbeat of America - The CIA And Drugs”. Check it out now on Prime Video.

Now this ^^^ is a conspiracy theory...and, if true, one of the few times that Reps & Dems successfully worked together

That there gives it away as a conspiracy theory. Lol
 

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Also, on the topic of conspiracies, check out Q: Into The Storm. It's pretty crazy what people will devoutly believe because they read something on the internet.

I'm three episodes in and it's rather remarkable. Terrifyingly alarming, but rather remarkable.
 

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another one that is interesting is that the internet rumors were going wild on Walt Disney's head being frozen so they created the movie "Frozen" so redirect all web searches.

I was around 13 when he died. Right after Walt Disney died we were hearing rumors that he was frozen (not just his head) until a cure could be found.

"Frozen" was a relative nightmare in story development, so it would fit the narrative if they were throwing it together quickly for unspecified reasons lol

Hitler escaped to Argentina is a decent one and semi-plausible.

My wife and her dad are both hardcore believers in this one. A History Channel special brainwashed both of them.
 

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How long do they think Hitler lived for? For the record, I think that one is crazy.
 

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How long do they think Hitler lived for? For the record, I think that one is crazy.

It’s been a while and I don’t remember any age, but I remember there were a couple of graves dug up on the pretense it was Hitler but both were someone else.
 
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