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Jiggafini19Deux said:
www.nytimes.com

Florida State hiring former Texas, FAU coach Tom Herman to staff

Tom Herman, who was most recently the head coach at Florida Atlantic, is heading to Mike Norvell's staff at Florida State.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Tom Herman is still hanging around.
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I've always wondered if there's an untold story about that guy. His fall from the top was swift, and I wouldn't even say he was THAT bad at Texas. It took him years to get another gig and even then it was a low level one where he didn't even last 2 years. I compare that someone like Scott Frost, who had a much worse run at a lower tier p4 program and a truckload of off-field issues. Yet he's seemed to fare better.
 
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tirishman505 said:
I've always wondered if there's an untold story about that guy. His fall from the top was swift, and I wouldn't even say he was THAT bad at Texas. It took him years to get another gig and even then it was a low level one where he didn't even last 2 years. I compare that someone like Scott Frost, who had a much worse run at a lower tier p4 program and a truckload of off-field issues. Yet he's seemed to fare better.
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He has a reputation for being abrasive, overly demanding and intense. With players, staff and opposition. He's had more than one post game confrontation with opposing coaches. Alex Golesh was the most recent. His coaching and management style came into question BEFORE Covid, NIL and The Portal. That says a lot about him.

I never bought into the hype with him and Todd Orlando. He parlayed two good seasons at Houston into the Texas job. Fair play to him. He got paid out. The fact nobody snagged him up after Texas right away said something to it that it was more than on field stuff. Then he crashed out of FAU hard. That was a midseason firing.
 
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He’s a prick
 
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tirishman505 said:
I've always wondered if there's an untold story about that guy. His fall from the top was swift, and I wouldn't even say he was THAT bad at Texas. It took him years to get another gig and even then it was a low level one where he didn't even last 2 years. I compare that someone like Scott Frost, who had a much worse run at a lower tier p4 program and a truckload of off-field issues. Yet he's seemed to fare better.
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Frost was beloved by his players at UCF. He got guilted into the Nebraska job he didn't REALLY want. His wife REALLY REALLY didn't want him to take it, but he did. That caused a ton of issues at home too. He walked into a buzzsaw at Nebraska. They expected him to run things like they did in 1998 and win national championships. Combine a bad culture with a coach who doesn't really want to be there AND problems at home. No bueno. Then he did the right thing and essentially disappeared for a few years. Laid low and got his shit together. Then did right by his wife and moved her back to the city she loved living in as soon as he got the chance. And he owned his mistakes for the most part. That goes a long way. I hope he's successful there again, but even if he isn't, it was good to see him get the chance and appreciate it.
 
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Wasn't Herman the Texas coach that had the stripper girlfriend who had a pet monkey that attacked Halloweeners?
 
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Herman was supposedly the guy who leaked information when he was at Ohio State. Three years under Meyer, no wonder he's an asshole.

When Meyer and Ohio State were investigated, it was found that Herman leaked info to the media. He denied it, of course.

Another guy who gained his rep as a better recruiter than coach and human being. Hasn't gone well for him.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Herman was supposedly the guy who leaked information when he was at Ohio State. Three years under Meyer, no wonder he's an asshole.

When Meyer and Ohio State were investigated, it was found that Herman leaked info to the media. He denied it, of course.

Another guy who gained his rep as a better recruiter than coach and human being. Hasn't gone well for him.
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Sounds like he’ll fit in nicely in Tallahassee.
 
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The Texas Longhorns fell hard beginning January 7, 2010.

Todd Orlando is DC at South Alabama now. He and Herman were once rising stars in the college football coaching landscape. I'm sure they've both made their money, but that's rough. Orlando was DC at Texas and USC at one point.
 
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All those JUCO coaches feel like former gang members who go back into the bad neighborhoods to "clean things up and get kids out of gangs" but really haven't given up that life at all.
 
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I would assume that with NIL and The Portal, programs are a lot less reliant on JUCO players in this era. Even the ones that would utilize it more frequently.

I'm sure a lot of players will need JUCO, but the Power 4 schools probably don't need to tap into the JUCO ranks nearly as much if at all.
 
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