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How many successful years does Charlie Strong need before he's considered for another good P5 job?

I think he'd be considered for the south carolina, louisville, and florida job today because of past affiliations with those schools. Otherwise, I'm not sure. I think everybody is willing to cut Charlie some slack for his time in Texas, but he was still at the helm for the worst 3 year stretch in the program's history, so I'm not sure a blue blood program would be willing to overlook that. Charlie is no spring chicken either, so I'd say his time and options for a head gig at a great program are quite slim.
 

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Mitch Mustain's fam. Springfield HS?

IDK. Lol

They definitely weren't fans of Nutt and Broyles, but otherwise, I think pretty much the entire state loves them some Gus.


Don’t forget about Petrino. Now that Jurich is gone, his buyout is cut in half so he’s basically a free man. I suspect a number of the SEC schools wouldn’t hesitate to hire him.

His buyout is cut in half because the AD is gone? Regardless, I can see somebody desperate maybe making a move on petrino. I can also see nobody wanting to touch that dude- he's been disloyal and toxic everywhere he's been.
 

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How many successful years does Charlie Strong need before he's considered for another good P5 job?

How many successful years has he had overall?

He's in his 3rd successful season in 8 years. And none of those seasons included major college competition in the Big East or AAC. Also I don't consider a 7-6 mark against the likes of Missouri St and Rutgers a mark of excellence. That may explain his losing record at Texas when he suddenly was faced with a major college schedule.


How many winning P5 seasons has he had?


None in my opinion.

Although the Big East's basketball prowess gave them some muscle they were a weak football conference not much difference from the weak AAC. Strong's UL 11-2 (Big East) record in 2012 and 12-1 in (AAC) 2013 look impressive until you look at who they actually played. When UL moved to the ACC in 2014 they added about 3 losses per year. Yes, Strong was gone but now they were playing Miami, Clemson, FSU etc instead of Rutgers, Connecticut, and Eastern Kentucky.


2012 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE RECORD: 11-2
DATE OPPONENT
9-2-12 KENTUCKY (Sun.) WON 32-14
9-8-12 MISSOURI STATE WON 35-7
9-15-12 NORTH CAROLINA WON 39-34
9-22-12 at Florida International WON 28-21
9-29-12 at Southern Miss WON 21-17
10-13-12 at Pittsburgh WON 45-35
10-20-12 SOUTH FLORIDA WON 27-25
10-26-12 CINCINNATI (Fri.) WON 34-31 (OT)
11-3-12 TEMPLE WON 45-17
11-10-12 at Syracuse LOST 26-45
11-24-12 CONNECTICUT LOST 20-23 (3OT)
11-29-12 at Rutgers (Thur.) WON 20-17
SUGAR BOWL @New Orleans, LA
1-2-13 Florida WON 33-23

UF was a bowl game not part of the "schedule".


2013 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE RECORD: 12-1

DATE OPPONENT
9-1-13 OHIO (Sun.) WON 49-7
9-7-13 EASTERN KENTUCKY WON 44-7
9-14-13 at Kentucky WON 27-13
9-21-13 FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL WON 72-0
10-5-13 at Temple WON 30-7
10-10-13 RUTGERS (Thur.) WON 24-10
10-18-13 UCF (Fri.) LOST 35-38
10-26-13 at South Florida WON 34-3
11-8-13 at Connecticut (Fri.) WON 31-10
11-16-13 HOUSTON WON 20-13
11-23-13 MEMPHIS WON 24-17
12-5-13 at Cincinnati (Thur.) WON 31-24 (OT)
RUSSELL ATHLETIC BOWL @Orlando, FL
12-28-13 Miami FL WON 36-9
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...me-coordinators-primed-for-top-coaching-jobs/
by Barton Simmons Nov 15, 2017

Ready for big time
Joe Moorhead, Penn State offensive coordinator
Brent Venables, Clemson defensive coordinator
Greg Schiano, Ohio State defensive coordinator

On The Cusp
Jeremy Pruitt, Alabama defensive coordinator
Jonathan Smith, Washington offensive coordinator
Manny Diaz, Miami defensive coordinator

Brief writeups at the link.
 

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Don’t forget about Petrino. Now that Jurich is gone, his buyout is cut in half so he’s basically a free man. I suspect a number of the SEC schools wouldn’t hesitate to hire him.

Petrino is no longer a hot name especially with the baggage that comes with him.
 

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Isn't there also something with his divorce and the shared custody of his son? I believe I remember there being a part of that agreement about him not being able to leave Florida.

He was divorced late in 2015. His son has a rare blood disorder. He can leave to coach anywhere he wants but the feeling is he doesn't want to be far away from both his sons.
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...me-coordinators-primed-for-top-coaching-jobs/
by Barton Simmons Nov 15, 2017

Ready for big time
Joe Moorhead, Penn State offensive coordinator
Brent Venables, Clemson defensive coordinator
Greg Schiano, Ohio State defensive coordinator

On The Cusp
Jeremy Pruitt, Alabama defensive coordinator
Jonathan Smith, Washington offensive coordinator
Manny Diaz, Miami defensive coordinator

Brief writeups at the link.

Moorhead has a decent resume, but I'm not sold on him with how the offense at PSU has looked at times. Yes, they have had some very creative wrinkles and ways to get Barkley the ball. However, he seems to like the long developing runs (sound familiar?) too much, and with a weak OL, Barkley is getting hounded. I know teams key on him, but still.
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...me-coordinators-primed-for-top-coaching-jobs/
by Barton Simmons Nov 15, 2017

Ready for big time
Joe Moorhead, Penn State offensive coordinator
Brent Venables, Clemson defensive coordinator
Greg Schiano, Ohio State defensive coordinator

On The Cusp
Jeremy Pruitt, Alabama defensive coordinator
Jonathan Smith, Washington offensive coordinator
Manny Diaz, Miami defensive coordinator

Brief writeups at the link.

J. Pruitt is a first class as*. But he is also a first class DC and recruiter too. Pick your poison I guess.
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...me-coordinators-primed-for-top-coaching-jobs/
by Barton Simmons Nov 15, 2017

Ready for big time
Joe Moorhead, Penn State offensive coordinator
Brent Venables, Clemson defensive coordinator
Greg Schiano, Ohio State defensive coordinator

On The Cusp
Jeremy Pruitt, Alabama defensive coordinator
Jonathan Smith, Washington offensive coordinator
Manny Diaz, Miami defensive coordinator

Brief writeups at the link.

I know Venables loves being at Clemson because Dabo is very big on family and makes sure his coaches have plenty of time with their families. Plus I think people assume the job he likely would take is Kansas State where he played and coached for Snyder.
 

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He was divorced late in 2015. His son has a rare blood disorder. He can leave to coach anywhere he wants but the feeling is he doesn't want to be far away from both his sons.

Thanks - I knew there was something.
 

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Personality wise he and Todd Grantham remind me of each other.

Don't know Grantham personally but I could see that based on how he acts on gameday.

On a side note... it appears UTenn made their pitch to Chucky last night. I don't think he leaves his current gig. Then again... he makes a boatload of money and ESPN is cutting back. Guess we never know.
 

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Don't know Grantham personally but I could see that based on how he acts on gameday.

On a side note... it appears UTenn made their pitch to Chucky last night. I don't think he leaves his current gig. Then again... he makes a boatload of money and ESPN is cutting back. Guess we never know.

Interesting conversation between Dan Patrick and Rich Eisen today. Dan asked the question on if Gruden has the type of clout that he can go to ESPN and say he is thinking about coaching and ESPN in turn would give him a raise. Rich concurred, saying Gruden, right now, is vital to MNF since Tirico isn't there.
 

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Interesting conversation between Dan Patrick and Rich Eisen today. Dan asked the question on if Gruden has the type of clout that he can go to ESPN and say he is thinking about coaching and ESPN in turn would give him a raise. Rich concurred, saying Gruden, right now, is vital to MNF since Tirico isn't there.

Yeah Gruden is a star for ESPN. He's important to them. I still contend the Tampa Bay job would be the only job that would entice him to coach again. The longer coaches stay out the harder it is for them to go back. As long as they can still be involved in the game they realize they have a much better lifestyle than they had when they were coaching. Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Mariucci (sp.), etc.
 

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Yeah Gruden is a star for ESPN. He's important to them. I still contend the Tampa Bay job would be the only job that would entice him to coach again. The longer coaches stay out the harder it is for them to go back. As long as they can still be involved in the game they realize they have a much better lifestyle than they had when they were coaching. Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Mariucci (sp.), etc.

100% agree
 

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Yeah Gruden is a star for ESPN. He's important to them. I still contend the Tampa Bay job would be the only job that would entice him to coach again. The longer coaches stay out the harder it is for them to go back. As long as they can still be involved in the game they realize they have a much better lifestyle than they had when they were coaching. Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Mariucci (sp.), etc.

Especially coaching in college. Recruiting seems like such a grind, then it's spring ball. You barely have an off-season. Or you can make good money to talk on TV for 20 days a year.
 

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Especially coaching in college. Recruiting seems like such a grind, then it's spring ball. You barely have an off-season. Or you can make good money to talk on TV for 20 days a year.

And come up with the greatest "company" ever: FFCA!
 

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Especially coaching in college. Recruiting seems like such a grind, then it's spring ball. You barely have an off-season. Or you can make good money to talk on TV for 20 days a year.

This. I don't think Gruden would want to go through the grind of recruiting, working donors, etc. I think the only coaching option he would consider is back in the NFL.
 

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Interesting conversation between Dan Patrick and Rich Eisen today. Dan asked the question on if Gruden has the type of clout that he can go to ESPN and say he is thinking about coaching and ESPN in turn would give him a raise. Rich concurred, saying Gruden, right now, is vital to MNF since Tirico isn't there.

Probably so but the rumor mill says UT offered 7 years at $70+ mil. That would cause one to pause and contemplate for a bit.
 

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J. Pruitt is a first class as*. But he is also a first class DC and recruiter too. Pick your poison I guess.

Did not know that. Dude's got a helluva resume, and has been wildly successful though. Maybe he's on the path to take a head job, flame out and piss off the boosters and alumni, then be back as a DC in a couple years.

Probably so but the rumor mill says UT offered 7 years at $70+ mil. That would cause one to pause and contemplate for a bit.

This summer, when Tannehill got hurt and Cutler going to the Dolphins was inevitable, I remember some former player on the radio talking about Romo possibly leaving the booth. The guy said no way because Romo has the number 1 job in his new profession. Cutler was the was like the 6th place color commentator for Fox. Could Cutler move up the ranks in 5 or 10 years? Sure, but also very likely to not move up the ranks. So he gave up a trial run job making 4 or 500k to get guaranteed millions for at least 1 more year. But Romo was already the number 1 guy for CBS. He's making a couple mil now...and could make even more millions over the next 10-20 years (at least). I kind of see Gruden in the same way. I personally don't care for him much as a color commentator, but he's one of the top 1-3 color guys out there (based on prestige, salary, name recognition, Q score, etc). And Gruden himself is enough of a brand that he's not tied solely to espn- he could move to another network and be the top guy there too. Now some of these coaches are ridiculously driven individuals. Maybe he has the need to achieve at tennessee. But most of these coaches are fairly smart too. Guaranteed high life for another 10-20 years, or take a job at a place he can do better than...all while forfeiting his crown as the top announcer in the business, and one he probably can't attain after a 2-5 year hiatus? I know what I'd do.
 

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Booger McFarland reported that Gus wants to return to Arkansas. He stayed behind after Auburn won at Fayetteville so rumors are that he was in contact w/ Ark officials. Or...he was just visiting family.

Had Auburn lost to Ark, Malzahn would’ve reportedly been fired. Now he has a chance to lead Auburn to the SEC Championship & possibly the CFP. Plus, his team is set up for an even better year next season, so he may want to stick around.

Malzahn is in same spot at Auburn as Nutt was in at Arkansas. When Auburn wins, it’s b/c Gus got out of the way of his coordinators. When Auburn loses, it’s b/c he meddled with the playcalling.

Both Auburn & Ark are looking for a new AD. Unless Ark has some back room deal already worked out for a soon to be announced AD, their strategy looks questionable at best. If they don’t have an AD ASAP, the window will close on Gus.

If Auburn loses the Iron Bowl, Arkansas’ chances improve IMO. However, I think they beat Bama & get a rematch w/ UGA in the SEC Championship.
 
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