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FU BK

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Nice pass to the endzone dipshit. Can't wait for the Blackhawks to get their asses kicked like last night to cap this day off.
 

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Lot of respect for the program Ben Johnson is running. Caleb is so damn slippery and is probably the best in the league at avoiding sacks and extending plays. They are a physical bunch. Didnt get that 4th and 1 call with how well you were running the football, but a great football game all around.

They'll be a tough out in the postseason. Cheers gents, sorry it was a bummer of a football day for you all, sincerely.
 

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Lot of respect for the program Ben Johnson is running. Caleb is so damn slippery and is probably the best in the league at avoiding sacks and extending plays. They are a physical bunch. Didnt get that 4th and 1 call with how well you were running the football, but a great football game all around.

They'll be a tough out in the postseason. Cheers gents, sorry it was a bummer of a football day for you all, sincerely.
It was like watching 2010 Tulsa all over again "nooooo whyyyy..."

I should be used to it by now, it's the Bears...but still
 

Crazy Balki

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In a vacuum, they did play fairly well. This team is going to continue to be exploited in the middle 3 on defense.

Williams gets flak for the last play, but I'm gonna be real. That play was doomed to fail. It's a rare L from Ben Johnson. One decision or another, that is almost definitely ending poorly.

If this team wants to make the playoffs and make a legitimate run, they need Edmunds back, bare minimum.

But just....really? This game was like receiving a wet willy after getting kicked in the nuts.
 

FU BK

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Hey...at least the Blackhawks got their nuts kicked in 7-1 to top it all off
 

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Bears are overachieving at this point anyway. Still don't think they match up with the elite, but also not sure if anyone in the NFC right now is truly elite anyway
 

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Bears are overachieving at this point anyway. Still don't think they match up with the elite, but also not sure if anyone in the NFC right now is truly elite anyway
They won at Philly. If they beat the Niners and get the Packers in Chicago, that's about as good as you can do in the NFC this year.
 

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Probably the most impressive CW has looked since the Cowboys game.

Hopefully Burden is okay. That said, it's safe to say the Bears made it out way better than the Packers did going into this week's showdown. Losing Parsons and likely Watson in less than half an hour is crazy. Feel awful for the players, because that's never a good feeling, but definitely opportunistic for the Bears.
 

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I'm not sure I'll ever get over the rejection of this plan: Bears release plans for stadium project in Chicago

I was so pumped for that to happen. Can someone fill me in, again, on why that got turned down?
they never got political support, they went ahead and announced this plan before even speaking to the governor about it. With no political support that means no tax payer and funding support.
 

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they never got political support, they went ahead and announced this plan before even speaking to the governor about it. With no political support that means no tax payer and funding support.
I recall it being political, but why? Do you happen to remember? Was it purely based on the optics of tax payer funded stadiums = bad? I'm not a Chicagoan (grew up about an hour or so east), but when I first saw that video rendering, my mindset was that of Wrigleville 1060, or what downtown Indy has done recently with all the common areas. To me, that wasn't just a stadium moving. It was opening up the entire north area (where old Soldier Field is now) as a massive common area for the city. Seems short sighted to just nix that idea to me, but again, I don't know all the details about it.
 

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I recall it being political, but why? Do you happen to remember? Was it purely based on the optics of tax payer funded stadiums = bad? I'm not a Chicagoan (grew up about an hour or so east), but when I first saw that video rendering, my mindset was that of Wrigleville 1060, or what downtown Indy has done recently with all the common areas. To me, that wasn't just a stadium moving. It was opening up the entire north area (where old Soldier Field is now) as a massive common area for the city. Seems short sighted to just nix that idea to me, but again, I don't know all the details about it.
Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
 

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Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
Gotcha. Bummer. Their media relations team sure sold me. That video was amazing! haha

Thanks.
 

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Kevin Warren really needs to go. None of his threats are getting the team what they want. Any redevelopment of Soldier Field doesn't get the McCaskeys the money they want, they don't have the money to build Arlington Heights on their own, and Indiana would be a massive blow to revenue generation capacity, let alone the public blowback.

If they are going to get a new stadium and stadium district, they need someone who can come up with some creative deals and tell the McCaskeys that they can't have their cake and eat it too. Instead, Kevin Warren has only had bad faith negotiations and public threats at the exact wrong moments.
 

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Hot take: NFL teams worth billions of dollars should pay for their own stadiums.

I understand this to a point. But the government should contribute some money to these organizations. The amount of money they bring to the area from restaurants, hotels, and the jobs they bring to the area.

Yes they should pay some but not 40 or 50 percent like I have seen some places ask for.

And the government should up keep the side walks and roadways around this locations.
 

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Hot take: NFL teams worth billions of dollars should pay for their own stadiums.
Agreed.

The Bears are not asking for taxpayer money for the stadium. They're asking for infrastructure improvements in and around the area around Arlington Park where the stadium is planning on being built. So they claim, anyway.

Jerry Reinsdorf went to the state about money for a new ballpark for the White Sox. They told him thanks but no thanks.

He mentions NW Indiana as a pure trigger point. People are pissed the team is moving out to the suburbs. Moving them over the border would be an absolute PR nightmare. He has everyone's attention now.

With the Packers coming to town this weekend.
 

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Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
This doesn't even mention that the Lakefront is protected property and the Bears could not even own the stadium if it would have been built. For everyone clamoring for the Bears to build a stadium on the Lakefront and stop asking for money, they're effectively asking that the Bears gift the public a stadium. Nobody would ever do that lol
 

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I understand this to a point. But the government should contribute some money to these organizations. The amount of money they bring to the area from restaurants, hotels, and the jobs they bring to the area.

Yes they should pay some but not 40 or 50 percent like I have seen some places ask for.

And the government should up keep the side walks and roadways around this locations.
I contribute quite a bit myself. Would be nice to get a little contribution to the renovations I'm doing on my home.
 

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Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?
I thought it was this as well.
 

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Hell...talk to Northeast Indiana....they mayor in Fort Wayne would be like a blow up doll and give them anything they want. Fort Wayne Bears has a nice ring...lol
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?
The debt was to be paid off by a portion of hotel taxes collected from city hotels because it was going to be a great driver of tourism, and out of towners would pay it instead of city taxpayers since Soldier Field is owned by the Park District and projects would otherwise be borne by city taxpayers in that regard. That didn't happen, so the city has had to fork over the shortfalls. The state (not the city, the current mayor was happy to bend over and take it) is telling the Bears to pony up because the Soldier Field renovation was only done at their behest, just like the any new project.
 

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Hell...talk to Northeast Indiana....they mayor in Fort Wayne would be like a blow up doll and give them anything they want. Fort Wayne Bears has a nice ring...lol
Bruh.....blow up dolls are SO much different now.

From what I hear. 🙄
 
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