It was like watching 2010 Tulsa all over again "nooooo whyyyy..."Lot of respect for the program Ben Johnson is running. Caleb is so damn slippery and is probably the best in the league at avoiding sacks and extending plays. They are a physical bunch. Didnt get that 4th and 1 call with how well you were running the football, but a great football game all around.
They'll be a tough out in the postseason. Cheers gents, sorry it was a bummer of a football day for you all, sincerely.
They won at Philly. If they beat the Niners and get the Packers in Chicago, that's about as good as you can do in the NFC this year.Bears are overachieving at this point anyway. Still don't think they match up with the elite, but also not sure if anyone in the NFC right now is truly elite anyway
they never got political support, they went ahead and announced this plan before even speaking to the governor about it. With no political support that means no tax payer and funding support.I'm not sure I'll ever get over the rejection of this plan: Bears release plans for stadium project in Chicago
I was so pumped for that to happen. Can someone fill me in, again, on why that got turned down?
I recall it being political, but why? Do you happen to remember? Was it purely based on the optics of tax payer funded stadiums = bad? I'm not a Chicagoan (grew up about an hour or so east), but when I first saw that video rendering, my mindset was that of Wrigleville 1060, or what downtown Indy has done recently with all the common areas. To me, that wasn't just a stadium moving. It was opening up the entire north area (where old Soldier Field is now) as a massive common area for the city. Seems short sighted to just nix that idea to me, but again, I don't know all the details about it.they never got political support, they went ahead and announced this plan before even speaking to the governor about it. With no political support that means no tax payer and funding support.
Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbfI recall it being political, but why? Do you happen to remember? Was it purely based on the optics of tax payer funded stadiums = bad? I'm not a Chicagoan (grew up about an hour or so east), but when I first saw that video rendering, my mindset was that of Wrigleville 1060, or what downtown Indy has done recently with all the common areas. To me, that wasn't just a stadium moving. It was opening up the entire north area (where old Soldier Field is now) as a massive common area for the city. Seems short sighted to just nix that idea to me, but again, I don't know all the details about it.
Gotcha. Bummer. Their media relations team sure sold me. That video was amazing! hahaBasically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
Hot take: NFL teams worth billions of dollars should pay for their own stadiums.
Agreed.Hot take: NFL teams worth billions of dollars should pay for their own stadiums.
This doesn't even mention that the Lakefront is protected property and the Bears could not even own the stadium if it would have been built. For everyone clamoring for the Bears to build a stadium on the Lakefront and stop asking for money, they're effectively asking that the Bears gift the public a stadium. Nobody would ever do that lolBasically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
I contribute quite a bit myself. Would be nice to get a little contribution to the renovations I'm doing on my home.I understand this to a point. But the government should contribute some money to these organizations. The amount of money they bring to the area from restaurants, hotels, and the jobs they bring to the area.
Yes they should pay some but not 40 or 50 percent like I have seen some places ask for.
And the government should up keep the side walks and roadways around this locations.
Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?Basically like every NFL ownership they wanted the public to fund their stadium for them and the Governor told them to get lost. Secondly the Bears still owe debts on the last remodel of Soldier Field and also there were objections from local groups about the location near the lakefront and then finally also issues with fitting the stadium in the Bears desired location, theyd have to rip up train lines and the city was never keen on that. Whole thing was a shitshow tbf
I thought it was this as well.Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?
The debt was to be paid off by a portion of hotel taxes collected from city hotels because it was going to be a great driver of tourism, and out of towners would pay it instead of city taxpayers since Soldier Field is owned by the Park District and projects would otherwise be borne by city taxpayers in that regard. That didn't happen, so the city has had to fork over the shortfalls. The state (not the city, the current mayor was happy to bend over and take it) is telling the Bears to pony up because the Soldier Field renovation was only done at their behest, just like the any new project.Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm basing on a video I watched), but it's my understanding that only the city still has debt related to the last renovation, but city now wants the bears to pay that portion as well before moving forward with a new stadium down town?
Bruh.....blow up dolls are SO much different now.Hell...talk to Northeast Indiana....they mayor in Fort Wayne would be like a blow up doll and give them anything they want. Fort Wayne Bears has a nice ring...lol