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Some want to talk big boy football. Your standards are insultingly low, you're just happy a ball is snapped. You're the same person last year who pooped a little each time someone criticized Rees.

Find a sunshine thread where no one is ever critical. Some want to talk real ND football
Well look whosis flexing. Dude, you’re not that great of a football mind and you come off as a whiney bitch.You want to be fooorball smart and you fall well short. you’re not a fan. You want to be smarter than everyone else.. you lose in every conceivable way. Do us all a favor and post less. You’re awful
 

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Come on man it isn't like you are breaking down route schemes or how we are a better pin and pull team then zone all you talk about is linebackers being bad
 

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The term pressure might be generous in this instance.

Kiser flying through the air with his feet over his head after being cut in half at the line of scrimmage isn’t a pressure IMHO.


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I think its actually been pretty obvious watching through 4 games that while we sre not accumulating sacks, they have been disruptive and there have not been many instances at all of a QB sitting in the pocket with all day to throw. Nobody has run the ball well against us as is evidence by basically every metric available. I think its a narrative that is growing legs simply because people are nervous about something maybe happening that hasnt happened yet, versus the on field performance this far.
We really need guys to stay fresh and assignment sound and continue forcing teams to drive the length of the field against us like Clark Leas defenses did and keep making QBs uncomfortable even if the sacks arent happening.
Barely 200 yds a game and 12 pts through 4 games against any competition is acceptable. The constant bed wetting is tiring. This team isnt perfect and may get tripped up at some point but right now theyre playing pretty good ball. Lets enjoy it.
 

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Well look whosis flexing. Dude, you’re not that great of a football mind and you come off as a whiney bitch.You want to be fooorball smart and you fall well short. you’re not a fan. You want to be smarter than everyone else.. you lose in every conceivable way. Do us all a favor and post less. You’re awful
I said foooorball…. Lol

Regardless, Ding… you’re still garbage
 

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I think its actually been pretty obvious watching through 4 games that while we sre not accumulating sacks, they have been disruptive and there have not been many instances at all of a QB sitting in the pocket with all day to throw. Nobody has run the ball well against us as is evidence by basically every metric available. I think its a narrative that is growing legs simply because people are nervous about something maybe happening that hasnt happened yet, versus the on field performance this far.
We really need guys to stay fresh and assignment sound and continue forcing teams to drive the length of the field against us like Clark Leas defenses did and keep making QBs uncomfortable even if the sacks arent happening.
Barely 200 yds a game and 12 pts through 4 games against any competition is acceptable. The constant bed wetting is tiring. This team isnt perfect and may get tripped up at some point but right now theyre playing pretty good ball. Lets enjoy it.

I agree that they are being disruptive with out the sacks. We just need to finish up those tackles for loss when we have the opportunities.
 

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The term pressure might be generous in this instance.

Kiser flying through the air with his feet over his head after being cut in half at the line of scrimmage isn’t a pressure IMHO.


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You aware he got up and got the strip sack, yes?
😂
 

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I agree that they are being disruptive with out the sacks. We just need to finish up those tackles for loss when we have the opportunities.
Definitely. Aside from finishing these pressure opportunities, a few things i think there actually is significant room for improvement are 1. eliminating penalties 2. Tackling better in general and 3. Fisher…he hasn’t been awful but he also hasnt been anywhere near as dominant as I think many felt he would be in year 3. We need him to be better.
 

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Postgame Thoughts:
1) Tobias Time! Gimme more.
2) Please make Holden Staes a starter, he's been listed as a back up to Evans
3) Seems like Davis Sherwood got more PT than Colzie yesterday??
4) Nice to see Christian Gray & Drayk Bowen get some PT
5) The 2 deep pass TD's were perfect, nice to have the deep ball threat
6) I thought the team was looking ahead, they were in a bit of a funk- poor tackling and penalties got us
7) After Sam got hit low and limped off, he was on the sideline warming up quickly.

Go Irish!
 

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Look, they gave up 17 points to a MAC school, and it did not look pretty defensively, but these stats say they held up pretty damn well. CMU was just super efficient on their scoring drives, I felt like their OC called one hell of a game.

Tobias getting a big TD and some confidence going into OSU is huge. Excited to see him grow as a player

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To add to that, Weren’t there multiple penalties on each of their scoring drives that assisted them?
 

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Missed the game live. Watching it now for the first time. Kind of surprised at how panicky ND twitter was at halftime. I was expecting a total shitshow of a first half.
 

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I’m in agreement w/ Pete Sampson. Before the CMU game, my thought was ND should beat OSU. After the CMU game, my thought is ND can beat OSU. It’s so tough to decipher who the contenders & pretenders are this year b/c there hasn’t been a lot of great matchups. Both ND & OSU have yet to play an above average offense. ND’s defense has struggled w/ the run at times (specifically tackling) and getting to the QB. It’s still paid off vs lesser opponents b/c it’s resulted in interceptions or failed 3rd down conversions but OSU is another animal.
 

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I’m in agreement w/ Pete Sampson. Before the CMU game, my thought was ND should beat OSU. After the CMU game, my thought is ND can beat OSU. It’s so tough to decipher who the contenders & pretenders are this year b/c there hasn’t been a lot of great matchups. Both ND & OSU have yet to play an above average offense. ND’s defense has struggled w/ the run at times (specifically tackling) and getting to the QB. It’s still paid off vs lesser opponents b/c it’s resulted in interceptions or failed 3rd down conversions but OSU is another animal.
I’m normally a big Pete fan but I didn’t like the combo of pre-game “there’s not much short of a total catastrophe that will change my opinion about this team heading into the OSU game” and the post-game “their performance changed my opinion of the team heading into the OSU game” when ND covers and doubles CMU in yardage. It was an uncharacteristically reactionary take from Pete.
 

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I’m normally a big Pete fan but I didn’t like the combo of pre-game “there’s not much short of a total catastrophe that will change my opinion about this team heading into the OSU game” and the post-game “their performance changed my opinion of the team heading into the OSU game” when ND covers and doubles CMU in yardage. It was an uncharacteristically reactionary take from Pete.
Nd didn’t cover and had their starters in late into the game

I was just really disappointed with tackling and sloppy penalties two games in a row
 

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I’m normally a big Pete fan but I didn’t like the combo of pre-game “there’s not much short of a total catastrophe that will change my opinion about this team heading into the OSU game” and the post-game “their performance changed my opinion of the team heading into the OSU game” when ND covers and doubles CMU in yardage. It was an uncharacteristically reactionary take from Pete.
I think it has to do with how good OSU looked too.
 

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I’m normally a big Pete fan but I didn’t like the combo of pre-game “there’s not much short of a total catastrophe that will change my opinion about this team heading into the OSU game” and the post-game “their performance changed my opinion of the team heading into the OSU game” when ND covers and doubles CMU in yardage. It was an uncharacteristically reactionary take from Pete.
Yeah, I'm with you. Early last week, he basically said nothing can happen against CMU to change his mind for the OSU game. I don't believe anything of significance happened on Saturday to change my mind about the upcoming matchup.
 

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I think it has to do with how good OSU looked too.
Yeah. Listening to his podcast he seemed pretty impressed with what OSU did to Western Kentucky. I didn't watch but the end result looked exactly like what I expect Ohio State should to do to Western Kentucky?

But yes any shift in his thinking was at least as much about OSU’s play on Saturday as Notre Dame’s.
 

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Yeah. Listening to his podcast he seemed pretty impressed with what OSU did to Western Kentucky. I didn't watch but the end result looked exactly like what I expect Ohio State should to do to Western Kentucky?

But yes any shift in his thinking was at least as much about OSU’s play on Saturday as Notre Dame’s.
Sounded like pundits expected WKU to at least challenge OSU through the air but they were effectively shut down for WKU standards as a pass-happy team.
 

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I’m normally a big Pete fan but I didn’t like the combo of pre-game “there’s not much short of a total catastrophe that will change my opinion about this team heading into the OSU game” and the post-game “their performance changed my opinion of the team heading into the OSU game” when ND covers and doubles CMU in yardage. It was an uncharacteristically reactionary take from Pete.
Of the ND beat writers, my recollection is that Pete is the worst at taking inferior opponents for granted. TBF, he’s likely giving his prediction based on matchups but in CFB you have to factor in so many other things.

Transitive property rarely, if ever; comes into account. New Hampshire put up 42 points on 493 yds passing so it would make sense for avg fans to expect ND to just show up and have the backups in for the entire 2H. What doesn’t get factored is that CMU could‘ve been taking NW lightly and looking fwd to ND (as their Super Bowl). Just like ND took CMU lightly looking ahead to OSU. Plus NH had under 50 yds rushing so what they’re good (passing) is what CMU is horrible at (pass D). Their secondary arguably worse than TSU.

CMU has accumulated the most rushing yards (131) thus far vs ND. Hard to say what that means b/c of the level of competition both ND & OSU have faced.
 

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Of the ND beat writers, my recollection is that Pete is the worst at taking inferior opponents for granted. TBF, he’s likely giving his prediction based on matchups but in CFB you have to factor in so many other things.

Transitive property rarely, if ever; comes into account. New Hampshire put up 42 points on 493 yds passing so it would make sense for avg fans to expect ND to just show up and have the backups in for the entire 2H. What doesn’t get factored is that CMU could‘ve been taking NW lightly and looking fwd to ND (as their Super Bowl). Just like ND took CMU lightly looking ahead to OSU. Plus NH had under 50 yds rushing so what they’re good (passing) is what CMU is horrible at (pass D). Their secondary arguably worse than TSU.

CMU has accumulated the most rushing yards (131) thus far vs ND. Hard to say what that means b/c of the level of competition both ND & OSU have faced.
Don't forget about consecutive weeks of horrible reffing that's directly lead to points for both teams and points off the board for ND.
 

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Postgame Thoughts:
1) Tobias Time! Gimme more.
2) Please make Holden Staes a starter, he's been listed as a back up to Evans
3) Seems like Davis Sherwood got more PT than Colzie yesterday??
4) Nice to see Christian Gray & Drayk Bowen get some PT
5) The 2 deep pass TD's were perfect, nice to have the deep ball threat
6) I thought the team was looking ahead, they were in a bit of a funk- poor tackling and penalties got us
7) After Sam got hit low and limped off, he was on the sideline warming up quickly.

Go Irish!
We saw vs NC State but I think using Sherwood more as a pass game weapon out of the backfield would be great
 

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We saw vs NC State but I think using Sherwood more as a pass game weapon out of the backfield would be great
I'd prefer not needing to trick the defense to get someone open.

My point is yes, he caught a TD when we were in 3TE set and NC state was selling out against the run. No team is going to take him as much of a receiver threat, as i'm not sure he is one.
 

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I'd prefer not needing to trick the defense to get someone open.

My point is yes, he caught a TD when we were in 3TE set and NC state was selling out against the run. No team is going to take him as much of a receiver threat, as i'm not sure he is one.
Using your HBack more in the pass game? Has nothing to do with “tricking” anyone.
 

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So both ND & OSU have played a P5 road game.

ND at a top 30 NCSU.
OSU at a garbage IU.

OSU struggles, ND doesn’t.

Ignore that & look at WKU & CMU.
Cool Pete.
 

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I’d def use the back more in the passing game,… unless they all just can’t catch out of the backfield that’s prob the most obvious thing that we aren’t doing much of,… more 21 personnel and more wheels, rb screens and such
 

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So both ND & OSU have played a P5 road game.

ND at a top 30 NCSU.
OSU at a garbage IU.

OSU struggles, ND doesn’t.

Ignore that & look at WKU & CMU.
Cool Pete.
That NC State game was not as easy as the final score indicated. It was 24-17 with 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, and they had the ball inside our 20

And I don't think anyone considers NC State a top 30 team
 
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