CA Police shoot dog

[Jebediah Springfield]

This is all over social media in CA... surprised it hasn't made its way on here.

 

[arrowryan]

That's disturbing to watch

And shooting the dog was extremely unnecessary

 

[magogian]

Very disturbing. I have no idea whether the arrest was legit. But, the cops were forced to shoot the dog. No cop is going to be required to put themselves at risk against an aggressive large dog.

If the owner was less of a moron and not purposefully trying to provoke the police this wouldn't have happened.

 

[Grahambo]

That's disturbing to watch

And shooting the dog was extremely unnecessary

How would you have handled it?

 

[arrowryan]

How would you have handled it?

Well if every dog got shot for snapping at someone then there wouldn't be very many dogs in this world.

What would I have done? Probably taze it

 

[BGIF]

How would you have handled it?

Shot the owner.

 

[BobD]

Shot the owner.

This

 

[woolybug25]

I hope that guy sues the **** out of them. He offered himself for arrest. They could have simply let him get control of his dog. The dog had a leash on for crying out loud.

A lazy, heartless officer. If that is an example of his decision making ability, one should question if he should be allowed to make judgement decisions when people's lives are danger. He obviously shoots first and asks questions later.

What were they even arresting him for anyway? For taping them on his phone? That cop is a coward, plain and simple.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

If the owner was less of a moron and not purposefully trying to provoke the police this wouldn't have happened.

That's the sad part. The dog was shot for simply being loyal to a moron who put it in a bad situation.

 

[woolybug25]

How would you have handled it?

Un handcuffed the guy that voluntarily offered himself for arrest so he could get his dog secured.

I don't know... Not something as clearly cowardly as this act for sure.

 

[magogian]

I hope that guy sues the **** out of them. He offered himself for arrest. They could have simply let him get control of his dog. The dog had a leash on for crying out loud.

A lazy, heartless officer. If that is an example of his decision making ability, one should question if he should be allowed to make judgement decisions when people's lives are danger. He obviously shoots first and asks questions later.

What were they even arresting him for anyway? For taping them on his phone? That cop is a coward, plain and simple.

Wow.

A coward? You don't f around with dogs like that. They can very easily cause a serious injury.

What's hilarious is the manner in which you attack the cop's decision making. Yours is even far more irrational and you weren't even caught in the exigencies of the moment!

 

[magogian]

I don't know... Not something as clearly cowardly as this act for sure.

Yeah, you would have wrestled the dog. The tough guy that you are.

 

[irishfan]

Well that ruined my day.

Sucks that dog literally just got shot for being loyal to his owner.

Tough to know what to do in that situation. If you're afraid of dogs, you'd probably shoot too. I grew up with large dogs in the house and volunteered at my town's animal shelter, so I would probably either a) know that dog is not going to kill me and that i weigh twice as much as it does or b) taze it and hope for the best.

I'm in the dogs=human mindset and I know that not many others are. But I mean they would taze a human who was charging the cops like this trying to defend their friend. Seems reasonable to do the same for a dog. Are they taught in training to taze people in this situation and shoot dogs? Serious question, cause I don't know the effects that a tazer has on a dog.

 

[woolybug25]

Yeah, you would have wrestled the dog. The tough guy that you are.

I never said anything near that, in fact, the "tough guy" bs is what ragging on the cop about. Again, the dog was freaking out in the car, was walking around, and the owner was trying to tell the dog to get away. They could have simply uncuffed the dude (who volunteered his arrest) and let him put his dog away. Instead he shot the mans dog right in front of him. Cowardly act.

Btw, cut it with the personal attack bs. I didn't disrespect anyone with my comments, no reason to do it to me.

 

[LoveThee]

I hope that guy sues the **** out of them. He offered himself for arrest. They could have simply let him get control of his dog. The dog had a leash on for crying out loud.

A lazy, heartless officer. If that is an example of his decision making ability, one should question if he should be allowed to make judgement decisions when people's lives are danger. He obviously shoots first and asks questions later.

What were they even arresting him for anyway? For taping them on his phone? That cop is a coward, plain and simple.

This.

That dog got killed for being loyal to its master. If those cops had a brain they'd simply take the man out of his handcuffs so he could put the dog back in the car. Its not like the man was a risk to run, he voluntarily gave himself up for arrest. I can understand the cop being afraid because of the dog lunging at him, but as a cop you should have better decision making.

Just crushing, that poor dog. You can see the owner in distraught after its shot too. It just ain't right

 

[jmurphy75]

Un handcuffed the guy that voluntarily offered himself for arrest so he could get his dog secured.

I don't know... Not something as clearly cowardly as this act for sure.

I'm with you wooly in my opinion it was a bullshit arrest from the get go. Let's arrest a jackass for running his mouth. The police caused the situation and I hope someone holds them accountable.

 

[jmurphy75]

Wow.

A coward? You don't f around with dogs like that. They can very easily cause a serious injury.

What's hilarious is the manner in which you attack the cop's decision making. Yours is even far more irrational and you weren't even caught in the exigencies of the moment!

Actually it's not that hard to attack the cops decision making skills....they were bullshit. If the police arrested every jackass that ran their mouth from down the street they would never get anything else done. It was a waste of time and absolutely stupid decision

 

[Irishnuke]

It sucks but they had to shoot the dog. If this idiot would have kept his mouth shut and not provoked the police his dog would have been just fine. Too bad the dog was loyal to that moron.

 

[magogian]

Actually it's not that hard to attack the cops decision making skills....they were bullshit. If the police arrested every jackass that ran their mouth from down the street they would never get anything else done. It was a waste of time and absolutely stupid decision

Too bad the facts don't fit your narrative. Guy was arrested because he refused to turn down his car audio. The cops were at the scene because of an armed robbery. And the guy's music was making it difficult for them to hear if something went wrong with the cops investigating the house.

"Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly."

"A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, 'It's my (expletive) radio!'"

Hawthorne police kill dog during arrest of owner, video of shooting goes viral - The Daily Breeze

 

[BGIF]

It took me awhile searching. Most of the links were to blogs who knew nothing but what they saw on the video. Finally found a link to a local station with a brief article and a video on the incident.

Max is Dead: Justified Dog Shooting or Revenge? - Los Angeles Local News, Weather, and Traffic

(SEE second video at right below newscast)


The dod was Max, an 80 pound Rottweiler owned by Leon Rosby the guy in handcuffs. As best I can determine police responded to a burglary/raid/hostage situation. In the first video cops can be scene at a house on the right of the police cars.

Two cops come across the street but don't seem to have contact with Rosby. They walk down the last side of the street opposite the house with the police activity. After a minute or two the two cops walk back toward Rosby who puts his dog in the car with the windows rolled down. (I read elsewhere it was quite hot) Rosby then walks toward the cops turns and "assumes the position". So apparently there was some conversation between he and the cops as he put the dog up (unsecured) then surrendered for the handcuffs.

As the cops are walking him toward a police car, the dog leaps out, a third cop comes across the street and pulls out his gun and also reaches for the dog's leash or vice versa. (I don't know what he was planning on doing with the 80 pounds of upset Rottweiler IF he had grasped the leash.) the dog lunges and he shoots hitting the dog.

The bloggers claim the police arrested him for interfering and or filming. Everybody was filming. The first video is shot by spectators on the far corner (possibly where they were told to stand ala Calabrese). Another guy is visible in the first video to the left of Rosby but he then withdraws. About that time Rosby walks across the street behind the police cars presumably to get a closer shot. But he doesn't seem to be serious about the shot as he kind of waves the camera with his outstretched arm. Was he trying for better picture or simply provoking the cops looking foe an arrest?

Reportedly there is history between Rosby and the Hawthorne PD. Prior arrest(s) and a lawsuit. Expect another one.

In retrospect if the cop walking up the street planned to arrest Rosby, possibly should have directed Rosby to stand near the vehicle and called for Animal Control. I don't know what protocol is but someone was going to have to deal with a big unsecured dog regardless. I don't blame the third cop for shooting the loyal dog trying to protect his owner.

My wife and I rescue dogs. My sister-in-law stopped her car on a 4 lane road to rescue a 60 pound pit bull thrown out of car doing 40 mph. She hit her flashers, then the brakes, and stopped. Got out of the car and got the stunned dog by the collar. Put it in her car and went to the vet. Paid the bills and raised it for several years. We're dog people. We would have shot the S.O.B. who provoked the cops to get arrested. Succeeded and got his dog killed in the process.

 

[kmoose]

I hope that guy sues the **** out of them. He offered himself for arrest. They could have simply let him get control of his dog. The dog had a leash on for crying out loud.

A lazy, heartless officer. If that is an example of his decision making ability, one should question if he should be allowed to make judgement decisions when people's lives are danger. He obviously shoots first and asks questions later.

What were they even arresting him for anyway? For taping them on his phone? That cop is a coward, plain and simple.

Wah, wah, wah. When the officers instructed him to secure his dog in his vehicle, he could have rolled the windows up to the point where the dog had some air, but could not just leap out of the window. If I were the officers, I think I would have just backed up a bit, instead of shooting the dog. But, let's not forget that there was some kind of (apparently) armed standoff going on, directly behind them. So they probably were not in a position to show a lot of patience, to a situation which required them to have their backs turned to the armed standoff. It certainly COULD have been handled differently, but let's not get all pious and righteous about it.

 

[ACamp1900]

Dude should've had a cat....

 

[magogian]

Dude should've had a cat....

+1.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

That was a pussy *** cop. Should be fired.

I support responsible firearm ownership. When some clown gets a badge and does something like this it's the worst possible scenario for responsible gun owners.

Clearly demonstrated they do not possess the requisite mental discipline to be law enforcement. Fired with cause is a no brainer for most departments.. Los Angeles P.D. however...

 

[arrowryan]

So if a drunk guy threatens this cop outside a bar is the cop gonna shoot him too?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

So if a drunk guy threatens this cop outside a bar is the cop gonna shoot him too?

I love dogs, but this idea that their life is comparable to a human one baffles me. I don't agree with shooting the dog, but c'mon, this is a bad comparison.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lot of bad stuff going on in the video. I saw it yesterday. Some people will criticize the owner for not rolling up the windows in the car, others will criticize the officer for firing his weapon first as oppose to letting the owner handle it or use pepper spray/tazer. Can't win really, mistakes were made all over the place and a dog is dead that was just trying to protect his owner. A human's life is more important than a dog's, but this could have been handled where no person or dog was injured.

 

[arrowryan]

I love dogs, but this idea that their life is comparable to a human one baffles me. I don't agree with shooting the dog, but c'mon, this is a bad comparison.

But it sure makes me wonder what he would do to a human being.

 

[Ben E.]

#1 rule as a cop is to make it home alive and safe and most police in this situation do the same thing this guy did. I love the clowns who speak as if the cop should've let the dog bite him first then shot it. Also, by letting someone who is cuffed out of cuffs further increases the danger to yourself. He could've changed his mind and had a gun in the car(see rule #1). Most people who claim cops are pu$$ys wouldn't survive one day on the job. Its ignorant to call someone a coward when it pertains to something you either know nothing about or don't understand. The owner of the dog is really to blame but that stance isn't as cool as yelling eff da police. Lol

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Very tough situation and we all are "Monday morning QBs" in this situation. Sad all the way around.

Interesting listening/reading all the different points of view on the situation- divided- like our country.