Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[Blazers46]

My original comment about the statue was just a way of saying Kelly will always be a legendary coach for ND. Like him or hate him, he’s ND all time winningest coach. Statue, I will concede that point, it was said with a hint of sarcasm. But he will be a fixture in ND football forever. We can’t have him fall on his face and become another Bob Davis or Charlie Weis post ND football. It’s like showing my kids and my wife all of my ex girlfriends. There are some really good ones and some “what the hell was I thinking”. It’s embarrassing to some extent.

Side note: am I the only where half my ex girlfriends from HS and college got really fat?

 

[Green Mountains]

I think that BK failing at LSU helps ND immensely. It shows that ND was actually closer than it appeared. And all the "the SEC is the only power in College Football" types (Paul Finebaum) might need to acknowledge that ND's formula is/was actually unique and differentiated. It just needed a leader with passion and grit (Lou Holtz / MF ?1?) to take it over the top.

So here's to a 4-7 LSU 2022 and a 5-6 2023.

And Brian Kelly never gets a status or a bust or a plaque. I like what he did to get ND back into prominence, but he was always about BK before ND.

 

[CoachB]

Lion, everything you said here makes so much sense, and I wish I could be as big a man as you...but I just can't help but think "*uck that man."

I want Kelly to do really well at LSU. All my SEC friends say, yeah he won a lot of games at Notre Dame, but wait until he plays against the big boys. If he does well at LSU, it will show that the mighty SEC doesn't have that much of a better schedule than Notre Dame does. If he does poorly they will all say, see he can win with ND's crappy schedule, but give him a real SEC schedule and he can't win. Would look bad for ND if he does poorly, IMO.

 

[DONTH8]

I think that BK failing at LSU helps ND immensely. It shows that ND was actually closer than it appeared. And all the "the SEC is the only power in College Football" types (Paul Finebaum) might need to acknowledge that ND's formula is/was actually unique and differentiated. It just needed a leader with passion and grit (Lou Holtz / MF ?1?) to take it over the top.

So here's to a 4-7 LSU 2022 and a 5-6 2023.

And Brian Kelly never gets a status or a bust or a plaque. I like what he did to get ND back into prominence, but he was always about BK before ND.

This is how I would spin it. But Finebaum, and every other pundit, would absolutely lean into the whole narrative that our schedule allowed Kelly to win 10-12 games.

 

[Blazers46]

This is how I would spin it. But Finebaum, and every other pundit, would absolutely lean into the whole narrative that our schedule allowed Kelly to win 10-12 games.

They will spin it anyway that makes them look good.

 

[ACamp1900]

They will spin it anyway that makes them look good.

Yeah no matter what BK does moving forward it'll be spun by ESecPN and the like in a bad light for Notre Dame.

 

[Rasputin]

My original comment about the statue was just a way of saying Kelly will always be a legendary coach for ND. Like him or hate him, he’s ND all time winningest coach. Statue, I will concede that point, it was said with a hint of sarcasm. But he will be a fixture in ND football forever. We can’t have him fall on his face and become another Bob Davis or Charlie Weis post ND football. It’s like showing my kids and my wife all of my ex girlfriends. There are some really good ones and some “what the hell was I thinking”. It’s embarrassing to some extent.

Side note: am I the only where half my ex girlfriends from HS and college got really fat?

Which half? The top half? Rasputin sees no issues.

 

[Blazers46]

Yeah no matter what BK does moving forward it'll be spun by ESecPN and the like in a bad light for Notre Dame.

ND could win the national championship and it will because it was a down year in the SEC.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Notre Dame will make its own way. If Freeman is really good, we will be really good, and Coach Freeman will have Coach Kelly in large part to thank for that. Freeman and Kelly will probably remain good colleagues --- Kelly after-all gave him the opportunity at Notre Dame. If Freeman is really good at all things defense, we will be really good defensively --- if somehow we can get to also be really good offensively (i.e. finally an elite quarterback,) we'll contend and everyone will shut up and no one will really any longer care about how Coach does/did at LSU. Perfection would be playing him for the title (after he beat Alabama), and we winning. I don't view such a thing as impossible by the way.

I've always liked Coach. I like his organizational skills, his knowledge and understanding that you can't have a great program without great basic support and structure, his willingness to sit players who will not buy into the total scheme, his honoring his veterans (when at all appropriate), his willingness to sacrifice his time (life) off the field to feed alumni egos while also doing charity, and on and on. I hope that he wins at LSU, beats Alabama back into the rest of the field ... and loses at least one national championship to Notre Dame which he still has a big place in his heart for. (Coach immediately responded to my letter about my Mom's aging years with a signed picture and a very personally written letter honoring her own love for Notre Dame --- as did Coach Holtz by the way.)

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Notre Dame will make its own way. If Freeman is really good, we will be really good, and Coach Freeman will have Coach Kelly in large part to thank for that. Freeman and Kelly will probably remain good colleagues --- Kelly after-all gave him the opportunity at Notre Dame. If Freeman is really good at all things defense, we will be really good defensively --- if somehow we can get to also be really good offensively (i.e. finally an elite quarterback,) we'll contend and everyone will shut up and no one will really any longer care about how Coach does/did at LSU. Perfection would be playing him for the title (after he beat Alabama), and we winning. I don't view such a thing as impossible by the way.

I've always liked Coach. I like his organizational skills, his knowledge and understanding that you can't have a great program without great basic support and structure, his willingness to sit players who will not buy into the total scheme, his honoring his veterans (when at all appropriate), his willingness to sacrifice his time (life) off the field to feed alumni egos while also doing charity, and on and on. I hope that he wins at LSU, beats Alabama back into the rest of the field ... and loses at least one national championship to Notre Dame which he still has a big place in his heart for. (Coach immediately responded to my letter about my Mom's aging years with a signed picture and a very personally written letter honoring her own love for Notre Dame --- as did Coach Holtz by the way.)

That's the most disappointingly humanizing thing that's been posted in this emotionally-fueled thread.

 

[ACamp1900]

ND could win the national championship and it will because it was a down year in the SEC.

I honestly thought this when ND played Bama... "If our boys pull it off Bama will suddenly be having a down year..."

On the girlfriend thing... those I still have even social media contact with, all turned out to be very attractive,... not that I'm regretful as I honestly love my wife and she's quite attractive too but I am surprised how well they all aged.

 

[Old Man Mike]

... and although I hate dirtying myself with the following crud, I just read the post trying to lay scandals at Coach's door.

It wasn't Kelly's job to call off the photo recon that day that the young man died due to the scaffolding. There was an official who was supposed to be monitoring the weather and telling the young man to stand down. Someone didn't do their job in a risky situation. It was not Coach.
The academic "scandals." What a load of guano to bring up and try to lay on Coach. These are the remarks of prejudice. And Prince Shembo and the St. Mary's girl. We here at IE got as good as you can get of the backstory there. (I won't go into the problem of parents sending their child away from home while still on strong anti-depressant medicines, or the fact that this was a civil case as far as court was concerned, or the fact that the later pop-journalist was a female who had been raped and (rightly) had a bit of a prejudiced point of view and only interviewed and quoted the (guilty) parents, or that Shembo did this on his own at a party not chaperoned by Coach, or that it wasn't rape but fondling) but will only say that Coach had NOTHING to do with this anymore than all of us who use resources from Ukraine and Russia should take serious blame for the current war.

Sh!t like this drives me crazy.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

... and although I hate dirtying myself with the following crud, I just read the post trying to lay scandals at Coach's door.

It wasn't Kelly's job to call off the photo recon that day that the young man died due to the scaffolding. There was an official who was supposed to be monitoring the weather and telling the young man to stand down. Someone didn't do their job in a risky situation. It was not Coach.
The academic "scandals." What a load of guano to bring up and try to lay on Coach. These are the remarks of prejudice. And Prince Shembo and the St. Mary's girl. We here at IE got as good as you can get of the backstory there. (I won't go into the problem of parents sending their child away from home while still on strong anti-depressant medicines, or the fact that this was a civil case as far as court was concerned, or the fact that the later pop-journalist was a female who had been raped and (rightly) had a bit of a prejudiced point of view and only interviewed and quoted the (guilty) parents, or that Shembo did this on his own at a party not chaperoned by Coach, or that it wasn't rape but fondling) but will only say that Coach had NOTHING to do with this anymore than all of us who use resources from Ukraine and Russia should take serious blame for the current war.

Sh!t like this drives me crazy.

Though I don't feel like I really need to defend myself, I'll indulge.

If you read my original post more carefully, I wasn't saying that I'm blaming him for these situations that occurred. All I said is that there are people I know who have ties to the University that do. Hell, there are posters here and a whole army of less-fortunate fans (ND Nation, for starters) who hold these beliefs.

Am I wrong to have brought them up? Idk, maybe, and if so my bad, I guess. Though I personally don't think things of this nature should be taboo. I was merely pointing out the reservations some folks had about him ever hypothetically getting a statue, National Championship or not.

It was not meant as a smear campaign, merely in direct correlation with the statue discussion. My issue with BK present day is the timing in which he chose to leave, on the cusp of a potential, and very possible, playoff berth at the time. I have a long history on this board prior to December 2021 of defending him in the BK, Revisited thread.

 

[Blazers46]

I honestly thought this when ND played Bama... "If our boys pull it off Bama will suddenly be having a down year..."

On the girlfriend thing... those I still have even social media contact with, all turned out to be very attractive,... not that I'm regretful as I honestly love my wife and she's quite attractive too but I am surprised how well they all aged.

I have 1 trophy X I guess. The rest are either fat stay at home moms or got their hands on meth or cocaine. But I am from Elkhart, IN. Sort of expected in that area.

Edit - Brian Kelly sucks.... had to stay on point.

 

[ACamp1900]

I have 1 trophy X I guess. The rest are either fat stay at home moms or got their hands on meth or cocaine. But I am from Elkhart, IN. Sort of expected in that area.

Edit - Brian Kelly sucks.... had to stay on point.

I grew up in So Cal but the cracked out, desert, meth head version,... not the beach front version... so it's kind of expected most of us don't age well... and whenever I run into old friends from school it tends to go that way... not with my exs however. In fairness i had a few really long term relationships and didn't bounce around a ton so we are only talking a handful of people.

 

[irishog77]

I honestly thought this when ND played Bama... "If our boys pull it off Bama will suddenly be having a down year..."

On the girlfriend thing... those I still have even social media contact with, all turned out to be very attractive dudes,... not that I'm regretful as I honestly love my wife and she's quite attractive too but I am surprised how well they all aged.

FIFY

 

[Blazers46]

I grew up in So Cal but the cracked out, desert, meth head version,... not the beach front version... so it's kind of expected most of us don't age well... and whenever I run into old friends from school it tends to go that way... not with my exs however. In fairness i had a few really long term relationships and didn't bounce around a ton so we are only talking a handful of people.

Its amazing what a little exercise and eating habits/other habits can do a persons aging. To stay on topic Brian Kelly is fat....

 

[Old Man Mike]

Coach Kelly is a 60-year old ex-linebacker. He's approximately 5'7" and 200 pounds.
He initiated his own weight loss program when he hired on as NDs coach. I'm assuming
that he's a little like me in that a high stress job tempts snacking. My guess is that he's
in pretty good shape considering those stresses.

 

[Blazers46]

Coach Kelly is a 60-year old ex-linebacker. He's approximately 5'7" and 200 pounds.
He initiated his own weight loss program when he hired on as NDs coach. I'm assuming
that he's a little like me in that a high stress job tempts snacking. My guess is that he's
in pretty good shape considering those stresses.

If he walked the full 18 holes he could eat whatever he wanted.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Saint Brian Kelly, we get it.

On another note, those videos with LSU recruits are fantastic; definitely not awkward or creepy in the slightest. Man, I just wish I was an 17 year old recruit with a dream of going to LSU to play football so I could join St. Kelly on that platform under those flashing purple lights.

Is that better?

 

[irishog77]

Coach Kelly is a 60-year old ex-linebacker. He's approximately 5'7" and 200 pounds.
He initiated his own weight loss program when he hired on as NDs coach. I'm assuming
that he's a little like me in that a high stress job tempts snacking. My guess is that he's
in pretty good shape considering those stresses.

Source?

If true, that makes him obese. Per the cdc.

 

[ulukinatme]

I thank Kelly for the gains he made to help bring ND back to the national discussion, but no...no statue. He just fell short of that discussion, even if the deck was stacked against him still.

 

[NorthDakota]

Source?

If true, that makes him obese. Per the cdc.

In America, we call him a chubby guy with a Dad bod.

 

[ulukinatme]

Source?

If true, that makes him obese. Per the cdc.

Oof, CDC.

Taking into consideration just height and weight has never been an accurate barometer for health. There's too many other factors, like muscle mass and age.

 

[irishog77]

Oof, CDC.

Taking into consideration just height and weight has never been an accurate barometer for health. There's too many other factors, like muscle mass and age.

I'm very aware. And don't get me started on the ridiculousness of it.

I've been involved in parameters and guidelines for funding and executing obesity studies and treating obese patients.

Nonetheless, a 5'7 200lb Burnt Ends is easily considered obese, according to the cdc.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Kelly might get a statue at ND one day. I would think it would look really bad to a have a legendary coach fall on his face. 5 years from now recruits will be walking the halls and seeing his face.

I would drive to South Bend and tear it down.

 

[Blazers46]

I would drive to South Bend and tear it down.

I think a statue of the infamous red face would look awesome somewhere on campus. Maybe on the 18th hole at the golf course.

 

[Valpodoc85]

The only way he gets a statue is he pays for it himself. With LSU money he may be able to do that

 

[Irish4life]

Only coaches that win national titles get statues at ND. Kelly was a good coach who ran a good program here, but no national title = no statue.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think a statue of the infamous red face would look awesome somewhere on campus. Maybe on the 18th hole at the golf course.

My favorite sportscrack.com shirt is still the purple faced Kelly that says "Don't Poke the Bear." I've worn it even after Kelly calmed down