Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[NDbrbkny]

got some trouble at lsu had to fire mens bb coach maybe football getting swept up?

 

[Irishbounty28]

That would be so epic if LSU gets sanctioned to death and BK has to ride the burning ship to the ground. I’m not putting much stock into it though. Kinda like dumping your old lady who treats you right, for the hot girl that ends up having herpes.

 

[irishog77]

That would be so epic if LSU gets sanctioned to death and BK has to ride the burning ship to the ground. I’m not putting much stock into it though. Kinda like dumping your old lady who treats you right, for the hot girl that ends up having herpes.

Spoken from experience?

 

[NDdomer2]

I thought BKs contract was pretty iron tight for things like this. Iirc, if the AD gets canned his entire contract is guaranteed. So he could take another job and still get his $$ in the event big time sanctions come down.

 

[Ndaccountant]

That would be so epic if LSU gets sanctioned to death and BK has to ride the burning ship to the ground. I’m not putting much stock into it though. Kinda like dumping your old lady who treats you right, for the hot girl that ends up having herpes.

Except in this ANALogy, the hot girl is a known slut that just broke-up with a dude nicknamed "leaky" because he always had a drip.

 

[Irishbounty28]

Spoken from experience?

I knew a guy. Lol

 

[Irishbounty28]

I thought BKs contract was pretty iron tight for things like this. Iirc, if the AD gets canned his entire contract is guaranteed. So he could take another job and still get his $$ in the event big time sanctions come down.

Get his money but won’t be able to win that elusive Championship. Dudes already rich. I know there are a lot of people that think the money was the biggest motivator, but I don’t buy it. He went there because he fancies himself a better coach than Saban, and wants to play by the same rules so it is “fair”.

 

[HouseofPain]

Get his money but won’t be able to win that elusive Championship. Dudes already rich. I know there are a lot of people that think the money was the biggest motivator, but I don’t buy it. He went there because he fancies himself a better coach than Saban, and wants to play by the same rules so it is “fair”.

Yet he so is not

 

[Irish#1]

LSU implemented a few of their own sanctions once the Orgeron thing came to light, but I'm pretty sure the NCAA hasn't made any ruling yet. IMO Kelly was aware that the hammer may eventually come down and the reason for the high guaranteed salary. Could be why the two other coaches (can't remember their names) turned down the job. Thus LSU realized they had to go big with a guarantee to get a proven coach.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I assumed this got bumped because of another creepy BK grinding session with a teenager.

If anything it seems like this would give BK a longer leash to get the program back on track. Gives him an immediate excuse to fall back on if things take time to take off in the event they do get sanctioned.

 

[NorthDakota]

Get his money but won’t be able to win that elusive Championship. Dudes already rich. I know there are a lot of people that think the money was the biggest motivator, but I don’t buy it. He went there because he fancies himself a better coach than Saban, and wants to play by the same rules so it is “fair”.

I get the frustration of coaching at Notre Dame and being annoyed when other teams have dudes who are basically Forrest Gump (ironically, an All-American himself) while Notre Dame's idea of a dumb student-athlete is probably somewhere around me on the ACT/SAT spectrum.

BK will do well down there I'm sure. He's done well at every school. He succeeded at Notre Dame where the four previous guys could not. Maybe he'll prove he can take on Saban with access to similar Bois (punny).

 

[NDisme]

Yea I think those hoping BK falls on his face aren’t going to get what they want. He knows how to run a successful program. The thing with him at ND was, everyone asked the question has BK taken ND as far as they can go? That answer I believe is 100% No. BK took ND as far as he was willing or able to take them. At LSU i think he can run the program the way he wants while not having to work as hard as he would have to get ND to that next level.

 

[stlnd01]

Yea I think those hoping BK falls on his face aren’t going to get what they want. He knows how to run a successful program. The thing with him at ND was, everyone asked the question has BK taken ND as far as they can go? That answer I believe is 100% No. BK took ND as far as he was willing or able to take them. At LSU i think he can run the program the way he wants while not having to work as hard as he would have to get ND to that next level.

Yep. BK is going to win a lot of games at LSU. Whether he wins a title, I don't know. But he has spent 30 years building and running successful college football programs. Much better at that part than Orgeron or Miles. And look what they accomplished with the talent at hand in that state.

 

[NDdomer2]

Get his money but won’t be able to win that elusive Championship. Dudes already rich. I know there are a lot of people that think the money was the biggest motivator, but I don’t buy it. He went there because he fancies himself a better coach than Saban, and wants to play by the same rules so it is “fair”.

in the scenario discussed BK is likely no longer at LSU and the ability to win there is null and void.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Les Miles and Ed O won at LSU. As much as it pains me to say old Baloney Tits Burnt Ends BK has a good chance of being successful at LSU.

 

[DONTH8]

Les Miles and Ed O won at LSU. As much as it pains me to say old Baloney Tits Burnt Ends BK has a good chance of being successful at LSU.

I agree, really our only hope is a culture clash like Joe Moorhead or something where the players don't respond to his form of coaching/recruiting. But obviously, he is doing a decent job trying to become someone from the Bayou. He has always been a good politician in that sense. He could talk to a room of teachers, a room of CEOs, and a high school football team in 3 consecutive meetings and never miss a beat.

I think he will be successful. Will he win the Natty? I don't think so. He'll still need the stars to align with a bad Bama/Georgia team and an Elite LSU team. but I would be shocked if he wasn't winning 10+ games consistently and the division every few years.

 

[irishog77]

Les Miles and Ed O won at LSU. As much as it pains me to say old Baloney Tits Burnt Ends BK has a good chance of being successful at LSU.

Auto reps for "Baloney Tits."

 

[HouseofPain]

Yep. BK is going to win a lot of games at LSU. Whether he wins a title, I don't know. But he has spent 30 years building and running successful college football programs. Much better at that part than Orgeron or Miles. And look what they accomplished with the talent at hand in that state.

I dont think so. Miles was able to adapt to the Louisiana community. BK will not. BK has always reeked of fakeness and arrogance. He wont fit into the culture well. Orgeron just wants not a very good coach and caught fire with NFL talent. When that talent left for the NFL, the team lived in the basement. There is too much talent in the SEC for BK to win week in week out. If you really think about it, when has BK ever been successful with any programs against the SEC? With Cinn, the team got destroyed playing FL. With ND, outside of LSU, he never beat a SEC team to my memory.

Personally, I have never found BK a tier one coach even when he was ND's coach and I think most of you would really agree if you look back.

 

[Rogue219]

 

[DONTH8]

I dont think so. Miles was able to adapt to the Louisiana community. BK will not. BK has always reeked of fakeness and arrogance. He wont fit into the culture well. Orgeron just wants not a very good coach and caught fire with NFL talent. When that talent left for the NFL, the team lived in the basement. There is too much talent in the SEC for BK to win week in week out. If you really think about it, when has BK ever been successful with any programs against the SEC? With Cinn, the team got destroyed playing FL. With ND, outside of LSU, he never beat a SEC team to my memory.

Personally, I have never found BK a tier one coach even when he was ND's coach and I think most of you would really agree if you look back.

Vandy

 

[HouseofPain]

Vandy

Cmon man, the school of the blind beats Vandy.

 

[DONTH8]

Cmon man, the school of the blind beats Vandy.

This was pre-female kicker

 

[stlnd01]

If you really think about it, when has BK ever been successful with any programs against the SEC? With Cinn, the team got destroyed playing FL. With ND, outside of LSU, he never beat a SEC team to my memory.

Personally, I have never found BK a tier one coach even when he was ND's coach and I think most of you would really agree if you look back.

Aside from two bowl games against LSU, the home-and-home with Georgia and the BCS/CFP games with 'Bama, Notre Dame didn't play any SEC teams under Kelly (except Vandy). That's a pretty small sample size and I'm not sure that it says anything about his ability to coach LSU to wins over the likes of Ole Miss and Auburn and Tennessee.

At LSU he'll have access to top-tier SEC talent without even having to work very hard for it. What they need is someone who can put the systems in place to maximize that talent and not lose the games they shouldn't, and BK's as proven as anyone in college football at that part. I know we don't like him anymore (I know some people never liked him), and I wouldn't predict he'll top Saban to win his natty. But the notion that BK will fall on his face at LSU feels a bit like butthurt wishful thinking, TBH. They'll routinely win 10. Until he's run off for not winning 12.

 

[IrishRazor82]

BK is going to have a lot more tough games he won't get credit for. Everything will be Bama/A&M/Georgia/Florida but Miss At, Auburn, Tennessee are not layups and very well would have beaten a BK ND team. He's going to have far tougher middle of the road games than he had here.

On the flip side, dude had 1 losing season in like 40 years so he knows how to win.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I dont think so. Miles was able to adapt to the Louisiana community. BK will not. BK has always reeked of fakeness and arrogance. He wont fit into the culture well. Orgeron just wants not a very good coach and caught fire with NFL talent. When that talent left for the NFL, the team lived in the basement. There is too much talent in the SEC for BK to win week in week out. If you really think about it, when has BK ever been successful with any programs against the SEC? With Cinn, the team got destroyed playing FL. With ND, outside of LSU, he never beat a SEC team to my memory.

Personally, I have never found BK a tier one coach even when he was ND's coach and I think most of you would really agree if you look back.

He didn't even coach that Cincy team in the game against Florida. And then we're excluding wins against Vanderbilt and LSU.

So what you're saying is 4 games against Georgia and Alabama prove he can't beat SEC teams?

 

[Bishop2b5]

The idea that BK will suddenly have all this SEC talent is not necessarily true. I understand that he won't have the same restrictions he had at ND and will be able to recruit athletes at LSU that he couldn't before, but they also won't just fall into his lap and beat his door down to sign with him. Recruiting in the SEC is competitive, to say the least. One of the issues Miles and Orgeron had was that they couldn't lock down LA talent. Saban, especially, consistently raided the talent in that state, and others pulled the occasional top player too. BK has a rep for not liking to recruit. He better get over that or he'll get run out of Baton Rouge. Recruiting down there is a 24/7/365 kinda thing and takes a LOT of work to keep up with the other major programs.

 

[stlnd01]

The idea that BK will suddenly have all this SEC talent is not necessarily true. I understand that he won't have the same restrictions he had at ND and will be able to recruit athletes at LSU that he couldn't before, but they also won't just fall into his lap and beat his door down to sign with him. Recruiting in the SEC is competitive, to say the least. One of the issues Miles and Orgeron had was that they couldn't lock down LA talent. Saban, especially, consistently raided the talent in that state, and others pulled the occasional top player too. BK has a rep for not liking to recruit. He better get over that or he'll get run out of Baton Rouge. Recruiting down there is a 24/7/365 kinda thing and takes a LOT of work to keep up with the other major programs.

Of course SEC recruiting is competitive, but before this year (when they only signed 15 kids) LSU has had a Top 5-ranked recruiting class seven of the last nine seasons. When it comes to acquiring talent, they get the ball with exceedingly good field position.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Of course SEC recruiting is competitive, but before this year (when they only signed 15 kids) LSU has had a Top 5-ranked recruiting class seven of the last nine seasons. When it comes to acquiring talent, they get the ball with exceedingly good field position.

Yeah - and Orgeron is 5X the recruiter BK is...

 

[chisea03]

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[IRISHDODGER]

Of course SEC recruiting is competitive, but before this year (when they only signed 15 kids) LSU has had a Top 5-ranked recruiting class seven of the last nine seasons. When it comes to acquiring talent, they get the ball with exceedingly good field position.

Exactly. Yes, they lose out to Saban here & there but even BK will be able to pull most of the in-state talent. Most of those LA kids grow up wanting to attend LSU regardless of the HC. BK has to overcome his lack of recruiting acumen (vs Orgeron) w/ superior coaching by him & his staff. Should be interesting.