Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[KPENN]

Politicking for the SEC while ND prepares for the playoffs. Good shit right there

 

[IrishSpartan]

Seems like a mass exodus is about to happen

 

[ndfanatic78]

He's not wrong though. If all that mattered was wins, Army would have a better shot of getting in the playoff than Alabama.

Army should have a better shot. It’s not their fault that the BIG and SEC are trying to shut out all other teams from having a legit shot at the playoffs or stepping up into the upper echelon. It’s not the other 90% of college teams fault they aren’t aloud to play “power” teams in the 2 major conferences. The BIG and SEC did this to themselves and I am really hoping it blows up in their face and the other teams outside the 2 majors start stocking talent because the top teams outside the BIG and SEC will have a much easier path to stepping into the upper echelon / at large bids because of the weaker teams they have to schedule due to the monopolization created by the BIG and SEC.

 

[Old Man Mike]

His comment about not being looked down on because you don't have one extra win can be seen as directly favorable towards Notre Dame (without the extra conference championship game) as well. I see nothing bad for us in those comments. In typical years we have monstrously high SOS.

 

[IrishBoognish]

He's not wrong though. If all that mattered was wins, Army would have a better shot of getting in the playoff than Alabama.

No... he's wrong

They have a stronger SOS than us but lost to both the teams we both played. TAMU and USC

Wins matter first and foremost, then talk about SOS if all things are equal.

Army isn't a good example because they're not even in a real conference.

 

[IrishLax]

Reminder he is complaining about NIL when he literally has 5-star players saying “I wish I could’ve gone to a different school but LSU paid more”:

 

[Irish du Nord]

Politicking for the SEC while ND prepares for the playoffs. Good shit right there

Hope he's enjoying his retirement! First round of Sazeracs are on him!

 

[Irish#1]

Reminder he is complaining about NIL when he literally has 5-star players saying “I wish I could’ve gone to a different school but LSU paid more”:

You know his heart will be in it.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Reminder he is complaining about NIL when he literally has 5-star players saying “I wish I could’ve gone to a different school but LSU paid more”:

Solomon, blink twice if BK is dancing behind you while pointing finger guns


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[HouseofPain]

Reminder he is complaining about NIL when he literally has 5-star players saying “I wish I could’ve gone to a different school but LSU paid more”:

What a piece of work

 

[NDShark]

Gaslight BK

 

[IrishLion]

The strength of schedule thing is a bullshit mirage.

The B1G and SEC run the sport, so they dictate the “strength”…

But look at the teams that are favorites to win their leagues, and look at what leagues they were in last year.

If Oregon were 12-0 in the PAC12, we’d be debating whether or not that’s better than 11-1 Penn State in the B1G. If Texas were in the Big12, we’d be talking about how far they’d drop if they were upset in their CCG.

As it turns out, the B1G and the SEC are the same as every other conference: a few good teams building to making runs year by year, and susceptible to being run by other good teams at any moment.

Are Oregon and Texas suddenly two of the best in the country because of their league? No, they’re just good football teams, period.

This is why I laugh every time some dork on Twitter is like “Yeah, but put ND in the SEC and see how they do! It’s a tougher grind!” These fools are brainwashed to think that playing Kentucky is more punishing than playing any other 4-8 football team.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

The strength of schedule thing is a bullshit mirage.

The B1G and SEC run the sport, so they dictate the “strength”…

But look at the teams that are favorites to win their leagues, and look at what leagues they were in last year.

If Oregon were 12-0 in the PAC12, we’d be debating whether or not that’s better than 11-1 Penn State in the B1G. If Texas were in the Big12, we’d be talking about how far they’d drop if they were upset in their CCG.

As it turns out, the B1G and the SEC are the same as every other conference: a few good teams building to making runs year by year, and susceptible to being run by other good teams at any moment.

Are Oregon and Texas suddenly two of the best in the country because of their league? No, they’re just good football teams, period.

This is why I laugh every time some dork on Twitter is like “Yeah, but put ND in the SEC and see how they do! It’s a tougher grind!” These fools are brainwashed to think that playing Kentucky is more punishing than playing any other 4-8 football team.

I think the argument that has merit is when you compare the bottom half of each conferences, the SEC has more talented teams than say, the BIG.

It would be fairly safe to argue Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Auburn, Kentucky, Miss State are far tougher outs collectively than USC, Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Maryland, and Purdue this particular season.


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[Irish du Nord]

I think the argument that has merit is when you compare the bottom half of each conferences, the SEC has more talented teams than say, the BIG.

It would be fairly safe to argue Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Auburn, Kentucky, Miss State are far tougher outs collectively than USC, Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Maryland, and Purdue this particular season.


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Far tougher? Not this year. I don’t think those teams are far tougher than anybody

 

[Ndaccountant]

Far tougher? Not this year. I don’t think those teams are far tougher than anybody

For real. Lsu lost to USC, Arkansas lost to 3-9 Okie state, and on and on and on.

No doubt that there were some stinkers in the BIG 10 this year, but the grouping in general isn't as far apart as we are lead to presume.

 

[Irish du Nord]

For real. Lsu lost to USC, Arkansas lost to 3-9 Okie state, and on and on and on.

No doubt that there were some stinkers in the BIG 10 this year, but the grouping in general isn't as far apart as we are lead to presume.

Vandy lost to 3-9 Georgia State!

 

[Hautian Domer]

I think the argument that has merit is when you compare the bottom half of each conferences, the SEC has more talented teams than say, the BIG.

It would be fairly safe to argue Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Auburn, Kentucky, Miss State are far tougher outs collectively than USC, Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Maryland, and Purdue this particular season.


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I agree, but it’s a weird year. NIL and the Portal have prevented teams (Alabama, Georgia) from just stockpiling talent. In the past, their 2nd team (and sometimes 3rd) would roll others 1st team. Now, they can transfer for playing time (or, let’s be honest with ourselves, more money). I still think the SEC schools have more “talent” in their roster. That always doesn’t equate to wins, however.

 

[jprue24]

Interconference records going back to 1998. Now you guys can use some data instead of feelings.

NCAAF Conference Records - topdan.com

Complete list of inter-conference games since 1998 (the BCS and playoff eras).

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[Some Irish Bloke]

I think the argument that has merit is when you compare the bottom half of each conferences, the SEC has more talented teams than say, the BIG.

It would be fairly safe to argue Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Auburn, Kentucky, Miss State are far tougher outs collectively than USC, Nebraska, UCLA, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Maryland, and Purdue this particular season.


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You lost me by mentioning USC. They were literally a tough out for every opponent they played this year, even ND until those pick 6s. And I'm not trying to rush to the aid of our rival at all, but they are still very respected by almost all advnaced metrics as a top 25 team. They lost all of their games less than one score until ND, and led in the 4th quarter of all of their games until ND.

Yes, good teams find a way to win. But it's not a fluke that USC was talented enough to be in every single game they played entering the final quarter.

And Mississippi State? Come on lol they were 2-10 and got the doors blown off of them by Toledo

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Interconference records going back to 1998. Now you guys can use some data instead of feelings.

NCAAF Conference Records - topdan.com

Complete list of inter-conference games since 1998 (the BCS and playoff eras).

topdan.com

UGA, LSU and Alabama really carrying the weight for the SEC.

This is awesome. Thanks for posting.

 

[PolishDomer]

Interconference records going back to 1998. Now you guys can use some data instead of feelings.

NCAAF Conference Records - topdan.com

Complete list of inter-conference games since 1998 (the BCS and playoff eras).

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Biggest surprise is the Big East being the only conference to have a winning record vs the SEC...

 

[Irish#1]

You lost me by mentioning USC. They were literally a tough out for every opponent they played this year, even ND until those pick 6s. And I'm not trying to rush to the aid of our rival at all, but they are still very respected by almost all advnaced metrics as a top 25 team. They lost all of their games less than one score until ND, and led in the 4th quarter of all of their games until ND.

Yes, good teams find a way to win. But it's not a fluke that USC was talented enough to be in every single game they played entering the final quarter.

And Mississippi State? Come on lol they were 2-10 and got the doors blown off of them by Toledo

Are you saying they are the best 6-6 team out there?

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Are you saying they are the best 6-6 team out there?

Honestly they probably are lol. I always enjoy seeing USC Struggle but they might be one of the more unlucky teams in the country in recent memory. Then again, as I said, good teams find a way to win football games. Doesn't mean they aren't very talented.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Honestly they probably are lol. I always enjoy seeing USC Struggle but they might be one of the more unlucky teams in the country in recent memory. Then again, as I said, good teams find a way to win football games. Doesn't mean they aren't very talented.

If you lose that many close games, games in which you were ahead in the 4th quarter, that falls on the coach. Period.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

If you lose that many close games, games in which you were ahead in the 4th quarter, that falls on the coach. Period.

I tend to agree. The Lincoln Riley rumors are there for a reason (UCF for starters). That $90M buyout is the only reason he might stick around in LA. He's been a complete failure, digressing more each of his three seasons.

 

[Valpodoc85]

Bad teams know how to lose good teams know how to win.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

There’s a good chance LSU loses their first game next season against Clemson.

Has a good coach ever lost 4 season openers in a row?

If LSU is favored against Clemson, they also will have been favored in all 4 games.


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[KPENN]

USC would c

There’s a good chance LSU loses their first game next season against Clemson.

Has a good coach ever lost 4 season openers in a row?

If LSU is favored against Clemson, they also will have been favored in all 4 games.


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BK1.0 had some bad starts too. They only started 2-0 three times? 2012, 2014, and 2015.

 

[irish4ever]

BK will make coaching changes this offseason. It's what he does when his back is against the wall.

Why? He already guaranteed LSU a natty in '25!