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Cackalacky2.0

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Maybe Bishop should spend a bit more time researching than "2 minutes"
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LMAO at Notre Dame College link.

Oops! My bad. Nice catch.

Holy Cross offers it as a major (https://www.hcc-nd.edu/sports-management) and ND is part of the Sports Management Institute program. (https://www.sportsmanagementinstitute.com/)

Apparently ND doesn't have a Sports Management program, but it's relatively common at many other schools such as Michigan, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, UF, Miami, and etc. It's certainly not a made up, underwater basket weaving program like MN thinks.
 

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You should probably do some research into what Sports Hospitality encompasses instead of saying stupid stuff like "stadium popcorn sales." I'll help you out. It's just the Sports Management (also known as Sports Administration at some schools) program renamed. And by the way, ND offers it as a major with several of your athletes majoring in it. Took me about 2 minutes to find the following, which you could've done too.

https://www.notredamecollege.edu/academicprograms/sport-management-major/

Students majoring in Sport Management will be able to:

Effectively apply a variety of oral and written business and professional communications styles.

Develop and use critical thinking models in order to analyze and solve problems in the sport industry.

Identify ethical dilemmas within the sport industry and display the conviction to act responsibly to one’s self, organization, and to the end users.

Effectively apply technology to analyze and interpret data and understand its power within the sport industry.

Work effectively in teams and appreciate and promote individual differences in all dimensions of diversity including ethnicity, gender, age, physical and abilities, sexual orientation, race, and religion.

http://www.sportmanagement.ches.ua.edu/

Careers in Sport Hospitality

The Olympic Movement
​ - The International Olympic Committee & United States Olympic Committee
- National sport governing bodies
- Various state governing bodies
State and City Sports Commissions
- City & state government sport agencies
- Parks & recreation departments
Sports Equipment and Supply industry
​ - Nike, Reebok, Adidas, New Balance
- Sporting Goods Manufacturer's Association
Professional Leagues
​ - National Football League
- Major League Baseball
- National Basketball Association
- Women's National Basketball Association
- National Hockey League
- Major League Soccer
Intercollegiate Athletics
​ - League or conference offices ( NCAA)
- Individual institutions
Sport Marketing Agencies
​ - International Management Group (IMG)
- Creative Artists Agency (CAA)
- ProServ
- Advantage International
Stadiums and Arenas
​ - Management positions
- Marketing & public relations
- Design & development
Event Management
​ - Creating & implementing sports events for sponsors
- Consulting on existing events
Individual Sports Associations
​ - PGA Tour
- LPGA Tour
- United States Tennis Association
- Motor Sports
- NASCAR
- Indy Racing League

Wait. Notre Dame has an Ohio campus? Why can’t Kelly get better recruits out of Ohio?
 

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Oops! My bad. Nice catch.

Holy Cross offers it as a major (https://www.hcc-nd.edu/sports-management) and ND is part of the Sports Management Institute program. (https://www.sportsmanagementinstitute.com/)

Apparently ND doesn't have a Sports Management program, but it's relatively common at many other schools such as Michigan, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, UF, Miami, and etc. It's certainly not a made up, underwater basket weaving program like MN thinks.

But you said we had several athletes that had this major. Am I mistaken? Please explain.
 

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But you said we had several athletes that had this major. Am I mistaken? Please explain.

Sorry, I just got home from a 14 hour shift, have been up for 22 of the past 24 hours, and am not at my sharpest. I saw an article from a few years ago showing 38 ND athletes in the Sports Management program. It was apparently ND College, not UND. Lack of sleep made me a little obtuse and careless.
 

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Oops! My bad. Nice catch.

Holy Cross offers it as a major (https://www.hcc-nd.edu/sports-management) and ND is part of the Sports Management Institute program. (https://www.sportsmanagementinstitute.com/)

Apparently ND doesn't have a Sports Management program, but it's relatively common at many other schools such as Michigan, Texas, Minnesota, Iowa, UF, Miami, and etc. It's certainly not a made up, underwater basket weaving program like MN thinks.

I'm aware a bunch of strong football schools offer majors like this. That's kind of my point. I'm also not certain that "sport hospitality" and "sport management" are the same.

I did a quick Linkedin search for Alabama MS Sport Hospitality alumni. I found a few folks who work for the university and one person who is a manager at a fast food restaurant who probably envisioned something a little grander when they went off to college and earned an MS.
 
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Sorry, I just got home from a 14 hour shift, have been up for 22 of the past 24 hours, and am not at my sharpest. I saw an article from a few years ago showing 38 ND athletes in the Sports Management program. It was apparently ND College, not UND. Lack of sleep made me a little obtuse and careless.

Dont let it happen again Bish.






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Sorry, I just got home from a 14 hour shift, have been up for 22 of the past 24 hours, and am not at my sharpest. I saw an article from a few years ago showing 38 ND athletes in the Sports Management program. It was apparently ND College, not UND. Lack of sleep made me a little obtuse and careless.

ND fans when Bishop suggests we also have fake majors:

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COURSES IN SPORT HOSPITALITY (30 credit hours)

Required (21 credit hours)
HES 509 Research Methods (fall, spring, or summer)
RHM 521 Hospitality Law (fall or spring)
RHM 551 Sport Properties and Venue Management (fall, spring, or summer)
RHM 555 Sports Sales and Entrepreneurship (spring or summer)
RHM 559 International Strategies in Sports (fall or spring)
RHM 561 Marketing, Sales and Public Relations in Sports (fall or summer)
RHM 575 Hospitality Operations Analysis (fall, spring, or summer)

Electives (9 credit hours)
RHM 552 Trends & Issues in Sports Business Management (Interim Session; summer)
​RHM 553 Contemporary Issues in Sport Hospitality (Interim Session; winter/spring)
RHM 560 Fellowship in Sports Business Management (fall, spring or summer)
RHM 593 Special Problems (fall, spring or summer)
RHM 576 Strategic Management in the Hospitality Industry (fall)
RHM 570 Leadership Management in Hospitality Management (spring)
RHM 596 Seminar in Hospitality Management (fall)
RHM 599 Thesis Research (fall or spring)

Capstone Project: spring, summer or fall
Projected Graduation: May, August or December

The Capstone
Purposes of Capstone Project in Sport Hospitality
· Documentation of “Professional Development and Scholarly Achievement” in the Sport Industry, including critical thinking, written communication, and oral communication skills.
· It requires each student to consider his or her “Professional Career Goals” in Sport Hospitality, and to clearly document evidence of professional growth.
· The project provides each graduate student, as well as faculty and potential employer(s), with a “unique tool for assessing what each student has gained through their graduate studies.”


Prerequisites include
· As required during your final semester in the CHES Sport Hospitality Graduate Program and in selected courses
· Documentation of a minimal of 500+ fellowship hours in the sport industry

“REQUIRED COMPONENTS”
Table of Contents
Section 1: CAREER DOCUMENTATION (resume/vita and related items)
· Personal information
· Summary of qualifications
· Education
· Related Experiences (fellowships, internships, practicums, volunteer opportunities, etc.)
· Honors and Awards
· References
· Cover Letter (applying for position) and Thank-You letter
· Six (6) month and five (5) year career plan of your professional and personal life goals
Section 2: PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES - Overview of Fellowship Experiences in the Sport Industry
· Index page addressing ALL organization names, logos, websites
· Describe each fellowship experience, outlining acquired KNOWLEDGE and SKILL in two (2) pages per each experience
Section 3: SCHOLARSHIP (advanced level knowledge and ability to connect the theory to practice
· PART A: Article/Abstract (publication and/or presentation) OR Grant/External Funding (grant funding should be no more than $15,000)
· PART B: Project (relate academic content to specific job opportunity)
Appendix could include academic group work from academic classes and experiences.
Mac Jones Capstone presentation need only him showing highlights of his 2020 season heading up the greatest offense Alabama football has ever seen.
 
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/06/nfl-mailbag-urban-meyer-jacksonville-jaguars-match

"With the former Florida and Ohio State coach, the transformation would involve more than assistants. It’d be strength coaches and player development staff and nutritionists—really, he’d be bringing in a program more than a staff. So I believe he’d need, more than just a certain salary, a budget to overhaul much of the organization, in the same sort of way he did in Gainesville and Columbus."

Will the ND Admin commit to the football program as much as we have and been expected to?
 

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COURSES IN SPORT HOSPITALITY (30 credit hours)

Required (21 credit hours)
HES 509 Research Methods (fall, spring, or summer)
RHM 521 Hospitality Law (fall or spring).

Avoid hookers whenever possible.
 

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https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/06/nfl-mailbag-urban-meyer-jacksonville-jaguars-match

"With the former Florida and Ohio State coach, the transformation would involve more than assistants. It’d be strength coaches and player development staff and nutritionists—really, he’d be bringing in a program more than a staff. So I believe he’d need, more than just a certain salary, a budget to overhaul much of the organization, in the same sort of way he did in Gainesville and Columbus."

Will the ND Admin commit to the football program as much as we have and been expected to?

I doubt it. They’d be perfectly content if we went 8-4 every year.
 

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I doubt it. They’d be perfectly content if we went 8-4 every year.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...y-assistant-coaches-make-least-1-million-year

Kelly has to press for being able to hire whoever he needs. Why have the clout that he appears to and not wield it to get what the program needs. And if, a coach of Kelly's stature cannot squeeze a little of blood from that stone, then seasons like this are the pinnacle. Very Good, but not great and certainly not good enough.
 

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https://www.espn.com/college-footba...y-assistant-coaches-make-least-1-million-year

Kelly has to press for being able to hire whoever he needs. Why have the clout that he appears to and not wield it to get what the program needs. And if, a coach of Kelly's stature cannot squeeze a little of blood from that stone, then seasons like this are the pinnacle. Very Good, but not great and certainly not good enough.

If that's the case, and I fully believe it is, then that's on US, as fans, and the alumni, to raise our voices and let them know how we feel. If we put pressure on the administration and let them know that we're not satisfied, you would think they would have to make the appropriate changes.
 

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If that's the case, and I fully believe it is, then that's on US, as fans, and the alumni, to raise our voices and let them know how we feel. If we put pressure on the administration and let them know that we're not satisfied, you would think they would have to make the appropriate changes.

LOL, I don't think that's going to do anything. If you were to send them 50 million dollars to endow the "NDMatt91 Defensive Coordinator Endowment", that might do it.
 
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LOL, I don't think that's going to do anything. If you were to send them 50 million dollars to endow the "NDMatt91 Defensive Coordinator Endowment", that might do it.

Then we need to hurt them where it hurts the most, their wallets. I'm sure a decline in gate revenue, whenever they decide to have full fans in the stands, would cause them to re-think things.
 

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Then we need to hurt them where it hurts the most, their wallets. I'm sure a decline in gate revenue, whenever they decide to have full fans in the stands, would cause them to re-think things.

Ah yes the old, "I love this team so much that I'm not going to support them anymore!" That'll show 'em.
 

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Ah yes the old, "I love this team so much that I'm not going to support them anymore!" That'll show 'em.

Seriously, the dumbest NDNation type of posts I’ve seen in awhile. For a football program that’s top 5-7 in the country but can’t beat the top 2-3 teams. Seems like an appropriate action.
 

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If that's the case, and I fully believe it is, then that's on US, as fans, and the alumni, to raise our voices and let them know how we feel. If we put pressure on the administration and let them know that we're not satisfied, you would think they would have to make the appropriate changes.

Every fan at every school wants their school to be the best, and fans wishing it were that way (or voicing that to decision makers) is not enough to make that a reality.

If you want any legitimate voice at all, you need to be a big money donor (millions) or be politically connected. Even your average Board of Trustee member has very limited influence in decision making.

Sports operate in a silo unless there are off-the-field issues. Money in, money out. You want Weis fired? Front the buyout. You want more money for coordinators? Cut the check. Until then, "demanding" does nothing. In the words of the Wu Tang Clan -- Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
 

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Every fan at every school wants their school to be the best, and fans wishing it were that way (or voicing that to decision makers) is not enough to make that a reality.

If you want any legitimate voice at all, you need to be a big money donor (millions) or be politically connected. Even your average Board of Trustee member has very limited influence in decision making.

Sports operate in a silo unless there are off-the-field issues. Money in, money out. You want Weis fired? Front the buyout. You want more money for coordinators? Cut the check. Until then, "demanding" does nothing. In the words of the Wu Tang Clan -- Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

The money in, money out thing is where I am constantly confused and surprised. I get the whole TV deals, huge stadiums, big donors, but holy shit I have no idea where some of these guys are getting the money for these buyouts, new facilities, new coaches, enormous annual operating budgets, shit is bananas.
 

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Every fan at every school wants their school to be the best, and fans wishing it were that way (or voicing that to decision makers) is not enough to make that a reality.

If you want any legitimate voice at all, you need to be a big money donor (millions) or be politically connected. Even your average Board of Trustee member has very limited influence in decision making.

Sports operate in a silo unless there are off-the-field issues. Money in, money out. You want Weis fired? Front the buyout. You want more money for coordinators? Cut the check. Until then, "demanding" does nothing. In the words of the Wu Tang Clan -- Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

Same as politics. You got money, you got a voice.
 
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