Brian Kelly Contract

[TheTurningPoint]

Brian Kelly would be at the top of the Texas list.

 

[irish o'phile]

Would a move to Texas be considered? I would not think that it is a better job than ND, but I am biased by my being an ND fan.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Charlie Strong would get serious consideration, as he's had Lou Holtz in his corner for a long time. I don't see Kevin Sumlin leaving A&M anytime soon unless the NFL came calling. He has it perfect right now in that he has a strong up-incoming program in the SEC with a excellent recruiting base. If they can get back to their Wrecking crew days, I can see them overtaking Alabama as tops in the SEC. As good as Stanford has been the last few years, I don't know that they can get any better, so he may consider a change if ND came calling. A dark horse candidate could be James Franklin at Vanderbilt. Kliff Kingsbury would be a guy to keep tabs on and see how he does at Texas Tech.

Not to rehash the entire discussion, but for the love of God, NO!

 

[arrowryan]

Would a move to Texas be considered? I would not think that it is a better job than ND, but I am biased by my being an ND fan.

That would be a lateral move at best. I don't really see anything at Texas that is better than Notre Dame.

 

[irishog77]

Would a move to Texas be considered? I would not think that it is a better job than ND, but I am biased by my being an ND fan.

Obviously it's all ultimately in the eye of the beholder...but yeah, Texas, is a mighty fine job. For 'crootin (WhiskeyJackyl reference), winning potential, money (paid out and brought in), support, and popularity reasons, many believe it to probably be the best job in the country...definitely top 3. ND, with its mediocre results on the field (post-Holtz and pre-BK) and academic restrictions, tends to be more fluid in its "rank" as a coaching job.

Sure, you and I (and others here) believe ND to be better than Texas, but much of the coaching world would believe Texas to be the superior job.

 

[NDWorld247]

Obviously it's all ultimately in the eye of the beholder...but yeah, Texas, is a mighty fine job. For 'crootin (WhiskeyJackyl reference), winning potential, money (paid out and brought in), support, and popularity reasons, many believe it to probably be the best job in the country...definitely top 3. ND, with its mediocre results on the field (post-Holtz and pre-BK) and academic restrictions, tends to be more fluid in its "rank" as a coaching job.

Sure, you and I (and others here) believe ND to be better than Texas, but much of the coaching world would believe Texas to be the superior job.

I agree with your 1st paragraph. I also think Kelly, an Irish Catholic from Boston, would fall into the bolded category.

I really don't think Kelly leaves ND for another college job. When the day comes that he leaves, it's either for retirement or the NFL.

 

[NDinL.A.]

That would be a lateral move at best. I don't really see anything at Texas that is better than Notre Dame.

Not when they will give you everything you want and need. It is about 100 x's easier to coach at Texas than ND, when you consider the recruiting ground that coach has to cover and the ability to recruit pretty much any player in the nation. The time spent on campus at TX is far greater than ND, where you have to speak all over the country. The pressure is great at both places, but nationally, there is no pressure like a ND coach faces. When the report first came out, I couldn't believe Kelly would leave for Texas either, but it's definitely out there (maybe just a ploy?).

Guys, I'm telling you this with all sincerity: Don't listen to what (I'll redact the name) said in that other thread about 'what he's hearing'...the contract situation is extremely real, and Kelly leaving is an absolute possibility. The assistant coaches have already been paid (but as somoone told me...they weren't 'taken care of' like some people are claiming), so that is not the hold up. It's much deeper than that; if it weren't that deep, it would have already been announced, like every other head coaching extension out there. You don't wait on things like this...other coaches will use it to recruit against you every day of the week.

(Edited)

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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While Irish fans still wait for an official announcement of a contract extension for head coach Brian Kelly, Blue & Gold Illustrated continues to release tidbits from a sit down with athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

And while Swarbrick continues to stress that a Kelly contract will get done sooner than later, it does appear that the Irish assistant coaches got a much deserved bump in their contracts as well as some other perks that kept the coaching staff in tact.

This from BGI’s conversation with Swarbrick:

One common complaint among former head coaches at Notre Dame is that they didn’t have the money to hang on to high quality assistants. Despite interest from several other teams, the Irish were able to keep its full 10-man staff intact this offseason. Swarbrick said that was an important focus for him and Kelly.

To get there Swarbrick said he loosened the purse strings to stay competitive with other top tier programs. He also said the assistants have more opportunities to add responsibilities and prepare for a future head coaching career than they have in the past.

“Certainly you have to respond to the market, and that’s an element of it, but it’s broader than that,” he said. “It’s about the level of engagement and responsibility you give them. Reinforcing the message that you are prepared to do whatever you can to help them achieve career objectives. Those are all pieces of it.”

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[LoveThee]

Where is all this talk of BK to Texas coming from? I hadn't heard anything about that.... It'll be an interesting situation to follow. Thats for sure.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Where is all this talk of BK to Texas coming from? I hadn't heard anything about that.... It'll be an interesting situation to follow. Thats for sure.

Bad gas. Something somebody ate.

 

[NDinL.A.]

It wasn't the huge raise it was made out to be, from what I was told.

And Kelly's contract still isn't done, and as of Friday, it wasn't even close to getting done per someone who would 1000% know.

But keep believing in your 'little birdies'. The proof is in the pudding.

 

[NDWorld247]

Brian Kelly would be at the top of the Texas list.

When the report first came out, I couldn't believe Kelly would leave for Texas either, but it's definitely out there (maybe just a ploy?).

And the Kelly to Texas thing will gain legs if Texas falters and ND doesn't lock Kelly up.

Wait, so we went from TP saying BK would be at the top of Texas' list should TX be in the market for a new coach to there being actual reports of this? Do you have any links to these "reports"?

 

[NDinL.A.]

Wait, so we went from TP saying BK would be at the top of Texas' list should TX be in the market for a new coach to there being actual reports of this? Do you have any links to these "reports"?

You know what, I just looked and couldn't find it, but it was brought up on ISD about 3 weeks ago, and yes, there was a link. I got about 10 mins til my daughter wakes up so I'll keep looking.

Edit: I must be losing my mind. Can't find it, but I found members talking about it.

Anyways, all ND has to do is lock him up and that's that. The Texas talk is just Internet talk so I'm not sweating it nearly as much as I am the NFL chances. Those are absolutely real; this is what happens when you have a great coach.

 

[phork]

Incredible. If its true. We are hosed. If its true. Fan investment will be pulled back big time if they mess this up.

 

[irishfan]

So we're all rooting for Texas this year and for limited NFL coaching jobs to open up next off-season right?

 

[tko]

Amazing how fast things spiral. I cannot believe we have to sit here and wonder again if BK is going to leave us, but I guess we need to expect it after what took place in January.

 

[NDWorld247]

Kelly and Martin have been to the Pats camp a lot! I think it also has to do with Kelly and Belichick getting along that well!

There has been a lot of talk about Kelly leaving in the last 24 hours. Before it came up, I had the thought that if Belichick retired, that would be the dream NFL job for Kelly, and he would have his successor in place for ND. Just a momentary thought.

Also, I heard that there has been a lot of O-talk around a less than mobile QB, and there has been quite a bit of D-talk, too!

Bogs, I brought my question over here so we don't derail the Fall Camp thread.

Do you mean a lot of talk on IE or like, "real" talk? This is baffling to me right now as I thought the BK thread had just been derailed with "what if" scenarios.

 

[tko]

This is perfect for morale and recruiting having Kelly coaching with one foot out the door and assistants jockeying for spots elsewhere all season. It's not even August for Christ's sake.

 

[Cali_domer]

So wait, this really is a possibility he could bolt for another College Program? That would sting a lot more than the NFL. Destination Job no more would be the cry from the masses.

 

[GoIrish41]

I don't buy any of this nonsense. Kelly isn't going anywhere. I haven't seen a link to any report. All I've seen is speculation.

 

[LoveThee]

I don't buy any of this nonsense. Kelly isn't going anywhere. I haven't seen a link to any report. All I've seen is speculation.

Why don't you buy it? Just because there hasn't been a published report doesn't mean there isn't whispers. Sometimes people in the know can't go to the media with the information they've heard, or journalists can't publish what they hear, etc etc. The point is there is a lot that goes into writing a report and even though the substance may be there, the clearance may not.

If the admin has not taken care of the staff as the whispers suggest, I could definitely see Kelly leaving. It is not as if he is an alum or has some other connection to the university other than being Catholic. I could definitely see him taking a job with more money/conditions more conducive to winning. And Texas would be a job like that, as would a few NFL opportunities.

I hope we don't lose Kelly. It would be... rough

 

[GoIrish41]

Why don't you buy it? Just because there hasn't been a published report doesn't mean there isn't whispers. Sometimes people in the know can't go to the media with the information they've heard, or journalists can't publish what they hear, etc etc. The point is there is a lot that goes into writing a report and even though the substance may be there, the clearance may not.

If the admin has not taken care of the staff as the whispers suggest, I could definitely see Kelly leaving. It is not as if he is an alum or has some other connection to the university other than being Catholic. I could definitely see him taking a job with more money/conditions more conducive to winning. And Texas would be a job like that, as would a few NFL opportunities.

I hope we don't lose Kelly. It would be... rough

I know of very few sports writers who would keep a story this big under their hat.

 

[STLDomer]

I don't buy any of this nonsense. Kelly isn't going anywhere. I haven't seen a link to any report. All I've seen is speculation.

He flirted with leaving last year?

I don't know anything about a Texas job or any of that but Kelly leaving has and will always be a possibility for the foreseeable future.

 

[LoveThee]

I know of very few sports writers who would keep a story this big under their hat.

Thats a fair point, though I don't think there is much of a "story" at this point so much as a set of realistic possibilities. Its not as if sports writers would just publish, "Brian Kelly might leave." I think most people realize that as a possibility after the Eagles interview and the rumored failure to come to an extension and supposed underwhelming new deal for assistants. I wouldn't expect to see anything come to light until there is a tangible quote or event that makes it apparent CBK and ND are on different pages

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You don't think stupid @ss rumors aren't at the heart of many business negotiations. Man you should have seen it when Ross Perot was taking over GM!

 

[LoveThee]

You don't think stupid @ss rumors aren't at the heart of many business negotiations. Man you should have seen it when Ross Perot was taking over GM!

Rumors definitely can play a part in business negotiations, but at what point can we differentiate between what is a business ploy and what is under legitimate consideration?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Rumors definitely can play a part in business negotiations, but at what point can we differentiate between what is a business ploy and what is under legitimate consideration?

Does it really make sense?

 

[LoveThee]

Does it really make sense?

Leaving Notre Dame? If he is unhappy, yes, I think so

 

[NDWorld247]

You don't think stupid @ss rumors aren't at the heart of many business negotiations. Man you should have seen it when Ross Perot was taking over GM!

BK doesn't need rumors to negotiate with ND. They know he is grossly underpaid and he will have higher paying opportunities by seasons end.

I'm not putting much stock in the rumors that have sprung up on this thread today. Let's get back to speculating future coaching candidates or when ND will announce his extension (my guess is December) or close a thread that never should have been created to begin with.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

BK doesn't need rumors to negotiate with ND. They know he is grossly underpaid and he will have higher paying opportunities by seasons end.

I'm not putting much stock in the rumors that have sprung up on this thread today. Let's get back to speculating future coaching candidates or when ND will announce his extension (my guess is December) or close a thread that never should have been created to begin with.

Exactly! Well said NDWorld!

Love Thee, It is about money not happiness.