Boston College Post Game

[ickythump1225]

Run game is inconsistent. I hope next year we can establish a good run game.

 

[Old Man Mike]

We Good.

We beat Stanford to go 10-2 (the top edge of what people thought reasonably possible) with one of the biggest flurries of important injuries in years (our two best OLinemen plus practically the whole Defensive Tackle and Defensive End positions.) Damm impressive.

We get a good bowl (have faith --- we bring TV ratings as gifts --- AND fans in the seats) and roll to 11-2. We finish the year in the Top Ten having played only one bad game all season among the following top 25-30 teams in the country (GA, MI, VT, Navy, VA, USC --- people ignorer that Navy, VT, and USC have put it together in the end.)

Coach puts up 10+ wins again. Only ND fans gripe about it.

 

[Rudy89]

We Good.

We beat Stanford to go 10-2 (the top edge of what people thought reasonably possible) with one of the biggest flurries of important injuries in years (our two best OLinemen plus practically the whole Defensive Tackle and Defensive End positions.) Damm impressive.

We get a good bowl (have faith --- we bring TV ratings as gifts --- AND fans in the seats) and roll to 11-2. We finish the year in the Top Ten having played only one bad game all season among the following top 25-30 teams in the country (GA, MI, VT, Navy, VA, USC --- people ignorer that Navy, VT, and USC have put it together in the end.)

Coach puts up 10+ wins again. Only ND fans gripe about it.

I only see us with 11 wins if we don’t make the NY6 though. Unfortunately as great as these wins feel our NY6 matchup will probably not favor us. We are a good team and have rose to the occasion after having our rival humiliate us in prime time. That being said we haven’t beaten anyone on the level of who we will play in the NY6. If we get a mid level bowl (I think the only other bowl we are eligible for is the camping word bowl but I’m not for sure what else we can go to) we could still get 11 wins and that’s a damn fine season no matter what anyone says, especially if our seniors get to go out holding a trophy rather than being embarrassed by a superior team.

 

[Irish YJ]

We Good.

We beat Stanford to go 10-2 (the top edge of what people thought reasonably possible) with one of the biggest flurries of important injuries in years (our two best OLinemen plus practically the whole Defensive Tackle and Defensive End positions.) Damm impressive.

We get a good bowl (have faith --- we bring TV ratings as gifts --- AND fans in the seats) and roll to 11-2. We finish the year in the Top Ten having played only one bad game all season among the following top 25-30 teams in the country (GA, MI, VT, Navy, VA, USC --- people ignorer that Navy, VT, and USC have put it together in the end.)

Coach puts up 10+ wins again. Only ND fans gripe about it.

Bama, OSU, Clemson would complain but don't have to.
Many other teams complain with no right to.

I agree with the rest though.

 

[Circa]

Bama, OSU, Clemson would complain but don't have to.
Many other teams complain with no right to.

I agree with the rest though.

This common perception of the top 3-4 teams as similar to Notre Dame Football......... Is worrisome.

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[ickythump1225]

Coach puts up 10+ wins again. Only ND fans gripe about it.

LOL UGA fired Richt after a 10 win season. They fired him with a resume that out paces BK:

Richt was hired as head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs before the 2001 season, replacing Jim Donnan. Richt's teams won two Southeastern Conference (SEC) championships (2002 and 2005), six SEC Eastern Division titles (2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2011 and 2012), and nine bowl games. His teams represented the SEC in three BCS bowl appearances with a record of 2–1, and finished in the top ten of the final AP Poll seven times (2002–2005, 2007, 2012, 2014). His 2008 team also finished in the top ten of the coaches poll.[9

 

[Circa]

LOL UGA fired Richt after a 10 win season. They fired him with a resume that out paces BK:

I'm no expert at football. But, I'll promise ya this. Richt wasn't cut out to do what cheaters do.
Come to the epitome of struggle in the heart of West by god Virginia. You'll see why people edge themselves to the upper echelons...

 

[drayer54]

Fun time at the stadium today!

Here’s what grinds my gears though and I haven’t seen this in other games. I wasn’t at Navy, but...

The band- wtf was that bass guitar cranked to 1000 doing other than ruining the fight song? Absolutely awful. I’m tweeting @ the Notre Dame band, ND trumpets, Nd drummers, and ND flutes to complain. Anyone else notice this?

 

[irishtrain]

Couple of points about today-1-Flutie was very very good that is the way it should be done-2-points made by Simms and others about this being a classy place and you can not win every game was a point well taken with me knowing what I know about Notre Dame. Get one more win and thumb your nose at the haters-this was a great performance by a solid team. GO GET STANFORD'S %@&.

 

[ickythump1225]

Couple of points about today-1-Flutie was very very good that is the way it should be done-2-points made by Simms and others about this being a classy place and you can not win every game was a point well taken with me knowing what I know about Notre Dame. Get one more win and thumb your nose at the haters-this was a great performance by a solid team. GO GET STANFORD'S %@&.

Man if we can't beat this Stanford team and break the hex that Palo Alto has on us...I just don't know. We'll never win there again I guess.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I only see us with 11 wins if we don’t make the NY6 though. Unfortunately as great as these wins feel our NY6 matchup will probably not favor us. We are a good team and have rose to the occasion after having our rival humiliate us in prime time. That being said we haven’t beaten anyone on the level of who we will play in the NY6. If we get a mid level bowl (I think the only other bowl we are eligible for is the camping word bowl but I’m not for sure what else we can go to) we could still get 11 wins and that’s a damn fine season no matter what anyone says, especially if our seniors get to go out holding a trophy rather than being embarrassed by a superior team.

As of right now, our most likely NY6 spots are going to be the Cotton Bowl and Orange Bowl:

The Cotton Bowl will be against likely Memphis or Cincinnati.

The Orange Bowl is interesting, because the ACC has an auto tie-in, but there is rumblings that there could be some finagling done to get ND in that spot, since the 2nd best ACC team is mediocre. But as of right now, it would be against probably Virginia Tech or Virginia.

 

[GUknights75]

Couple of points about today-1-Flutie was very very good that is the way it should be done-2-points made by Simms and others about this being a classy place and you can not win every game was a point well taken with me knowing what I know about Notre Dame. Get one more win and thumb your nose at the haters-this was a great performance by a solid team. GO GET STANFORD'S %@&.

Everyone can say what they want about Flutie, I too was extremely sick of hearing him trash ND on a weekly basis, but I have to give him some credit this year. He has been a lot more complimentary towards ND and his bias seemed to go from 75-25 for the oppenents to at least 60-40 pro ND this year. Ive been shocked a few times of how complimentary he has been towards Book. He definitely still has his moments but I think hes starting to get it, ND fans do not like his commentary. Chris Simms seems to be falling more in love with ND every broadcast. Hes a good one.

As for the NBCSN broadcast, I enjoyed it for what I watched but had to change the channel after the 1st Q bc of the small screen. I get what they are trying to do and I like the idea, but it needs work. They missed some plays and the play by play was late on numerous occasions. I guess thats why they did it for the last game, work the kinks out during the off-season.

 

[ulukinatme]

LOL UGA fired Richt after a 10 win season. They fired him with a resume that out paces BK:

There's a lot of Georgia fans that want Richt back. Smart hasn't exactly gotten them anything more than Richt did, and some of them complain that Kirby doesn't lean on the running game as much as Richt did. I could certainly see that when Georgia came to South bend in 2017, that could have been a lopsided game if they feed Chubb and Michel more.

 

[BGIF]

For Those Still Unhappy.

For Those Still Unhappy.

ND 501 yards Total Offense to Boston's 191 yards, almost 300 yds below their season average of 484 yds.

BC scored 7 pts, 26.8 pts below their average, their lowest for the season.

AJ Dillon ran for 56 yds, his lowest production for the season.

BC passed for 63 yds, 139 short of their average for the season.

ND had a balanced offense with 252 yds rushing on 44 carries and 249 passing on 41 throws.


ND's running game produced 84 more yds than the 168 season average, a 50% gain.

AJ Dillon had 56 yds on 14 carries, Ian Book and Phil Jurkovec ran for a combined 108 yds on 17 carries.

Tony Jones ran for 5 more yds than Dillon on just one more carry.

Lenzy got 5 more yds than Dillon on just one carry.

 

[ulukinatme]

ND 501 yards Total Offense to Boston's 191 yards, almost 300 yds below their season average of 484 yds.

BC scored 7 pts, 26.8 pts below their average, their lowest for the season.

AJ Dillon ran for 56 yds, his lowest production for the season.

BC passed for 63 yds, 139 short of their average for the season.

ND had a balanced offense with 252 yds rushing on 44 carries and 249 passing on 41 throws.


ND's running game produced 84 more yds than the 168 season average, a 50% gain.

AJ Dillon had 56 yds on 14 carries, Ian Book and Phil Jurkovec ran for a combined 108 yds on 17 carries.

Tony Jones ran for 5 more yds than Dillon on just one more carry.

Lenzy got 5 more yds than Dillon on just one carry.

Fire Kelly.

 

[BGIF]

Our QBs and WR accounted for 169 of our 252 yards.

That's great, isn't it? Or do you want to give those yards back?

BC had the biggest, nastiest RB on the field by far and ND's had 4 players outrushed him. And yes, three of them were two QBs and a WR. That was great!

BTW, ND's starting RB, who got the job through injuries ahead of him, also outrushed Dillon on the day. And walk-on Mike Assaf had a higher ypc number than Dillon. The only unsuccessful ND rushers were C'Bo, Henry, and Jahmir who combined for 11 yds on 9 carries ... out of the team's 44.

Holtz counted all his QBs yards in the rushing attack. I don't recall him deducting Rice's, Mirer's, MacDougal's, or even Powlus's. He took what he could take and that included a stable of RBs, and highly productive FBs, and he also took ALL the rushing yards Rocket got as a Flanker ... in the air or on the ground.

Devine counted Montana's runs just as Ara counted his QBs strategic rushing yards.

 

[arndtjc]

Doerer is nails

It was cold

BC didn’t finish a drive past the ND 50 after their touchdown, ‘nuff said

 

[stpeteirish]

That's great, isn't it? Or do you want to give those yards back?

BC had the biggest, nastiest RB on the field by far and ND's had 4 players outrushed him. And yes, three of them were two QBs and a WR. That was great!

BTW, ND's starting RB, who got the job through injuries ahead of him, also outrushed Dillon on the day. And walk-on Mike Assaf had a higher ypc number than Dillon. The only unsuccessful ND rushers were C'Bo, Henry, and Jahmir who combined for 11 yds on 9 carries ... out of the team's 44.

Holtz counted all his QBs yards in the rushing attack. I don't recall him deducting Rice's, Mirer's, MacDougal's, or even Powlus's. He took what he could take and that included a stable of RBs, and highly productive FBs, and he also took ALL the rushing yards Rocket got as a Flanker ... in the air or on the ground.

Devine counted Montana's runs just as Ara counted his QBs strategic rushing yards.

our coaches have found a way to compensate for the lack of a good tailback. But we still lack a good tailback.

 

[AllTimeIrish]

Great game by the defense, encouraged by production by depth DE's. This bodes well for next year's starters.

The rushing game needs work, but we are playing with depth OL. Still, would be nice to see more development of backup offensive line given their rankings each year. I feel as though they under-perform their talent until their upperclassmen years. Other teams play with freshman and sophomores and they do just fine.

Book has finally played like he did last year, and he is actually probably a bit better at this point. Have no idea why he pressed so much earlier in the season. They are not allowing PJ to throw, so questioning whether there will be a true competition in the spring. It appears Book will QB this team again next year, which makes me question whether PJ is that good or we are waiting on one of the younger QBs to come in and step up.

The RB depth worries me. Sure we have a premium guy coming in, but what about depth and the rotation? It looks like Jafar is either still injured or has lost a step, he doesn't hit holes with the same speed as he did last year. If he is back to full strength next season, then we have two decent RBs but really I don't like any of the rest that much on the roster. They all look like just bodies, unless we can develop one of them into something more.

CB worries me next year as well - we have speed and length coming in but they are developmental and no guarantee at least 2 of the 3 will pan out. We NEED better CB and safety depth in the next two classes but I don't see it. We cannot compete for a NC with that level of talent and depth behind next year's starters.

Other than those few positions, this team is in excellent shape. OL will recover next year and have a very solid year I think but not sure if they will be elite until a new group takes over for the current one.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Doerer accounted for 16 pts - he's a keeper
Book played very well - funny how is pocket presence has improved with the injuries to his top linemen
Kmet/Finke had great game


Defense - two turnovers, 4 sacks, 300 yards under BC year average


Great game to watch. Enjoyed beating on them Catholics........





I said in another post that I thought Claypool would go very early in 2020 but, I looked this morning at a few mock drafts and geez-louiz there are a $hit-ton of receivers in this year's field... I mean they have Antonio Gandy-Golden from Liberty going 45th.

 

[ickythump1225]

There's a lot of Georgia fans that want Richt back. Smart hasn't exactly gotten them anything more than Richt did, and some of them complain that Kirby doesn't lean on the running game as much as Richt did. I could certainly see that when Georgia came to South bend in 2017, that could have been a lopsided game if they feed Chubb and Michel more.

My point wasn't really that Smart was an upgrade (I think he is, Richt was getting a little complacent towards the end there, Smart has brought UGA recruiting to Alabama levels damn near) but that other fan bases get restless too.

 

[tko]

There was a point in the third quarter when I was teetering on needing a straight jacket. Two different series we did things completely backwards. Faced with a 2nd and 10 we run the ball, stuffed, and then fail on a third down pass or Book scrambled for no gain I believe. The other series we had 2nd and 2 and tried to get cute with a pass, loss of 1, and then failed on a third down pass. Forgive my lack of full recollection. On the series where it was 2nd and 2, why not get under center and take 2 downs to get the first. You eat up clock and try to put a nail in the coffin. It's mind numbing some of the decisions that take place. Anyone else feel this way during that third quarter? Hell, early in the fourth they pounded TJJ on a 2nd and 2 and got the first. Should've been the same script earlier.

 

[Old Man Mike]

A controversial comment (?) and a realistic observation (?) about our potentially great back-up QB:

Realistic(?): Jurkovec is one of the strongest people I saw this year running the ball upright. He's VERY hard to get down, and can sling people off him. I'll bet every high schooler had big trouble with him on any run. He LIKES to run also. Some of him running the ball vs passing it, might be him (especially in the vanilla play call circumstances that he is given.) Once Phil gets his full chances to play, I'll bet that we see a QB based upon strength (rather than finesse) with LOTS of scrambling and zinger long balls. Hopefully that day will be accompanied by a lot of solid competence on the rest of what a QB must do.

Controversial(?): He looks a bit p!ssed. He has a (cocky?) smile all the time, but since it is the same whether he has a bad play or a good one, I see him as immature still --- and he IS still very young. This guy has been Batman all his life and isn't happy being Robin. I'm going to feel a lot more confident in him taking over if I see a little more personality growth. All of this is based on very thin "evidence" (sideline demeanor and after on-field plays), so others will know better --- which is why I'm putting it out here.

 

[ND88]

Controversial(?): He looks a bit p!ssed. He has a (cocky?) smile all the time, but since it is the same whether he has a bad play or a good one, I see him as immature still --- and he IS still very young. This guy has been Batman all his life and isn't happy being Robin. I'm going to feel a lot more confident in him taking over if I see a little more personality growth. All of this is based on very thin "evidence" (sideline demeanor and after on-field plays), so others will know better --- which is why I'm putting it out here.

1. He's mad because Lenzy is transferring after this year.

2. Basing his maturity on a sly smile is based on, as you pretty much admit, non-existent evidence.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Q. Who got the game ball?
BRIAN KELLY: Asmar Bilal.

 

[Dizzyphil]

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[BeatSC]

We have no running back game because we do not commit to it or to getting an RB in rhythm. Granted Cam McDaniels would easily be #1 right now. TJ is just way too slow out of the blocks and for his size doesn’t kind as hard as you would think. CBo hit the whole very hard but looking for someone who can make a cut and has vision. We don’t have that yet. Put Lenzy in the backfield. He needs more touches a la Rocket.

Good game by Kmet, Claypool and Finke. Book player calm and good but not great. Did we air it out once? We have D lineman a plenty. Would like one of the interior lineman graduate to monster status next year. They are slightly above average but depth makes them better.

We left a minimum of 11 points on the field. Wish we wouldn’t do that. 51-7 sounds a lot better. It’s nice we don’t run up the score but we need to allow our backups to get more than read option experience. I think Kelly doesn’t want a true QB competition next year.

Is there anyway to get Bo and his energy on the field in a regular basis next year? Does JOK move over to Bilals position?

Gilman has to come back. Might go undrafted so might as well stay an extra year and get an MBA. Moala looks to be turning into the next Gilman.

Hope McKinnley will be playing against Stanford. Need that relationship with Book to mature. I think the offense will be better next year. Book just needs to not take any steps backwards and add an explosive RB and more speed and depth at WR plus TEs coming out of our ears and we are sitting pretty. Do we have another Hamilton coming in next year (early enrollee) that can bolster our DB depth?

Long needs to go and Quinn needs to figure out how to eliminate all the penalties. Haven’t had many holding calls and most of them were bogus but something like an average of 2 plus procedure penalties a game which is ridiculous.

Need to run the score up on Stanford next week and keep the dominance going. We are one really good QB and one really good RB from being elite. The Michigan game was an aberration. Even Ohio State Schitt the bed when everything went wrong one night at Purdue.

Flutie is getting better. Turning into Oat Haden.

 

[irishandy]

Postgame Thoughts:
1. Steve Addazio was quoted in the SBT, "they have a hell of a defense." He is right, but we'll be better next year in my opinion.
2. Braden Lenzy= a starter.
3. What a turn around Jonathan Doerer has had the past few games.
4. Where was Jafar Armstrong at? Is he getting used to the backseat to watch Chris Tyree for next year?
5. Is it too early to call Kyle Hamilton an All American? He will have at least 1 more interception this year.
6. I always enjoy senior day, thank you seniors!
7. For all the haters in 'BK Revisited' thread: we've won all of our home games the past 2 years, that's a first since the 1988-89 seasons.

Go Irish, let's finish 10-2!

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Special Teams have been mentioned a few times in this thread and they should not be overlooked. It’s an area that has been suspect over the past few years (xtra points and field goals good, punt and kick returns bad or non existent). I think Polian has done a great job and should get some credit. CBK mentioned him in the post game presser yesterday which was great to hear. Doerer has been nails as has Bramblett and the punt return game is much improved. An overlooked phase of the game that ND has been winning. Keep it up boys.

 

[irishtrain]

Everyone can say what they want about Flutie, I too was extremely sick of hearing him trash ND on a weekly basis, but I have to give him some credit this year. He has been a lot more complimentary towards ND and his bias seemed to go from 75-25 for the oppenents to at least 60-40 pro ND this year. Ive been shocked a few times of how complimentary he has been towards Book. He definitely still has his moments but I think hes starting to get it, ND fans do not like his commentary. Chris Simms seems to be falling more in love with ND every broadcast. Hes a good one.

As for the NBCSN broadcast, I enjoyed it for what I watched but had to change the channel after the 1st Q bc of the small screen. I get what they are trying to do and I like the idea, but it needs work. They missed some plays and the play by play was late on numerous occasions. I guess thats why they did it for the last game, work the kinks out during the off-season.

Yeh agree jump on board Flutie and stay 60/40 we know its tough being BC grad but that effort was real nice-you can tell he likes Book and sees he could be even better with a running game. I wonder what this group could have done with a power running game.