Biden Presidency

[BilboBaggins]

“Within 6 days of Biden’s inauguration, Texas has HALTED his illegal deportation freeze,” Paxton tweeted after the order. “*This* was a seditious left-wing insurrection. And my team and I stopped it.”

Do quotes like this give anyone else the heebie-jeebies?

Wake me up when the dreaded caravans of illegal immigrants storm the Texas State House after Biden encourages them to have a trial by combat.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Do quotes like this give anyone else the heebie-jeebies?

Wake me up when the dreaded caravans of illegal immigrants storm the Texas State House after Biden encourages them to have a trial by combat.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

DC Statehood bill introduced in Senate.

 

[NorthDakota]

DC Statehood bill introduced in Senate.

That ain't getting 60 votes lol. These people are idiots

 

[GowerND11]

DC Statehood is one of the biggest kicks in the dick to the FFs to be introduced. The whole point of creating a DISTRICT was to free it from state political clout and dirtiness. Granted, DC is a political cesspool, but the fact remains it isn't supposed to be. So, instead of recognizing that we have been wrong for the expansion of the city, and the corruption within it (and the surrounding area), they'd rather just feed the beast.

 

[IrishLax]

DC Statehood is one of the biggest kicks in the dick to the FFs to be introduced. The whole point of creating a DISTRICT was to free it from state political clout and dirtiness. Granted, DC is a political cesspool, but the fact remains it isn't supposed to be. So, instead of recognizing that we have been wrong for the expansion of the city, and the corruption within it (and the surrounding area), they'd rather just feed the beast.

Please tell me more about this "corruption" in surrounding areas.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

DC Statehood is one of the biggest kicks in the dick to the FFs to be introduced. The whole point of creating a DISTRICT was to free it from state political clout and dirtiness. Granted, DC is a political cesspool, but the fact remains it isn't supposed to be. So, instead of recognizing that we have been wrong for the expansion of the city, and the corruption within it (and the surrounding area), they'd rather just feed the beast.

Fun facts:
-DC has a population larger than Vermont and Wyoming.
-DC has GDP per capital double of New York State and at 0.7% of the nations GDP is larger than 16 states and equal to the combined GDP of Vermont Montana and Wyoming.
-Last year DC paid more in federal taxes than 22 states.
-DC is 80% Democrat
-DC have no representation in Congress. Im pretty sure our FFs went to war over this against the best army in the world at the time. I also remember the lovely argument conservatives make all the time about the liberal coastal elites determining the status quo for the rural counterparts. Well a populated area of the country of comparable size to at least 8 states has zero ability to have their say or take part in the direction fo the country.

Full disclosure I am for DC statehood. Many of my college friends grew up up in Bethesda, Chevy Chase and on McAuthur Blvd and attended Gonzaga HS and we have had several excellent conversations on this. Really good stuff and totally interesting.

 

[GowerND11]

Please tell me more about this "corruption" in surrounding areas.

Ok I misspoke about corruption in surrounding areas. What I should say is the overflow of people populating the DMV area to service DC through service sector jobs. I don't mean for this to come off as that should be banned. Cities need those services and such. But the growth of that city to become the 6th largest metropolitan area in the nation was never intended. Granted, a lot of what has happened was never intended, but the entire purpose of our nation's capital being a separate entity devoid of political influence is supposed to remain.

 

[GowerND11]

Fun facts:
-DC has a population larger than Vermont and Wyoming.
-DC has GDP per capital double of New York State and at 0.7% of the nations GDP is larger than 16 states and equal to the combined GDP of Vermont Montana and Wyoming.
-Last year DC paid more in federal taxes than 22 states.
-DC is 80% Democrat
-DC have no representation in Congress. Im pretty sure our FFs went to war over this against the best army in the world at the time.

DC does have representation, they have 3 EC votes, with a delegate in the House (granted, severely limited power there with no voting rights).

Half of what you are saying though are issues that really shouldn't exist because the idea of statehood should be struck down from the word go. It doesn't matter the population, the GDP, etc. There is no reason to have the home of the federal government lie within a state.

 

[NorthDakota]

DC Statehood bill introduced in Senate.

DC does have representation, they have 3 EC votes, with a delegate in the House (granted, severely limited power there with no voting rights).

There is no reason to have the home of the federal government lie within a state.

If the people of DC want any form of statehood at all, they should be returned to MD. That would be the only logical path for them to pursue.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

DC does have representation, they have 3 EC votes, with a delegate in the House (granted, severely limited power there with no voting rights).

Half of what you are saying though are issues that really shouldn't exist because the idea of statehood should be struck down from the word go. It doesn't matter the population, the GDP, etc. There is no reason to have the home of the federal government lie within a state.

Im not sure I agree those factors can be dismissed out of hand for DC. They are quite commonly used for arguments on federal government taxations for real states and power sharing in government. Why should one of the largest contributors to our countries economy and production not get a say in the proceedings of the country? They have no representation in Senate and no voting ability in the House, yet pay more federal taxes the 22 states.

 

[GowerND11]

Im not sure I agree those factors can be dismissed out of hand for DC. They are quite commonly used for arguments on federal government taxations for real states and power sharing in government. Why should one of the largest contributors to our countries economy and production not get a say in the proceedings of the country? They have no representation in Senate and no voting ability in the House, yet pay more federal taxes the 22 states.

They shouldn't be taxed more, that I would argue should be lowered.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If the people of DC want any form of statehood at all, they should be returned to MD. That would be the only logical path for them to pursue.

Ive heard of a proposal where Congress could redefine the boundary of the "seat" to just the White House, Mall, Congress and SCOTUS. From there..... what happens to the remaining land enclosed by the current boundary could take different paths forward. I believe Congress does have the ability to make those changes to the boundary with little difficulty.

Path 1- the remaining area and its population becomes a new state thereby having to meet the requirements for state hood. Difficult path forward for sure and would certainly benefit Democrats.

Path 2 - cede area back to Maryland. This would of course increase Maryland's population and likely increase the # of Reps but keep Senate in tact.

 

[IrishLax]

Ok I misspoke about corruption in surrounding areas. What I should say is the overflow of people populating the DMV area to service DC through service sector jobs. I don't mean for this to come off as that should be banned. Cities need those services and such. But the growth of that city to become the 6th largest metropolitan area in the nation was never intended. Granted, a lot of what has happened was never intended, but the entire purpose of our nation's capital being a separate entity devoid of political influence is supposed to remain.

I'm personally a proponent of just giving the land back to Maryland besides a much smaller carve out of the public/federal lands around the National Mall. It would net the residents representation and Maryland would get an additional congressman out of it.

When you consider state, local, AND federal government employment in DC/Maryland/Virginia the number of people working for a government entity is like 30%. The national average is ~18%. So the DC area is certainly disproportional.

But the biggest driver in population growth over the past few decades has been private tech jobs and private tech-adjacent jobs. This happened because of the synergy/efficiency with Government contracting, Loudon County being the optimal location for east coast server farms, etc. Boston used to be the king of tech on the east coast but the DC area has more people working in STEM fields right now (raw numbers) than anywhere else on the east coast. And for major cities as a proportion of total workforce, it's only rivaled by the Bay Area and the North Carolina tech triangle.

 

[GowerND11]

Ive heard of a proposal where Congress could redefine the boundary of the "seat" to just the White House, Mall, Congress and SCOTUS. From there..... what happens to the remaining land enclosed by the current boundary could take different paths forward. I believe Congress does have the ability to make those changes to the boundary with little difficulty.

Path 1- the remaining area and its population becomes a new state thereby having to meet the requirements for state hood. Difficult path forward for sure and would certainly benefit Democrats.

Path 2 - cede area back to Maryland. This would of course increase Maryland's population and likely increase the # of Reps but keep Senate in tact.

I believe in the 1870s they did cede some of the territory back to Virginia (What became Alexandria and all), so it's entirely plausible they could do that. I believe though, that the land must first be ceded back to Maryland (or at least offered), before the people could attempt statehood.

 

[IrishLax]

I believe in the 1870s they did cede some of the territory back to Virginia (What became Alexandria and all), so it's entirely plausible they could do that. I believe though, that the land must first be ceded back to Maryland (or at least offered), before the people could attempt statehood.

It was actually pre-civil war, but yeah DC used to be a square. They gave back Arlington and Alexandria to Virginia in the 1840s.

 

[Blazers46]

That ain't getting 60 votes lol. These people are idiots

May not need 60 if they can somehow eliminate the filibuster first.

 

[Legacy]

Fun facts:
-DC has a population larger than Vermont and Wyoming.
-DC has GDP per capital double of New York State and at 0.7% of the nations GDP is larger than 16 states and equal to the combined GDP of Vermont Montana and Wyoming.
-Last year DC paid more in federal taxes than 22 states.
-DC is 80% Democrat
-DC have no representation in Congress. Im pretty sure our FFs went to war over this against the best army in the world at the time. I also remember the lovely argument conservatives make all the time about the liberal coastal elites determining the status quo for the rural counterparts. Well a populated area of the country of comparable size to at least 8 states has zero ability to have their say or take part in the direction fo the country.

Full disclosure I am for DC statehood. Many of my college friends grew up up in Bethesda, Chevy Chase and on McAuthur Blvd and attended Gonzaga HS and we have had several excellent conversations on this. Really good stuff and totally interesting.

Good points. If DC became a state, those who lived in Virginia and Maryland would be required to pay DC State taxes, right? State income for DC to solve their problems. As it is now, that's federal tax money for those. DC population is 100k less than North Dakota.

 

[drayer54]

If they make DC a state, when the pendulum turns, it should be the first priority of the GOP to divide Oklahoma into Rhode Island sized states.

 

[NorthDakota]

If they make DC a state, when the pendulum turns, it should be the first priority of the GOP to divide Oklahoma into Rhode Island sized states.

There is a stronger argument to break up normal or bigger central and western states than there ever was or ever will be to make DC one.

 

[ab2cmiller]

If they make DC a state, when the pendulum turns, it should be the first priority of the GOP to divide Oklahoma into Rhode Island sized states.

I envision a future of 222 states and 123 Supreme Court Justices. Wonder how quick we get there.

 

[BilboBaggins]

I'm personally a proponent of just giving the land back to Maryland besides a much smaller carve out of the public/federal lands around the National Mall. It would net the residents representation and Maryland would get an additional congressman out of it.

This.

But apparently DC residents hate the idea, as does Maryland.

They could also give DC US Reps with voting power, but this issue is 100% about Senators.

IMO Puerto Rico makes 10x more sense to be the 51st state. I'm in favor of reaching 53 states, a prime number, so we are "indivisible." Looking at you, Cuba. lol

 

[BilboBaggins]

There is a stronger argument to break up normal or bigger central and western states than there ever was or ever will be to make DC one.

Why do we need two Dakotas?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If they make DC a state, when the pendulum turns, it should be the first priority of the GOP to divide Oklahoma into Rhode Island sized states.

THats not the same thing. The entire state of Oklahoma already is fully represented (if you ignore Native Americans) as intended by the FFs. Splitting it up would be an overt political act.

Making DC a state isnt. There is a legitimate and wholly American Democracy argument to be made for the residents of DC not being represented at all. It just has the current implication that would benefit Dems.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Sorry, I had to laugh at this one. Just hits a little too close to home.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1354459236839862275[/TWEET]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

There is a stronger argument to break up normal or bigger central and western states than there ever was or ever will be to make DC one.

How so? Not sure I have come across this one before.

 

[NorthDakota]

Why do we need two Dakotas?

We actually need more than two. We probably need at least four. Two pretty large states.

Wyoming should be broken up as well

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Sorry, I had to laugh at this one. Just hits a little too close to home.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Biden All-Female Communications Team Won't Tell Nation What's Wrong, Nation Should Already Know <a href="https://t.co/ausOAlNPwc">https://t.co/ausOAlNPwc</a></p>— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1354459236839862275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fuckin A that is funny

 

[Rogue219]

We actually need more than two. We probably need at least four. Two pretty large states.

Wyoming should be broken up as well

Wilt Chamberlain shagged more women than there are residents of Wyoming and both Dakotas combined.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

We actually need more than two. We probably need at least four. Two pretty large states.

Wyoming should be broken up as well

I d rather just have two dirt poor states that take up liberal tax dollars than four.