BCS Rankings: 2012

[irishff1014]

Palmer just said on MIKE & MIKE that Notre Dame can compete with any team in the SEC. And the offense improvement in the last 4 weeks has been very good. Best past he said that ND deserves to be in the National Championship game.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah. As if we havent faced a defense as fierce as Alabama's or Georgia's...wait...we have...all week in practice for the last 4 months. Comeon dude, would we march up and down the field on Bama and Georgia? No. Would we be punting after 3 and outs all game? No. We'll move the chains, and create mismatches all day. Neither of those defenses like mobile QB's. Someone will have to stay home and keep an eye on Mr. Golson which means well have a mismatch running around the field somewhere.

We also have 43 days to develop a plan, get better, and work on our offense. We havent peaked yet, not even close. We've expanded the playbook every week, and have gotten better every week. Saban/Richt aren't gameplanning for a finished product...they will have to think ahead and anticipate. Our offense will be much better in 43 days than it was last night, and will be throwing much more looks at our opponent. This break is HUGE for a developing offense because of how young we are at certain positions, we aren't a "what you see is what you get" like Alabama or Georgia. We know what they're going to do. Saban will be going back to Cinci tape in anticipation of what Kelly may add to his playbook. Saban will beable to adjust accoordingly during the game, Richt probably won't be able to adjust as efficiently.

In terms of talent, it's a wash. I like ND against either. In terms of coaching, I'd rather play Richt all day because of Sabans in-game adjustments.

I respectfully disagree. You may see one or two new wrinkles, but for the most part, you're going to see the same offense that we've seen all year. Kelly will keep working the team to do what they do, only to do it better.

 

[ndfi78]

I think you are right Irish#1, our offensive identity is set.

 

[Dizzyphil]

We just saw the best 2 Wide recivers we will see all season at USC.

Without the one long pass to Lee, I believe our FRESHMEN secondary took care of business.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[BGIF]

Without the one long pass to Lee, I believe our FRESHMEN secondary took care of business.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!

Diz

On that one long pass, Wittek had an awful long time with no pressure. An ND defender, KLM?, bulled in on Wittek's backside but was ridden off parallel to Wittek by the OT. I didn't see another ND jersey across the LOS.

 

[Dizzyphil]

On that one long pass, Wittek had an awful long time with no pressure. An ND defender, KLM?, bulled in on Wittek's backside but was ridden off parallel to Wittek by the OT. I didn't see another ND jersey across the LOS.

I was helping KLM on that play... watching TV I was leaning to the left.....should have been leaning to the right!!!!!!

Second half adjustment by Diaco was on-target. Even though that long pass was in the second half, the Irish started getting more pressure in the second than that of the first. I believe the Irish will need to have persistent pressure on whichever QB they face come Jan 7th.....

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!

Diz

 

[Me2SouthBend]

And if the playoff system for the top 8 was in play for this year... we'd start against Stanford if the season ended today. Followed by Alabama v LSU, Georgia v KState and Florida v Oregon. With 1 week to shake things up, it'll be interesting to see how the reshuffled deck would match teams next week. This much is certain, ND would still be matched with the #8 seed.

1 Notre Dame
2 Alabama
3 Georgia
4 Florida
5 Oregon
6 Kansas State
7 LSU
8 Stanford

 

[PraetorianND]

And if the playoff system for the top 8 was in play for this year... we'd start against Stanford if the season ended today. Followed by Alabama v LSU, Georgia v KState and Florida v Oregon. With 1 week to shake things up, it'll be interesting to see how the reshuffled deck would match teams next week. This much is certain, ND would still be matched with the #8 seed.

1 Notre Dame
2 Alabama
3 Georgia
4 Florida
5 Oregon
6 Kansas State
7 LSU
8 Stanford

I thought it was a 4 team playoff.. Am I missing something here?

 

[Riddickulous]

It is a 4 team playoff and it hopefully always will be.

In 10 years, the SEC will form its own division, the FSECS, which will have its own professional league called the Super SEC, which will be totally awesome and vastly superior to the NFL. The FBS will switch to a 64-team playoff.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lets hope the 4 team playoff never includes 4 SEC teams. It almost would this year if ND wasn't at #1 right now.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

In 10 years, the SEC will form its own division, the FSECS, which will have its own professional league called the Super SEC, which will be totally awesome and vastly superior to the NFL. The FBS will switch to a 64-team playoff.

Are you telling me there's college football outside of the SEC? I thought that's why we had to schedule high school teams for our OOC schedule!

 

[Me2SouthBend]

The 8 team playoff would only need the Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar a National Semifinal and a National Championship game to accomplish what we need to get a real champion. One more game than the current structure would get it done. It will happen within a couple of years of the four team playoff as the four team set up doesn't even allow the four big bowls to get a piece of the Big Pie.

 

[ALLGATOR]

It is a 4 team playoff and it hopefully always will be.

They will eventually go to 8 greed always wins out.

 

[ACamp1900]

The playoff will eventually kill just about everything we all love about cfb, I am convinced about that... it'll go to 8, then 12, then 16 then who the hell knows what and in little time the regular season will be next to completely meaningless

 

[woolybug25]

The playoff will eventually kill just about everything we all love about cfb, I am convinced about that... it'll go to 8, then 12, then 16 then who the hell knows what and in little time the regular season will be next to completely meaningless

Totally agree. Think how lame this season would have been, knowing over three weeks ago who the majority of the playoff teams were. The Bama/TAM, Oregon/Stanford, ND/USC and the SEC championship would have all been meaningless in reference to who made it to the show.

An 8 team playoff will kill the pageantry that has made college football so special for almost 150 years. It's a tragedy if you ask me.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

No idea how, after this season, any ND could be in favor of an 8-team (or larger) playoff. After batting through this entire season, all the ups and downs, all the close games...

We would maybe have to play Stanford (again) in the Rose Bowl. How in the world would that be good for college football? Sure, if your team is irrelevant and you are never going to get into the playoff, more one-and-done games is fun for neutral viewers. But will it produce a real champion? Or will we have 3-loss teams winning "national" titles?

4 teams is plenty, and hopefully it stays that way for a long time.

 

[woolybug25]

No idea how, after this season, any ND could be in favor of an 8-team (or larger) playoff. After batting through this entire season, all the ups and downs, all the close games...

We would maybe have to play Stanford (again) in the Rose Bowl. How in the world would that be good for college football? Sure, if your team is irrelevant and you are never going to get into the playoff, more one-and-done games is fun for neutral viewers. But will it produce a real champion? Or will we have 3-loss teams winning "national" titles?

4 teams is plenty, and hopefully it stays that way for a long time.

Right, playoffs don't reward the best team, the reward the healthiest and hottest team.

 

[Crimson streak]

The most I would like to see is a 6 team playoff with the top 2 getting a bye. Kind of a reward for having a great regular season

 

[Me2SouthBend]

If Oregon and KState had remained undefeated and gone to the NCG, there would have been an uproar of epic proportion. Anytime there is an undefeated team that isn't playing for the title it's clear that the current system needs improvement. The NCAA hoops seems to do it right. I'm not sure what the right number is for a playoff, but I know the current system isn't the answer.

 

[woolybug25]

If Oregon and KState had remained undefeated and gone to the NCG, there would have been an uproar of epic proportion. Anytime there is an undefeated team that isn't playing for the title it's clear that the current system needs improvement. The NCAA hoops seems to do it right. I'm not sure what the right number is for a playoff, but I know the current system isn't the answer.

How many college basketball games have you tuned into this year?

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

The most I would like to see is a 6 team playoff with the top 2 getting a bye. Kind of a reward for having a great regular season

I actually don't mind this idea. But the regular season would have to be shortened to 10 games.

But really the more I think about it, the more I believe that four teams is the way to go (except I hate the way the SEC has it set up so that they can get a clean sweep).

 

[PraetorianND]

I vote for a 16 team playoff.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

How many college basketball games have you tuned into this year?

A few as I do any other year. It's a different animal though with 30 plus games, my point is they crown a true champion at the end of the year. If ND had lost any of their games this year, they would have had zero shot at a title, while Bama or Georgia, Florida and likely Oregon would all have a shot (and 2 of those teams wouldn't have even won their division of the respective league and I use the term respective as it relates to the $EC loosely). All of this would have been the result of two things. First, preseason polls which we don't need to discuss the uselessness of and second, the $EC bias. One simply can't come to an accurate conclusion as to who the Champ is in the current format. There are many examples of teams getting screwed and ND was 2 weeks away from being added to this list. I think the 8 team playoff could actually work similar to the wild card teams in MLB by expanding the interest to fan bases who feel they have a chance later into the season even after they have lost a game. Get in the top 8 and you're in.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

4 is perfect. From a neutral POV (obviously as a fan of the top 2 teams I love the no playoffs this year), it would be so much more exciting. You have Georgia and Bama playing for a spot, but below that you would have had chaos. Oregon, Florida, and Kansas State battling for 2 spots. If Kansas State loses they're eliminated and Florida's win over FSU clinched them a playoff spot. Usually the top 4 have separated themselves from the pack. Anything more than 6 is overkill, and 6 is only favorable because of the bowl. The only way it could expand beyond 4 is if there's homefield advantage outside of the NCG.

 

[woolybug25]

A few as I do any other year. It's a different animal though with 30 plus games, my point is they crown a true champion at the end of the year. If ND had lost any of their games this year, they would have had zero shot at a title, while Bama or Georgia, Florida and likely Oregon would all have a shot (and 2 of those teams wouldn't have even won their division of the respective league and I use the term respective as it relates to the $EC loosely). All of this would have been the result of two things. First, preseason polls which we don't need to discuss the uselessness of and second, the $EC bias. One simply can't come to an accurate conclusion as to who the Champ is in the current format. There are many examples of teams getting screwed and ND was 2 weeks away from being added to this list. I think the 8 team playoff could actually work similar to the wild card teams in MLB by expanding the interest to fan bases who feel they have a chance later into the season even after they have lost a game. Get in the top 8 and you're in.

I bet it is as few as the other years becuase the regular season has been meaningless as long ad you have watched it. but i doubt that stops you from watching Butler games during March Madness?

The rest of your argument is completely false. If ND would have lost to USC we could still be in the top 6. Furthermore, every other game I mentioned would have had no bearing on the top 6. You wouldn't have been at the edge of your seat as Stanford beat Oregon. You wouldn't have blinked at tAm beating Bama, and the SEC championship would have been nothing but a game to seed two teams in the playoff. The current system is a season long version of March Madness.

MLB also goes against your logic. MLB has been slowly declining in viewership over the last 50 years to the point that it can't even be considered America's game anymore. The biggest reason being that no on cares about their long regular season thy serves no purpose other than to seed a bunch of playoff teams.

 

[woolybug25]

Sorry for the typos, I have been drinking and on my phone.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Butler and UConn were the two best teams in the country in 2011.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Butler and UConn were the two best teams in the country in 2011.

Of course Butler was!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Obviously college basketball needs a big playoff because there are 320-some teams with only 30-some games for each. There's never enough to separate the pack. There's a similar problem for college football, except it's on a much smaller scale. That's why a 4 team playoff is perfect.

 

[Kak7304]

Obviously college basketball needs a big playoff because there are 320-some teams with only 30-some games for each. There's never enough to separate the pack. There's a similar problem for college football, except it's on a much smaller scale. That's why a 4 team playoff is perfect.

Most of the fun of the bball tourney is watching little teams come out of nowhere to compete with the big boys which is something that simply doesn't happen in cfb for a number of reasons. Four is a perfect number and should allow for an undefeated, dominant, and deserving Boise or MAC school to possibly sneak in if deserved. Voters currently won't give them a #1 or #2 national championship appearance but I think would be willing to give them a shot to prove themselves as a #4. The biggest concern in cfb right now is doing something about this SEC love fest so we don't have 4 SEC battling it out for a championship since they all manage to avoid each other during the regular season.