Baylor IS in some deep trouble

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Baylor just cancelled all media availability until game week...
 

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Baylor just cancelled all media availability until game week...

So basically they are just going to try and act like this didn't happen. Isn't that exactly what got them into this situation in the first place?
 

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What is the back story the with Baylor... what changed? Growing up I had teachers who went to Baylor and they would talk all the time about how small and insignificant their sports were but at least they did it the right way... great academics, all that stuff... Did they get a new President or AD or both... what brought on the change from academic school to a more win at all costs kind of mentality? It had to be something specific.
 

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What is the back story the with Baylor... what changed? Growing up I had teachers who went to Baylor and they would talk all the time about how small and insignificant their sports were but at least they did it the right way... great academics, all that stuff... Did they get a new President or AD or both... what brought on the change from academic school to a more win at all costs kind of mentality? It had to be something specific.

money
 

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I get that but who put the money over integrity? The money thing is true for Wake, Northwestern, ND, Stanford... Baylor all of a sudden chose to play ball at some point in the last decade, I was curious what changed inside the culture.
 

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What is the back story the with Baylor... what changed? Growing up I had teachers who went to Baylor and they would talk all the time about how small and insignificant their sports were but at least they did it the right way... great academics, all that stuff... Did they get a new President or AD or both... what brought on the change from academic school to a more win at all costs kind of mentality? It had to be something specific.

www(dot)baylorenvy(dot)com

And the constant complaining about not going 11-1 every year.

:wink:
 

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Worth mentioning that Baylor is private, Baptist and very conservative. So Briles probably felt pressure to distance himself from the situation given the school's values.

The same school who hired a sleaze B-Ball coach who tried to cover up a player murdering another player?
 

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From '06 to '10 when my highschool pals went there, they struggled to get a full football stadium EVER. Even for UT or OU games. Even when Baylor was "good". They literally gave away tickets and couldn't get their stadium full... and it's not a big stadium. One friend in particular was part of a section that would body paint for every game and there were some games where there wouldn't be anyone else within 2-3 rows of his group, and nobody would yell with them... he said this happened multiple times in his four years. Think Pitt student section.

I would attribute their rise in fame to the success from the last two RGIII years and a concerted effort to build their in-state brand of athletics via sleezy recruiting methods (mostly basketball). Briles running an extremely flashy offense definitely helps bring fans... It also REALLY helps that UT has sucked and A&M is no longer in the conference. TCU is benefiting from this as well. Basically, everything has lined up for them to get buzz for their program recently.

The alums I know still don't really care for their athletics programs all that much. Their fanbase reminds me of Stanford's in terms of passion.
 

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Coach: You're suspended tomorrow
Oakman: No, you're suspended tomorrow
Coach: Yes, sir....
 

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rumour amongst baylor fans was that he and his teammate missed curfew
 

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If Tallahassee still stands intact with no sanctions, nothing to see here....
 

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anyone see Shawn Oakman get rag dolled by the KSU Left Tackle on Thursday? Desperately trying to find the gif
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting addition to the signage on the practice field. <a href="https://t.co/JvJASNKy0r">pic.twitter.com/JvJASNKy0r</a></p>— Shehan Jeyarajah (@ShehanJeyarajah) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/717477779646709761">April 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The devil will come and try to strip you of everything you worked for</p>— Shawn Oakman (@PA2BU) <a href="https://twitter.com/PA2BU/status/716643027180064768">April 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting addition to the signage on the practice field. <a href="https://t.co/JvJASNKy0r">pic.twitter.com/JvJASNKy0r</a></p>— Shehan Jeyarajah (@ShehanJeyarajah) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/717477779646709761">April 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The devil will come and try to strip you of everything you worked for</p>— Shawn Oakman (@PA2BU) <a href="https://twitter.com/PA2BU/status/716643027180064768">April 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Shawn Oakman's quote is the stuff from which I say mental illness is made.

Now it's the devil's fault? Was it the devil's dick?

I look at that picture posted in the article above and I see that it is of a 'for shit' football player, and it is clear the cause is all above the neck!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Baylor?src=hash">#Baylor</a> defensive end Shawn Oakman has been arrested on sexual assault charge: <a href="https://t.co/3Lc2ct0Dog">https://t.co/3Lc2ct0Dog</a> <a href="https://t.co/gZj1xyZVuc">pic.twitter.com/gZj1xyZVuc</a></p>— Waco Tribune-Herald (@wacotrib) <a href="https://twitter.com/wacotrib/status/720356058531635200">April 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Waco PD report details domestic violence incident involving Baylor’s Shawn Oakman in 2013 – CollegeFootballTalk

Shawn Oakman was arrested on sexual assault charges earlier this month, but a Waco Police Department report obtained by Rivals.com’s Alex Dunlap uncovered another disturbing alleged incident involving the former Baylor defensive lineman.

On Jan. 10, 2013, a Waco police officer responded to an assault claim, with Oakman’s name given as the assailant.

Dunlap posted the three-page incident report on Twitter Monday:

Dunlap added that Baylor knew of the report but didn’t discipline Oakman, who played his first of three seasons for the Bears later that fall.

In February, ESPN dropped a damning story on Baylor’s pattern of ignoring sexual assault allegations, and followed that with a report the university didn’t investigate a sexual assault claim against two former football players.

Former Baylor defensive end Sam Ukwuachu in August was sentenced to 180 days in prison after being found guilty of the rape of a former Baylor soccer player. In 2014, former Baylor player Tevin Elliott was sentenced to 20 years in prison for two counts of sexual assault against a former Baylor student.

If Baylor indeed knew of the 2013 police report involving Oakman and did nothing about it, it would fit with the alarming reports that the university consistently ignored serious allegations involving violence against women.
 
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