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since when is 1 year "long tenure"?

I probably had 10,000 posts in by then. We're not talking about professoring here, it's a website... You don't think 10,000 posts is enough to give someone the chance to explain/correct themselves when after 10,000 posts they make ONE bad comment that was taken the wrong way?
 

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I (or any member) that has 1) long tenure and 2) zero history of said-behavior at least deserves the courtesy of 'Hey dude, not cool. Explain yourself, you could get banned for that'... before an automatic ban (first permanent, then reduced, btw).

Bullshit. It was always temp. There is a bug in the system that when you assign 3 points for an infraction and set duration it defaults to an indefinite perma-ban. Every single mod will back me up on this.

This was also clearly explained to you.
 
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koonja

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Bullshit. It was always temp. There is a bug in the system that when you assign 3 points for an infraction and set duration it defaults to an indefinite perma-ban. Every single mod will back me up on this.

This was also clearly explained to you.

Of course. Ok, then totally reasonable. What are we arguing again? You think I'm a trollish sheep? SMH.

So sheepish I called you out when you did exactly what you had just banned PANDFAN for, with your reasoning being 'you don't like 247sports'.

Call me whatever you want, I'm anything but sheepish.
 
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Of course. Ok, then totally reasonable. What are we arguing again? You think I'm a trollish sheep? SMH.

So sheepish I called you out when you did exactly what you had just banned PANDFAN for, with your reasoning being 'you don't like 247sports'.

Call me whatever you want, I'm anything but sheepish.

Changing your avatar to a sheep isn't trolling though, right?
 
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koonja

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Changing your avatar to a sheep isn't trolling though, right?

No idea what you're talking about. I block signatures, avatars, and images.

No idea what my current anything is cause someone really cool probably changed it.
 

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Of course. Ok, then totally reasonable. What are we arguing again? You think I'm a trollish sheep? SMH.

So sheepish I called you out when you did exactly what you had just banned PANDFAN for, with your reasoning being 'you don't like 247sports'.

Call me whatever you want, I'm anything but sheepish.

Sheep = easily led and manipulated person. Pat was your shepherd, you were a sheep.
 
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koonja

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Sheep = easily led and manipulated person. Pat was your shepherd, you were a sheep.

So true, although as you know, Pat primarily lived in the political threads, and you won't find a single post of mine there. Look it up.

So you couldn't be more wrong. What I did see him post was hilarious. That's why I liked him. I didn't follow him around the site, see above.

You keep lofting them up and I keep knocking them down. This is too easy.
 

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I probably had 10,000 posts in by then. We're not talking about professoring here, it's a website...

You were the one who chose the words "long" (as in time), and "tenure" (most usually associated with educators). I just asked since when is 1 year considered long tenure?

You don't think 10,000 posts is enough to give someone the chance to explain/correct themselves when after 10,000 posts they make ONE bad comment that was taken the wrong way?

If you had about 10,000 posts by then, I can guarantee that it was not your first bad comment. But I agree. I think you should have been allowed to explain yourself and/or apologize, before a ban.
 

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This is the most absurd psychologism I've read on here in awhile. And that's really saying something. It takes an absolute mind-fuck to believe what you just said.

You actually believe that his "funny joke"... which was the frankly stated post Koon quoted on the previous page about Yeargin being a big loss while chastising other members of the board... was such that when called out on it, he warped from a position of joking to be funny, to a position of outright trying to vehemently defend a position that he doesn't actually believe as if it was a seriously held belief. And this serious of actions doesn't make hi ma troll.

Hate to break it to you, but arguing a point of view you don't actually believe as if you did believe it is literally the text book definition of internet trolling.

Maybe past the point of people calling him out he was trolling because he continued. But when he came onto the board and compared Yeargin to Williams he was not trolling he was making a joke at the expense of all the people that were gushing over Yeargin.

Earlier in this thread you characterized it as trolling because he didn't like any ND recruits but then after they decommit he fell in love with them. Except that post was a joke making fun of the other posters losing their minds.

I dont think you have a good grasp on what trolling is.
 
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koonja

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To recap,

I've been called out for:

1) standing up for people on here,
2) for keeping my sheepish comment private (Hey Pat, base your argument on page 12) because I was afraid of posting that publicly and getting banned for it, and
3) for saying Pat should be in the banning HOF (#1 all time IMO. Doesn't mean I'm right), although people are offering cold hard cash to let him come back for one hour.

Solid day guys. And without even a single drop of rum!
 
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kmoose

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To recap,

I've been called out for:


3) for saying Pat should be in the banning HOF (#1 all time IMO. Doesn't mean I'm right), although people are offering cold hard cash to let him come back for one hour.

Solid day guys. And without even a drop of rum!

No. You were called out for throwing the IE version of a temper tantrum, because pat is not in the HOF. As if 90% of the board even gives a sh!t who is in there...........
 
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koonja

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No. You were called out for throwing the IE version of a temper tantrum, because pat is not in the HOF. As if 90% of the board even gives a sh!t who is in there...........

Did I? Even though I didn't resort to insulting anyone, even subtly? Wooly and I were having a grown man discussion.

AND YES IT MATTERS!
 

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RhodeIrish suggested a newsletter, but how about a thread instead. Here you can list banned users, the type and the duration. What do you think? I'll start...

Temporary Bans
User Duration
Autry Denson Ten days (starting 12/8)

Self-Imposed Bans
Greyhammer (studying for school)

Permanent Bans
95NDAlumNM
Irishfan33'
title2012/title2014/title2114/NJNP


Banning Hall of Fame
Arabia
Jayrock(kkkkkk)
mbeckha
NeuteredDoomer
All variations of Bin *****
Allgator
Ant80
Wolverine1997
Dirty Secret
Bruin Steve
Reggie Bush (et al)
IrishPat

To recap,

I've been called out for:

1) standing up for people on here,
2) for keeping my sheepish comment private (Hey Pat, base your argument on page 12) because I was afraid of posting that publicly and getting banned for it, and
3) for saying Pat should be in the banning HOF (#1 all time IMO. Doesn't mean I'm right), although people are offering cold hard cash to let him come back for one hour.

Solid day guys. And without even a single drop of rum!

I was confused the first time you brought it up, but you continue to bring it up.

Pat is in the HOF.
 
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koonja

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Are you yelling again? But you aren't throwing a cyber tantrum, are you?

Why would it matter?

Lol, I didn't think that one needed italics to be an obvious joke. That was my NDSean - Ultimate Warrior voice. But I was joking, not yelling.
 

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Lol, I didn't think that one needed italics to be an obvious joke. That was my NDSean - Ultimate Warrior voice. But I was joking, not yelling.

So "forgetting italics" is a pattern for you?

I didn't say anything racist....... I forget the italics!

I wasn't yelling....... I forgot the italics!
 

IrishLax

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You were the one who chose the words "long" (as in time), and "tenure" (most usually associated with educators). I just asked since when is 1 year considered long tenure?

If you had about 10,000 posts by then, I can guarantee that it was not your first bad comment. But I agree. I think you should have been allowed to explain yourself and/or apologize, before a ban.

The part Koon leaves out is that at this time, he was an extremely volatile and disliked poster on this board. About half of the reported posts involved him (either him reporting someone or vice versa).

And then he has the gall to complain about a short temp ban for a racist post, because we all should've been able to use psychic powers to infer that he wasn't really being racist, just trying to make a funny joke about race.
 

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So true, although as you know, Pat primarily lived in the political threads, and you won't find a single post of mine there. Look it up.

So you couldn't be more wrong. What I did see him post was hilarious. That's why I liked him. I didn't follow him around the site, see above.

What?

So your contention is that, just because you didn't participate in political threads, that you weren't completely beholden to him?

As a counterpoint, how about:
1) Your absurd dedication to "free Pat"
2) Your unequivocal support for Pat at all times
3) Your custom pro-Pat signature you used for a long time
4) Your attempt to back-channel below the radar to support Pat in trolling

And on and on.

You keep lofting them up and I keep knocking them down. This is too easy.

Riiiiiight. You can believe whatever you want in your little sheep brain, the rest of us are living in reality.
 

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Maybe past the point of people calling him out he was trolling because he continued. But when he came onto the board and compared Yeargin to Williams he was not trolling he was making a joke at the expense of all the people that were gushing over Yeargin.

Earlier in this thread you characterized it as trolling because he didn't like any ND recruits but then after they decommit he fell in love with them. Except that post was a joke making fun of the other posters losing their minds.

I dont think you have a good grasp on what trolling is.

Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Trolling is literally making disingenuous posts for the sake of eliciting reactions/emotional responses.

So him "falling in love" with Yeargin in order to make a "joke" at the expense of others that would elicit a reaction, and then vehemently defending that position to elicit more reaction, is textbook trolling.
 
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koonja

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The part Koon leaves out is that at this time, he was an extremely volatile and disliked poster on this board. About half of the reported posts involved him (either him reporting someone or vice versa).

And then he has the gall to complain about a short temp ban for a racist post, because we all should've been able to use psychic powers to infer that he wasn't really being racist, just trying to make a funny joke about race.

I've never been well liked on here. That's not new or old. I've always spoke my mind (anti sheepish), never insulted anyone, nor told them their opinion is garbage.

I have strong opinions sometimes, I air them, and I accept others opinions. I don't shy away from and topic, and some people take disagreements too seriously.

But that's neither here nor there. I was anything but racist, and the aforementioned banning was anything but fair considering all of the above, IMO.
 

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But that's neither here nor there. I was anything but racist, and the aforementioned banning was anything but fair considering all of the above, IMO.

Except that it WAS racist as written, and you tried to retro-justify that you "forgot italics" in making a race joke, and a short temp ban is standard operating procedure for something like that.

95NDAlumNM was very longtime poster who made a racist post. I forget which mod did it, but he was perma-banned on the spot.

You can keep trying to rehash old "injustices" and make up your own facts but you've never been treated unfairly on here.
 
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koonja

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Irishlax, you keep calling me sheepish. Can you adress my explanation of what you call sheepish? You've refused to address the completely legitimate reason of why I am now 'sheepish' because I once repped pat and said 'yo, the page you're looking for for your argument is page 23'?

Or are you simply trolling?
 

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Irishlax, you keep calling me sheepish. Can you adress my explanation of what you call sheepish? You've refused to address the completely legitimate reason of why I am now 'sheepish' because I once repped pat and said 'yo, the page you're looking for for your argument is page 23'?

Or are you simply trolling?

Hahaha are you serious right now? You literally quoted and responded to my post where I stated that I am calling you a SHEEP -- not sheepish -- and defined the term. See post #1576 (again).

This is unreal. Try harder, do better.
 
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So who changed his avatar to a sheep?

I would hope the mods are above that kind of behavior here and try to act professionally. Or was it koonja? He said he blocks those images for all users..
 

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How does banning work? What is stopping IrishPat, NJNP, or anyone else from just creating a new user name?

Do you ban the user name or the IP address?
 
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koonja

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Hahaha are you serious right now? You literally quoted and responded to my post where I stated that I am calling you a SHEEP -- not sheepish -- and defined the term. See post #1576 (again).

This is unreal. Try harder, do better.

So who changed his avatar to a sheep?

I would hope the mods are above that kind of behavior here and try to act professionally. Or was it koonja? He said he blocks those images for all users..

You're right. You called me a sheep at least twice and said it in a snide way. Big difference.

How about how I pointed out ththat Pat primarily posted in political threads, yet youll never see posts of mine there. If I followed him around, don't you think I would have wandered to the political threads? Or maybe I simply liked the postate of his that I saw and didn't follow him around at all. Or are you just throwing crap at the wall to see if it sticks?

I didn't change my avatar and Idk what it is. No clue who changed it.
 
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The part Koon leaves out is that at this time, he was an extremely volatile and disliked poster on this board. About half of the reported posts involved him (either him reporting someone or vice versa).

And then he has the gall to complain about a short temp ban for a racist post, because we all should've been able to use psychic powers to infer that he wasn't really being racist, just trying to make a funny joke about race.

Hold on here Lax. We all know that koon has the reps to back up how cool he is. Because he hates to break it to us mods that he does not care about the board enough to care about how many reps he has but if we did want to confirm how cool he was, we, the mods could check his rep points, you know, for reference and such.

And I will confirm that prior to the Admiral Backhand saga and NJNP, Koon was single handled involved in 70% of the reported posts.
 

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Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Trolling is literally making disingenuous posts for the sake of eliciting reactions/emotional responses.

So him "falling in love" with Yeargin in order to make a "joke" at the expense of others that would elicit a reaction, and then vehemently defending that position to elicit more reaction, is textbook trolling.

The point of a troll is to get people pissed off at them. For example if i went into the ferguson thread and said "These rioters are a bunch of animals that need to be put down." Now of course i do not believe that, it would simply be an attempt to piss people off. For a troll seeing everyone get outraged is entertaining and the purpose of their whole post. They are not trying to entertain other posters, they just find other posters anger funny.

Now if i went into the BVG is a gangster thread and posted that "we should promote BVG to HC since BK is now being courted" i would be making a JOKE. Even though i also dont believe this post my intention is to make other users laugh not to troll them. My expected reaction would be lol's or other jokes, not people coming after me telling me how stupid my opinion was, when clearly i was joking in the first place.
 
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