All Things Star Wars Thread (Spoilers)

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

 

[zelezo vlk]

https://shirt.woot.com/offers/resistance-is-futile

 

[Domina Nostra]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

Ouch.

 

[IrishLax]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

Goddamn after watching that I'm not sure how I even tolerated that movie and I'm hella pissed that JJ Abrams didn't get to direct this last one... my god was that a total mess almost to the point of being unsalvageable.

 

[ACamp1900]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

So... for like those who liked the movie...... yeah,... thoughts?

 

[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember Luke rapping in the snowspeeder on Hoth? There's more...<a href="https://t.co/phuj2rR4Hf">https://t.co/phuj2rR4Hf</a></p>— Bad Lip Reading (@BadLipReading) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadLipReading/status/942848794034552832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[greyhammer90]

So... for like those who liked the movie...... yeah,... thoughts?

Don't have time to watch the whole thing or to respond in the detail I would like but ten minutes in and this is some lazy ass analysis. He's basically just giving a one sentence summary of each scene in chronological order in the most negative language possible and then saying "what the fuck" ad nauseum. I could do the same thing with A New Hope.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I love it

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[irishnd31]

So... for like those who liked the movie...... yeah,... thoughts?

Can’t disagree with anything in the video. Still I enjoyed the movie. Went and saw this with my family and was entertained. My kids and parents enjoyed it. Great family time spent.For me it’s less about “lazy writing”( which I see where die hards would be upset as many things don’t make sense). More about me taking the kids to see Star Wars. It’s fantasy. It was a good time for us. I’m glad I don’t know as much as many of the enthusiasts on here. Probably would have killed the movie for me too.

 

[Buster Bluth]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

Fucking wonderful.

 

[Buster Bluth]

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This was one of the suggested videos from the one already posted. Kinda wild in retrospect.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

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This was one of the suggested videos from the one already posted. Kinda wild in retrospect.

It’s pretty clear the guy hates the movie, hates what they have done with the charachter. It’s all very sad. It’s just a sad situation for everyone.

 

[irishnd31]

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This was one of the suggested videos from the one already posted. Kinda wild in retrospect.

Well put at 22:29. Agree with this.

 

[gkIrish]

https://youtu.be/9QJRw56cOVw

So good overall. Only made a couple of comments that I rolled my eyes at.

He really did a good job highlighting the inconsistent use of shields and the mess they made with Holdo and Shrek (I will be calling her this from now on).

 

[Domina Nostra]

So good overall. Only made a couple of comments that I rolled my eyes at.

He really did a good job highlighting the inconsistent use of shields and the mess they made with Holdo and Shrek (I will be calling her this from now on).

The only glaring thing I think he missed was the absurdity of everything about the Benicio Del Toro's mission.

First of all, why is there a master code breaker, with all his equipment, in some completely random jail cell, even though Maz Kantana sent them half way across the universe to a particular planet to get some other guy, since he was apparently the only guy who could do the job? If there were a lot of those guys, wouldn't a military fleet have a few? In any event, big coincidence that a second one was in their cell. So convoluted.

Anyway, why on Earth would a thief-for-hire accept a "job" on the fly that involved breaking onto the flag ship of the space' Nazis in the middle of an active battlefield?

It is literally the most dangerous situation imaginable. Everyone is on full alert. Everyone is in kill mode. You will not be arrested. You will be killed. You are almost certainly going to die in about 10 different ways.

The people you are relying on for your big payoff are totally bumbling amateurs who are in jail and don't seem to have any resources. The situation they are describing would give you no reasonable hope for ever getting paid.

It would have been like grabbing Han Solo at Mos Eisley and saying, "Quick! The Emperor's new Death Star battle station is heading towards our secret outlaw base. A big fight is going on, so we need you to break into the base that we are desperately trying to destroy, and turn of the laser for us. We'll work out the money later."

And why did the First Order pay him for information? Seems like a group that is willing to blow up 5 planets is definitely going to kill someone who breaks on to their battleships, after they torture whatever they want out of him.

Did I miss something? Was he First Order all along or something?

 

[ACamp1900]

I also liked the plan of "Let's get down to that planet directly next to the FO Fleet and start blasting out distress signals to the far reaches of the galaxy... don't worry, those huge ships right next to us, the ones trying to kill us, that have all this incredible SW tech, will never hear any of it...."

 

[Domina Nostra]

I also liked the plan of "Let's get down to that planet directly next to the FO Fleet and start blasting out distress signals to the far reaches of the galaxy... don't worry, those huge ships right next to us, the ones trying to kill us, that have all this incredible SW tech, will never hear any of it...."

The First Order has exactly the tech that the scene requires. No more, no less.

Personally, I was getting tired of them always having a bigger gun (Star Killer Base, then Dreadnaughts, then the tracker, then the battering ram). Again, it works in some 35,000 foot narrative sense, but its boring to watch. Are they the Empire, or are they a remnant splinter?

But seriously, getting back to the master code breaker that they coincidentally stumbled across in their jail cell, why would anyone go on that mission?

 

[Buster Bluth]

The First Order has exactly the tech that the scene requires. No more, no less.

Personally, I was getting tired of them always having a bigger gun (Star Killer Base, then Dreadnaughts, then the tracker, then the battering ram). Again, it works in some 35,000 foot narrative sense, but its boring to watch. Are they the Empire, or are they a remnant splinter?

This. So much this. Why is a remnant split off more powerful than they ever imagined?

But seriously, getting back to the master code breaker that they coincidentally stumbled across in their jail cell, why would anyone go on that mission?

**plot**

What I hated most about the SJW angle here was that they introduced the notion that war profiteers are the real string pullers, the financial class are playing both sides. But it didn't make any sense in a universe where the antagonists blow up whole star systems, completely eviscerating planets worth of GDP is going to ultimately hurt the balance sheet.

 

[GATTACA!]

So fucking cool.

 

[SonofOahu]

So fucking cool.

Yeah.

Very anime. Liked it, a lot.

 

[zelezo vlk]

What I hated most about the SJW angle here was that they introduced the notion that war profiteers are the real string pullers, the financial class are playing both sides. But it didn't make any sense in a universe where the antagonists blow up whole star systems, completely eviscerating planets worth of GDP is going to ultimately hurt the balance sheet.

Did anybody else see Rose as a tumblrina who "literally died" after saving Finn (which made no sense) and kissing him? I was expecting everybody to stand up and clap after that.

 

[greyhammer90]

So fucking cool.

An issue I had with that scene, if such a thing can be done, why wasn't that the plan to begin with? At least three ships before hers just allowed themselves to run out of fuel and get blown up. Why not turn them around and take the dreadnought out if you're going to get blown up anyway? Further, it didn't seem like that was the plan with the big ship anyway. It was presented as a spur of the moment decision only after the transports started getting picked off. If you know that your going to die regardless, why not plan the kamakazi run to begin with?

 

[IrishLax]

An issue I had with that scene, if such a thing can be done, why wasn't that the plan to begin with? At least three ships before hers just allowed themselves to run out of fuel and get blown up. Why not turn them around and take the dreadnought out if you're going to get blown up anyway? Further, it didn't seem like that was the plan with the big ship anyway. It was presented as a spur of the moment decision only after the transports started getting picked off. If you know that your going to die regardless, why not plan the kamakazi run to begin with?

Right. It makes literally no sense.

The more I've thought about it, the whole movie is shit. It might even be worse than Phantom Menace.

 

[greyhammer90]

It might even be worse than Phantom Menace.

Lol.

The movie was fine, it wasn't perfect, but it was fine. I think Star Wars fans need to come to terms with the fact that the Star Wars brand is probably never going to make movies as good as they want because at this point the series is swinging 2/8 with the 3 of the remaining being terrible, and the other 3 being goodish to mediocre. I thought TLJ had some of the cringiest attempts at emotion I've felt in awhile, but when it worked, it worked really well. Not even the great Star Wars films withstand scrutiny when considering plot holes and dumb shit. ("Hold your fire... There's no lifeforms aboard that escape pod in a universe where Droids are as common and sentient as people." Wut.)

 

[Cackalacky]

Lol.

The movie was fine, it wasn't perfect, but it was fine. I think Star Wars fans need to come to terms with the fact that the Star Wars brand is probably never going to make movies as good as they want because at this point the series is swinging 2/8 with the 3 of the remaining being terrible, and the other 3 being goodish to mediocre. I thought TLJ had some of the cringiest attempts at emotion I've felt in awhile, but when it worked, it worked really well. Not even the great Star Wars films withstand scrutiny when considering plot holes and dumb shit. ("Hold your fire... There's no lifeforms aboard that escape pod in a universe where Droids are as common and sentient as people." Wut.)

I agree.... for Example Luke's character

Kid Cackalacky....By the end of RotJ Luke was a hero and good guy and perfect.
Adult Cackalacky.... Luke was really a fucking darkside Sith. LOL

 

[Buster Bluth]

Right. It makes literally no sense.

The more I've thought about it, the whole movie is shit. It might even be worse than Phantom Menace.

It really might be.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Lol.

The movie was fine, it wasn't perfect, but it was fine. I think Star Wars fans need to come to terms with the fact that the Star Wars brand is probably never going to make movies as good as they want because at this point the series is swinging 2/8 with the 3 of the remaining being terrible, and the other 3 being goodish to mediocre. I thought TLJ had some of the cringiest attempts at emotion I've felt in awhile, but when it worked, it worked really well. Not even the great Star Wars films withstand scrutiny when considering plot holes and dumb shit. ("Hold your fire... There's no lifeforms aboard that escape pod in a universe where Droids are as common and sentient as people." Wut.)

The difference is the "movie sin" count. No movie is perfect, and Star Wars is fantasy after all.

It took me out of the universe immersion as many times as any of the prequels did.

 

[tussin]

Kamikaze spaceships break the Star Wars universe and basically invalidate all decisions in the OT. Stupid, shitty movie.

 

[ACamp1900]

The difference is the "movie sin" count. No movie is perfect, and Star Wars is fantasy after all.

It took me out of the universe immersion as many times as any of the prequels did.

This. It's well acted for the most part, has some beautiful shots and yes, any SW movie will have moments that you could laugh at upon further review. This movie destroyed so much of the established universe and rendered the OG trilogy basically meaningless and nonsensical.. and it had larger plot holes that other films... just my thoughts on it.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Right. It makes literally no sense.

The more I've thought about it, the whole movie is shit. It might even be worse than Phantom Menace.

I’m with you. I will take any prequel over this mess. For all their warts, they always felt like Star Wars. Yeah the dialogue sucked ass. Yes, jar jar is an awful charachter. But this garbage just feels like bad fan fic from another universe with star wars charachters slapped on, and done shoddily at every turn.