All Things SkunkBear

[TomHaverford]

makes you wonder if this is why Les Miles didnt take a gig this year.

yeah I don't think that is it.

Miles probably just isn't that attractive of a candidate. He's a 64 year old coach that runs a stone-age offense.

Texas was only ever going after Tom Herman, and they should've. He's an awesome coach.

Oregon went after Fleck and Taggart, hired Taggart. Both guys in their early 40's that run multiple offenses. Miles at Oregon would be a disaster. Oregon needs innovation on offense to keep ahead of the pace- they don't get the athletes that LSU does on defense.

Purdue went and hired Jeff Brohm- who likes to throw the ball over the place. Last time Purdue had any measure of success it was with a similar type of offense and coach in Joe Tiller- who really pioneered the passing spread in the Big Ten. Purdue absolutely needs a schematic advantage like that to be competitive. Miles would be a disaster at a place like Purdue.

Houston decided to keep things in-tact and promote Applewhite from OC to head coach. Again, think they made the right choice there.

Miles just isn't that great a head coaching candidate. I think there's only a few jobs he could have any measure of real success at. LSU was one of those jobs.

 

[dublinirish]

yeah I don't think that is it.

Miles probably just isn't that attractive of a candidate. He's a 64 year old coach that runs a stone-age offense.

Texas was only ever going after Tom Herman, and they should've. He's an awesome coach.

Oregon went after Fleck and Taggart, hired Taggart. Both guys in their early 40's that run multiple offenses. Miles at Oregon would be a disaster. Oregon needs innovation on offense to keep ahead of the pace- they don't get the athletes that LSU does on defense.

Purdue went and hired Jeff Brohm- who likes to throw the ball over the place. Last time Purdue had any measure of success it was with a similar type of offense and coach in Joe Tiller- who really pioneered the passing spread in the Big Ten. Purdue absolutely needs a schematic advantage like that to be competitive. Miles would be a disaster at a place like Purdue.

Houston decided to keep things in-tact and promote Applewhite from OC to head coach. Again, think they made the right choice there.

Miles just isn't that great a head coaching candidate. I think there's only a few jobs he could have any measure of real success at. LSU was one of those jobs.

what does harbaugh run then?

 

[TomHaverford]

what does harbaugh run then?

are you seriously trying to compare Harbaugh's offenses to Miles' offenses? Seriously?

 

[pumpdog20]

are you seriously trying to compare Harbaugh's offenses to Miles' offenses? Seriously?

well, he lines up 10 in the backfield...

 

[BoredIrish]

You can never say never.

Highly doubt he takes that job though. I'd bet he's perfectly content with what he has now. He literally answers to no one. He wants to have a ridiculous signing day extravaganza with C-list celebrities and all-time pro sports greats like Derek Jeter, Charles Woodson, Tom Brady, and Ric Flair- he has a god damn singing day extravaganza. He wants to go do 400 satellite camps in 98 different countries- he does that. He demands his own private jet from Michigan to do that and to go recruit- he has it.

He went on a very public tirade against the officiating after the Ohio State game. He skipped the introductory press conference for the Orange Bowl. Michigan didn't say a word about either. It was the Big Ten that had to reprimand him. And after the Big Ten did that, Warde Manuel the AD at Michigan came out and said we consider the issues resolved- we support our coach- nothing to see here folks- move along. If he was in the NFL- none of that crap would fly.

The guy has absolute complete autonomy. What he says goes. He answers to no one. Forget all the deep ties he has to Ann Arbor and Michigan. Or that fact that he bought his parents a house and they live a few doors down from him. The guy has it MADE and he's getting paid $7 million a year- really $9 million this year because of that whole $2 million interest free loan/insurance crap or whatever the hell that was.

Dude is not going anywhere IMO. Especially losing to Meyer two years in a row and losing like that. He's a sore loser. As we saw at that press conference. He's not going to go anywhere until he beats Meyer into submission. That's going to be his lifes mission from now on I'd bet. He's a petty dude.

Man... I would love this guy at ND. Maybe even more than Urban.

It could never happen at ND... but I would love to have this guy on my side.

 

[Legacy]

One 2016 decommit that Michigan may have regretted is David Reese, who has been Florida's first string MLB. From Farmington, Michigan, too. Named SEC player of the week.

Michgan 2016 LB Signees
Devin Bush (ILB) - now at SLB
Elysee Mbem-Bosse

Dytarius Johnson, ILB, was unable to qualify, but appears to be in the 2017 class.

 

[TomHaverford]

One 2016 decommit that Michigan may have regretted is David Reese, who has been Florida's first string MLB. From Farmington, Michigan, too. Named SEC player of the week.

Michgan 2016 LB Signees
Devin Bush (ILB) - now at SLB
Elysee Mbem-Bosse

Dytarius Johnson, ILB, was unable to qualify, but appears to be in the 2017 class.

That one hurts, especially since LB recruiting under Hoke sucked so hard. Wasn't much there in the cupboards. Reese would be a huge asset at MLB. Obviously. That's just an out and out miss by Harbaugh.

 

[Legacy]

Catching up on Michigan's Class of 2016 decommits

Catching up on Michigan's Class of 2016 decommits

Based on depth charts of other universiities. "Not listed" may mean player could have been redshirted.

In order of verbal commitment date:
Eric Swenson, to Oklahoma - Not Listed (11/25/13)
Dele Harding to Illinois - Not Listed
David Reese, to Florida - First string MLB (4/4/15)
Matthew Falcon, to W. Mich - Not Listed
Kiante Enis, to Indiana - Not Listed
Antwaine Richardson, to Maryland - third string CB
Rashad Weaver, to Pitt - third string DE (6/14/15)
Victor Viramontes, to Cal - Not Listed
Messiah deWeaver, to Mich St - Not Listed
Devery Hamilton, to Stanford - Not Listed
Sir Patrick Scott, to Marshall - Not Listed (8/2/15)
Jordan Elliott, to Texas - Not Listed (1/28/16)

Dytarius Johnson - did not qualify - will sign with 2017 class (6/6/15)
Brad Hawkins, signed with Michigan - Did not qualify, to Prep - will sign to 2017 class (7/3/15)
Ahmir Mitchell - enrolled, suspended indefinitely, - to prep - will sign with Rutgers 2017 (8/27/15)

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm gonna leave this here for the lurkers and TomHalvarti.

But have no fear, someone's still getting Swensoned. So Herbert, Hall, Stueber, Honigsford keep popping that Xanax cuz someone's getting the blade!


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[BobbyMac]

Based on depth charts of other universiities. "Not listed" may mean player could have been redshirted.

In order of verbal commitment date:
Eric Swenson, to Illinois - Not Listed (11/25/13)
Dele Harding to Illinois - Not Listed
David Reese, to Florida - First string MLB (4/4/15)
Matthew Falcon, to W. Mich - Not Listed
Kiante Enis, to Indiana - Not Listed
Antwaine Richardson, to Maryland - third string CB
Rashad Weaver, to Pitt - third string DE (6/14/15)
Victor Viramontes, to Cal - Not Listed
Messiah deWeaver, to Mich St - Not Listed
Devery Hamilton, to Stanford - Not Listed
Sir Patrick Scott, to Marshall - Not Listed (8/2/15)
Jordan Elliott, to Texas - Not Listed (1/28/16)

Dytarius Johnson - did not qualify - will sign with 2017 class (6/6/15)
Brad Hawkins, signed with Michigan - Did not qualify, to Prep - will sign to 2017 class (7/3/15)
Ahmir Mitchell - enrolled, suspended indefinitely, - to prep - will sign with Rutgers 2017 (8/27/15)

Erik Swenson went to OU, not UofI
Kiante Enis is in legal trouble. Not sure what IU did in regards to a suspension (if any yet)

 

[zelezo vlk]

Was Enis the one who was arrested for having sex with a severely underage girl?

 

[BobbyMac]

Was Enis the one who was arrested for having sex with a severely underage girl?

Yes. 13 or younger is the law he broke. Not sure what age they were when this occurred however.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: No. 1 OC in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rivals100?src=hash">#Rivals100</a> Cesar Ruiz commits to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Michigan?src=hash">#Michigan</a>. He talks about it here <a href="https://t.co/cbV5GsCTZy">https://t.co/cbV5GsCTZy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/8aDpNYjZFn">pic.twitter.com/8aDpNYjZFn</a></p>— Adam Friedman (@RivalsFriedman) <a href="https://twitter.com/RivalsFriedman/status/810894872630689792">December 19, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[phork]

Boy I sure can't wait to get jack hammered the next time we play them!

 

[Legacy]

With Ruiz commitments, Michigan has 22 verbal commitments plus Dytarious Johnson from last year, who says he will enroll in January with a scholarship.

OLine has five verbals with three graduating Seniors. Two more OL announcements - Chuck Filiaga, OT and Taderrell Slayton, OG - to go. Both favor Michigan. Who "decommits" due to meritocracy?

They also want two OLBs and one more DE, and would add Hicks to CB.

 

[Free Manera]

I for one am eagerly awaiting the sloppy seconds when Harbaugh starts forcing recruits out

 

[NDgradstudent]

Until they prove they can beat OSU, who cares?

 

[koonja]

Until they prove they can beat OSU, who cares?

That's the thing. UM/Harbaugh is already 0-2 versus OSU. OSU was super young this year, and Michigan had forty three seniors. This was their best chance to beat OSU, and they didn't...

Next year, OSU will be the loaded team facing a young Michigan team. Guess how that's going to go? 0-3.

The following year, both teams will be stacked, but it'll be at the Horseshoe. I think it's more likely Harbaugh starts out (finishes?) 0-4 against OSU than starts 1-3 by splitting the next two.

 

[TomHaverford]

With Ruiz commitments, Michigan has 22 verbal commitments plus Dytarious Johnson from last year, who says he will enroll in January with a scholarship.

OLine has five verbals with three graduating Seniors. Two more OL announcements - Chuck Filiaga, OT and Taderrell Slayton, OG - to go. Both favor Michigan. Who "decommits" due to meritocracy?

They also want two OLBs and one more DE, and would add Hicks to CB.

Think you're thinking of 4* WR/S Brad Hawkins of New Jersey from the 2016 class. He's coming in with this class. Johnson is done with Michigan, he will not be coming to Michigan.

They will take Filiaga if they can get him and probably be done at OL now. Slaton isn't going to qualify and Michigan is barely even talking to him. He was suppose to take an official like 3 times and had to cancel every time because of tests. He is a long shot to end up at Michigan.

They'll probably land Drew Singleton and Jordan Anthony at LB. They also really want Willie Gay, who publicly says Michigan leads- but that's going to be an extremely tough pull out of Mississippi. Gay was committed to Ole Miss but de-committed and all the SEC "insiders" are pretty much guaranteeing he winds up at Mississippi State.

As for DL recruiting- think they are targeting DT's and guys who can play DT and SDE more than pure DE's. They want Deron Irving-Bey, Jay Tufele, and Aubrey Solomon and they'd take all 3 if they could get them.

 

[TomHaverford]

That's the thing. UM/Harbaugh is already 0-2 versus OSU. OSU was super young this year, and Michigan had forty three seniors. This was their best chance to beat OSU, and they didn't...

Next year, OSU will be the loaded team facing a young Michigan team. Guess how that's going to go? 0-3.

The following year, both teams will be stacked, but it'll be at the Horseshoe. I think it's more likely Harbaugh starts out (finishes?) 0-4 against OSU than starts 1-3 by splitting the next two.

wouldn't bet against Harbaugh.

He's closing the talent gap on Ohio State. Urban had a 5 year head start. Harbaugh is winning with guys that weren't his. He is going to have Michigan loaded here very soon. He's been playing with average QB's and average RB's. He'll find his "next Luck" and he'll have that OL loaded up with road graters. Ruiz is physically ready to play right now. He's very technically sound and ready to play early too. Ben Bredeson at LG , Ruiz at C and Mike Onwenu at RG could wind up being the best interior offensive line that Michigan has produced in at least 15 years. All 3 of those guys are animals and good football players. They aren't a bunch of Kyle Kalis' who look like Tarzan but play like Jane.

And IF he can some how pull of Najee Harris, he'll have the best 1-2 RB combo in the B1G with Harris starting and Evans being the change of pace back. Harris is that good that he could walk in at Michigan, start right away and be the best RB in the B1G. And Evans would be a perfect compliment to a RB like Harris and he'd just be that much better playing off someone like Harris vs. a complete scrub like Deveon Smith.

 

[koonja]

wouldn't bet against Harbaugh.

He's closing the talent gap on Ohio State. Urban had a 5 year head start. Harbaugh is winning with guys that weren't his. He is going to have Michigan loaded here very soon. He's been playing with average QB's and average RB's. He'll find his "next Luck" and he'll have that OL loaded up with road graters. Ruiz is physically ready to play right now. He's very technically sound and ready to play early too. Ben Bredeson at LG , Ruiz at C and Mike Onwenu at RG could wind up being the best interior offensive line that Michigan has produced in at least 15 years. All 3 of those guys are animals and good football players. They aren't a bunch of Kyle Kalis' who look like Tarzan but play like Jane.

And IF he can some how pull of Najee Harris, he'll have the best 1-2 RB combo in the B1G with Harris starting and Evans being the change of pace back. Harris is that good that he could walk in at Michigan, start right away and be the best RB in the B1G. And Evans would be a perfect compliment to a RB like Harris and he'd just be that much better playing off someone like Harris vs. a complete scrub like Deveon Smith.

I would when Urban is on the other side. Harbaugh just had a significantly more talented and experienced team and he lost. It was a good game, but he lost. Next year, Urban has the better team.

 

[koonja]

TomHaverford, I guess I'll say there's no sense in looking 2 seasons ahead, but how do you think UM fares in 2017 at home against OSU?

 

[TomHaverford]

TomHaverford, I guess I'll say there's no sense in looking 2 seasons ahead, but how do you think UM fares in 2017 at home against OSU?

who knows at this point?

A lot still depends on who decides to come back. If Maurice Hurst Jr and Jabrill Peppers come back, think that will obviously help out a lot. Hurst was the best defensive linemen on the team down the stretch this year. Rumors are he is leaning towards coming back. Peppers is probably gone, but I think he might come back if they let him play safety. He's a bad fit at LB'er. I do know he wants to play safety in the NFL- he's said that publicly. If those two guys came back that would instantly help shore up the starting defense a lot. There's also the issue of Jeremy Clark getting a 6th year. He was starting over Stribling before he got hurt, he is a very good player and would absolutely be a starting CB in 2017 if he was granted a 6th year.

I think a lot still depends on who they close out this class with. I'll tell you what, if they land Najee Harris- that will be a huge boost in the arm. He's significantly better than any RB they have on the roster. If he had skipped his senior year of high school and played at Michigan this past year he'd have started over Deveon Smith. Can't even put into words how valuable a RB like that is. He is an instant starter and 1,000 yard rusher as a true frosh. He is that good. He's also just so damn complete, he can run pass routes, has great hands, and he's a fierce pass blocker.

A lot also depends on the recovery timeline of LT Grant Newsome. If he can come back healthy that'll be a huge boost to the OL. Dream scenario would be he comes back healthy at LT, Bredeson stays at LG, Ruiz is good enough to win the C job, and Mason Cole moves to RT.

There are a lot of moving parts here. Will know way more after NSD and spring ball.

 

[Legacy]

Think you're thinking of 4* WR/S Brad Hawkins of New Jersey from the 2016 class. He's coming in with this class. Johnson is done with Michigan, he will not be coming to Michigan.

They will take Filiaga if they can get him and probably be done at OL now. Slaton isn't going to qualify and Michigan is barely even talking to him. He was suppose to take an official like 3 times and had to cancel every time because of tests. He is a long shot to end up at Michigan.

They'll probably land Drew Singleton and Jordan Anthony at LB. They also really want Willie Gay, who publicly says Michigan leads- but that's going to be an extremely tough pull out of Mississippi. Gay was committed to Ole Miss but de-committed and all the SEC "insiders" are pretty much guaranteeing he winds up at Mississippi State.

As for DL recruiting- think they are targeting DT's and guys who can play DT and SDE more than pure DE's. They want Deron Irving-Bey, Jay Tufele, and Aubrey Solomon and they'd take all 3 if they could get them.

LB Dytarious Johnson to enroll at Michigan in January after semester of prep school (I assume he has a scholarship.)

Agree they probably land Singleton and Anthony, also Irving-Bey.
Tufele is getting recruited hard by Ohio State, too.

Of note, twenty of twenty-six recruits from the Class of 2016 played this year. Only four of fourteen from the Class of '15 burned their redshirt.

 

[TomHaverford]

LB Dytarious Johnson to enroll at Michigan in January after semester of prep school (I assume he has a scholarship.)

Agree they probably land Singleton and Anthony, also Irving-Bey.
Tufele is getting recruited hard by Ohio State, too.

Of note, twenty of twenty-six recruits from the Class of 2016 played this year. Only four of fourteen from the Class of '15 burned their redshirt.

Harbaugh likes to get young guys out there on the field and get them reps.

I think guys like Kekoa Crawford, Chris Evans, and Eddie McDoom are going to be a lot better off and ready to contribute in 2017 because of it.

 

[ulukinatme]

Boy I sure can't wait to get jack hammered the next time we play them!

Meh, fuck Michigan.

 

[woolybug25]

Harbaugh likes to get young guys

I know, right...

 

[ulukinatme]

Harbaugh likes to get young guys

I know, right...

Sleepover!

 

[BobbyMac]

Sleepover!

Netflix & Chill w/ Stranger Things. Sounds felonious.

 

[dublinirish]

UM football player charged with sexual assault in East Lansing