All Things pOSU

[Jimmy3Putt]

Day sucks, yet he’s undefeated against us…..

 

[Valpodoc85]

College football isn't the NFL. Rivalry games matter, recruiting battles matter, the coaches personality matters....

 

[IrishTusker]

Day sucks, yet he’s undefeated against us…..

So was John Cooper, that doesn't matter to OSU fans. And they know that the game was basically handed to them by ND's incompetence anyway.

 

[ThePiombino]

So was John Cooper, that doesn't matter to OSU fans. And they know that the game was basically handed to them by ND's incompetence anyway.

I'm sure they're having trouble sleeping at night about it...

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[dublinirish]

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[irish2104]

Oh wow that would be wild...

 

[rtrn2glory]

So is Arnold in the portal? Wouldn't that be tampering if he's not

 

[irishff1014]

So is Arnold in the portal? Wouldn't that be tampering if he's not

If it’s his family probably not.

 

[BeauBenken]

So is Arnold in the portal? Wouldn't that be tampering if he's not

Tampering isn't something the NCAA does anything about.

 

[allenm5333]

Tampering isn't something the NCAA does anything about.

If they did,ND would be screwed lol

 

[AvesEvo]

So is Arnold in the portal? Wouldn't that be tampering if he's not

Exactly what I was thinking?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Ohio State isn't firing a coach that's gone 56-8 in his career there

I'm not sure. They gave John Cooper a lot of time under a different administration in a different era. I don't know that Day is going to receive the benefit of the doubt in the era we are now in. Especially is he continues to do what Cooper did and what both Tressel and Meyer did not: lose to Michigan.

Kiffin seems to have sociopathic tendencies that so many successful coaches today have. That's what it is going to take over what is quite clearly a very enabled Jim Harbaugh Michigan program. Harbaugh is getting Michigan the results they have long desired, Meyer is gone and they're going to tolerate him until those results stop. Ohio State needs to stay ahead of the curve. I'm sure plenty of programs would love to have Ryan Day and he'll land quite softly.

 

[stlnd01]

I'm not sure. They gave John Cooper a lot of time under a different administration in a different era. I don't know that Day is going to receive the benefit of the doubt in the era we are now in. Especially is he continues to do what Cooper did and what both Tressel and Meyer did not: lose to Michigan.

Kiffin seems to have sociopathic tendencies that so many successful coaches today have. That's what it is going to take over what is quite clearly a very enabled Jim Harbaugh Michigan program. Harbaugh is getting Michigan the results they have long desired, Meyer is gone and they're going to tolerate him until those results stop. Ohio State needs to stay ahead of the curve. I'm sure plenty of programs would love to have Ryan Day and he'll land quite softly.

At least 50-50 odds Michigan has a different coach a month from now though, and the NCAA investigation is still looming. Day's position could improve considerably without Ohio State doing a thing.

Either way, I have a hard time seeing Ohio State firing Day unless they know for sure they can get someone better. Maybe they make DeBoer a lights-out offer to leave Washington or something, or there's an NFL guy who'd be interested. But it's not like there's an obvious candidate.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

At least 50-50 odds Michigan has a different coach a month from now though, and the NCAA investigation is still looming. Day's position could improve considerably without Ohio State doing a thing.

Either way, I have a hard time seeing Ohio State firing Day unless they know for sure they can get someone better. Maybe they make DeBoer a lights-out offer to leave Washington or something, or there's an NFL guy who'd be interested. But it's not like there's an obvious candidate.

We'll see. To this point, they've been steadfast in standing in the faces of the Big Ten, NCAA and general public that he and they are the victims. It's Michigan. They're cunts.

As for Day, the pressure has to be mounting because 11-2 seasons were not the norm for the two decades that came before him. If the angst begins to show itself in a drop in revenue, he's done. He's lost 8 games already. Meyer lost 9 during his tenure. Hell, Tressel lost 22 games and finished outside of the top ten once. It's the kind of thing that spoils fan bases, alumni, boards and once they get used to it the mind begins to become irrational. They don't want to go back to John Cooper because, and some of the people's feelings about Florida State due to 1993 prove this, fan bases live in the past be it good or bad.

He recruits well, has good assistants, has the brand and financial backing of a big program. He just has to stop losing his mind against Michigan. Regardless of who is coach.

 

[OhioIrish]

At least 50-50 odds Michigan has a different coach a month from now though, and the NCAA investigation is still looming. Day's position could improve considerably without Ohio State doing a thing.

Either way, I have a hard time seeing Ohio State firing Day unless they know for sure they can get someone better. Maybe they make DeBoer a lights-out offer to leave Washington or something, or there's an NFL guy who'd be interested. But it's not like there's an obvious candidate.

This, exactly. Outside of a no-brainer, grand-slam hire, OSU doesn’t actually need to find a replacement coach. Day’s tenure has coincided with Michigan’s ascendency — bad luck for Day. But, the OSU administration aren’t idiots, they know they have a guy that can recruit and win. Plus, they see what we see, the Michigan train is likely to derail in the very near future.

 

[dublinirish]

Will Howard to pOSU looking likely


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[irish2104]

Much much better than SC… maybe SC going with the guy from the bowl game??

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

This, exactly. Outside of a no-brainer, grand-slam hire, OSU doesn’t actually need to find a replacement coach. Day’s tenure has coincided with Michigan’s ascendency — bad luck for Day. But, the OSU administration aren’t idiots, they know they have a guy that can recruit and win. Plus, they see what we see, the Michigan train is likely to derail in the very near future.

I think they should also take into account how close the margins were with Meyer and Harbaugh along with the margins now with Day and Harbaugh. You're looking a few games that came down to the wire and less than a handful of plays that ultimately determined the outcome of many of them. Plus you have the advantage that Harbaugh had on Day in Stalions.

At Ohio State, you have to beat Michigan. Two wins against Notre Dame have a very small fraction of the value beating Michigan does, which I think states the obvious.

Patience in not a virtue in this business, and the more he continues to lose to Michigan and come up empty without some kind of trophy the more difficult it's going to be for him. He could well leave on his own terms. If I'm plucking an OC to the NFL, I'm taking Ryan Day before Dan Mullen or someone like him very easily without thinking twice.

 

[OhioIrish]

I think they should also take into account how close the margins were with Meyer and Harbaugh along with the margins now with Day and Harbaugh. You're looking a few games that came down to the wire and less than a handful of plays that ultimately determined the outcome of many of them. Plus you have the advantage that Harbaugh had on Day in Stalions.

At Ohio State, you have to beat Michigan. Two wins against Notre Dame have a very small fraction of the value beating Michigan does, which I think states the obvious.

Patience in not a virtue in this business, and the more he continues to lose to Michigan and come up empty without some kind of trophy the more difficult it's going to be for him. He could well leave on his own terms. If I'm plucking an OC to the NFL, I'm taking Ryan Day before Dan Mullen or someone like him very easily without thinking twice.

I could definitely see Day tiring of the OSU fanbase and moving to greener pastures. I doubt very much he would leave for a coordinator position, but he is prime for plucking for a HC position — especially at a desperate southern program, a la A&M with Jimbo. Perhaps a year from now Tennessee, LSU, or Florida back up the truck for him. If I’m Day, I think hard about a new opportunity. OSU fans are historically delusional, entitled, and obnoxious — a coach like Day doesn’t need to put up with it, imo.

 

[stlnd01]

We'll see. To this point, they've been steadfast in standing in the faces of the Big Ten, NCAA and general public that he and they are the victims. It's Michigan. They're cunts.

As for Day, the pressure has to be mounting because 11-2 seasons were not the norm for the two decades that came before him. If the angst begins to show itself in a drop in revenue, he's done. He's lost 8 games already. Meyer lost 9 during his tenure. Hell, Tressel lost 22 games and finished outside of the top ten once. It's the kind of thing that spoils fan bases, alumni, boards and once they get used to it the mind begins to become irrational. They don't want to go back to John Cooper because, and some of the people's feelings about Florida State due to 1993 prove this, fan bases live in the past be it good or bad.

He recruits well, has good assistants, has the brand and financial backing of a big program. He just has to stop losing his mind against Michigan. Regardless of who is coach.

Clearly. And I don't think a parting of ways would be Michigan's decision. But if Harbaugh's heart was in staying he'd have signed the extension they've been throwing at him. And he's got to know how much talent is walking out the door after this season. Meantime there is the possibility of NCAA sanctions so severe that him staying on as head coach is untenable.

As for Day, agree that next year's a big one for him. If he doesn't win the Big Ten and advance at least a round or two in the playoffs, all involved will be restless. And to Ohio's point maybe someone else makes him an offer that's ultimately better for all involved.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Clearly. And I don't think a parting of ways would be Michigan's decision. But if Harbaugh's heart was in staying he'd have signed the extension they've been throwing at him. And he's got to know how much talent is walking out the door after this season. Meantime there is the possibility of NCAA sanctions so severe that him staying on as head coach is untenable.

As for Day, agree that next year's a big one for him. If he doesn't win the Big Ten and advance at least a round or two in the playoffs, all involved will be restless. And to Ohio's point maybe someone else makes him an offer that's ultimately better for all involved.

There is going to be some NFL owner with too much money and time but not nearly enough sense that will hire Harbaugh and give him total control of the football team. A Super Bowl will need to be won before he wears out his welcome among everyone else in the organization, which is his way.

Ryan Day could go 11-1 again but now has the benefit of probably getting the chance to win another game or two in a 12 team playoff. He can recruit and isn't losing to anyone he isn't supposed to yet. If he gets tripped up by Illinois or something stupid like that, those types of losses snowball into something bad fast.

Really don't carry water for either and wish them losses.

 

[stpeteirish]

If Will Howard paid any attention to their Bowl games he should choose Ohio St over USC. Miller Moss was lights out and the buckeye QBs were dreadful. Looks like Cam Ward and DJU are definitly heading elsewhere so its Howard or bust for Ohio St.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

College football isn't the NFL. Rivalry games matter, recruiting battles matter, the coaches personality matters....

Yet so many of them are being taken away now due to realignment. I mean, UCLA and USC in the context of the Big Ten and TAMU vs Texas is back but in the context of the SEC. FSU vs Miami isn't near what it was 20 years ago or in the 80s and 90s.

I think depending on your division in the NFL the rivalries matter to a degree. AFC North, NFC North, NFC East there is still some spitfire to some of those matchups. Plus you play twice a year rather than once.

I feel like a lot of it has to do with scheduling on both fronts. Chiefs and Bengals is cool for example. ND and Clemson has been intriguing.

 

[ColinKSU]

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Look, I think we can all agree that this would be very funny.

 

[AKRowdy]

Some reading online and listening to The Fan here in Columbus, I may be wrong but it seems like they may not have the money to compete in the portal. Don’t know if this is true or not but it would seem to go along with some of their players transferring out/ not able to get some players to come in.

 

[greyhammer90]

Some reading online and listening to The Fan here in Columbus, I may be wrong but it seems like they may not have the money to compete in the portal. Don’t know if this is true or not but it would seem to go along with some of their players transferring out/ not able to get some players to come in.

If OSU doesn't have the money to compete then there's only 3 or 4 schools who can.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Some reading online and listening to The Fan here in Columbus, I may be wrong but it seems like they may not have the money to compete in the portal. Don’t know if this is true or not but it would seem to go along with some of their players transferring out/ not able to get some players to come in.

I have read a few articles where they implied the war chest isn’t filled like other programs.


IMO it’s brilliant marketing on their part to present an illusion that the pockets are empty in order to get them filled by gullible imbeciles.

Right now is a very emotional time for that fanbase, and it shouldn’t be too hard to twist some wealthy donors arms into thinking that they need some serious money to compete.

They are squarely staring down the barrel of their most hated rival supplanting them as the undisputed alpha dog of the conference. That has to stoke some irrational spending.


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[Pops Freshenmeyer]

If OSU doesn't have the money to compete then there's only 3 or 4 schools who can.

I don’t know if it’s true but if so, that has to be discontent with Ryan Day.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Ohio State player gets a little too candid as podcast interview gets quietly deleted

Ohio State Buckeyes offensive lineman Carson Hinzman appears to have gotten a little too candid in a recent podcast interview.

awfulannouncing.com

TLDR:

OL for OSU goes off the script during a podcast. Highlights include:

-they didn’t practice at all for the Cotton Bowl, and instead did “light workouts”
-OSU doesn’t pay players anything remotely
close to other schools, OL don’t get anything
-Urban’s culture and S&C was superior in every way to Day’s culture (guy wasn’t on any Urban teams, so guess he was just going with hearsay)


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[IRISHDODGER]

Ohio State player gets a little too candid as podcast interview gets quietly deleted

Ohio State Buckeyes offensive lineman Carson Hinzman appears to have gotten a little too candid in a recent podcast interview.

awfulannouncing.com

TLDR:

OL for OSU goes off the script during a podcast. Highlights include:

-they didn’t practice at all for the Cotton Bowl, and instead did “light workouts”
-OSU doesn’t pay players anything remotely
close to other schools, OL don’t get anything
-Urban’s culture and S&C was superior in every way to Day’s culture (guy wasn’t on any Urban teams, so guess he was just going with hearsay)


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Isn’t Mickey Marotti still the S&C coach?