All Things pOSU

[GATTACA!]

You have to feel for OSU - they've been completely blindsided. I mean, who would have guessed this would happen to an Urban led program?

I mean honestly how could they have known?

 

[Luckylucci]

You have to feel for OSU - they've been completely blindsided. I mean, who would have guessed this would happen to an Urban led program?

Right, one of the reasons I've become convinced he's gone is now media is talking about his players 31 arrests while at Florida. And I know it was bad, but only crap that is terrible. Then this happens. He clearly looks like a dude that doesn't give a crap about anything other than winning. Mix in the MeToo movement and it's game over.

 

[dublinirish]

Right, one of the reasons I've become convinced he's gone is now media is talking about his players 31 arrests while at Florida. And I know it was bad, but only crap that is terrible. Then this happens. He clearly looks like a dude that doesn't give a crap about anything other than winning. Mix in the MeToo movement and it's game over.

Plus the Wrestling Scandal already going on at OSU. They shouldn't be tolerating this.

 

[NDBoiler]

Can’t wait to see how all the classy Buckeye fans respond to this.

 

[IrishInFl]

Can’t wait to see how all the classy Buckeye fans respond to this.

Radio silence from my neighbor that is a huge OSU fan.

 

[beryirish]

https://247sports.com/Article/A-recent-history-of-college-coaches-placed-on-paid-administrative-leave-120300700/

History is not on Urban's side for coming back.

 

[Irish#1]

For those that don't know, Dan Dakich is close friends with Meyer. I'm listening to him right now. He said Meyer texted him last night and said he "did it by the book". Dakich is avoiding really discussing the issue. Most of his responses are "I don't know". He's taking the approach that he is going to wait for it to play out. He typically will play the "what if" scenarios, but he's avoiding playing that game.

What is really sad, is Dakich is saying the real issue is Smith's in-laws. They knew about this and didn't do anything because they didn't want him fired. No Dan, the real issue is the abuse and Meyer not doing anything about it and lying.

 

[Woneone]

For those that don't know, Dan Dakich is close friends with Meyer. I'm listening to him right now. He said Meyer texted him last night and said he "did it by the book". Dakich is avoiding really discussing the issue. Most of his responses are "I don't know". He's taking the approach that he is going to wait for it to play out. He typically will play the "what if" scenarios, but he's avoiding playing that game.

If he did it by the book, that would insinuate that he did report it to the proper officials. Maybe he lied to reporters so not to air a private matter to the public (I certainly don’t believe this). In that case, it would show some pretty gross negligence on Ohio states part not following up with the actual victim of the crime.

This is going to be a pretty epic couple of days here in Ohio.

 

[Irish#1]

Can’t wait to see how all the classy Buckeye fans respond to this.

ScUM message boards must be on overload rejoicing.

 

[Irish YJ]

And in other coaching scandal news, Briles just got a job coaching again.....

In Italy.

 

[dublinirish]

ScUM message boards must be on overload rejoicing.

Detroit sports radio this morning was pretty joyful lol

 

[Rogue219]

If he did it by the book, that would insinuate that he did report it to the proper officials. Maybe he lied to reporters so not to air a private matter to the public (I certainly don’t believe this). In that case, it would show some pretty gross negligence on Ohio states part not following up with the actual victim of the crime.

This is going to be a pretty epic couple of days here in Ohio.

Why put him on leave though if he reported it?

Shelley should have reported it regardless. She's on the faculty too.

 

[ACamp1900]

ScUM message boards must be on overload rejoicing.

We are now all that can stop complete insanity.... lol

 

[DONTH8]

Why put him on leave though if he reported it?

Shelley should have reported it regardless. She's on the faculty too.

The tough thing is Mrs Smith isn't a student so Title IX isn't in affect. There is no law binding either of them down in that regard. This really is a morality/ethics case, and a good one at that. This is going to be used as an example for years to come in classes all over the country because it's not a law binding situation. It's a judgment call by the individuals involved, and it's up to people to decide what they did was right/wrong.

No where in the texts did Mrs Smith ask Shelley to tell urban, or that she wanted help. Shelley can be seen as just a friend reaching out to support and that's it. There are no laws saying she has to report it to school officials.

Thay being said, I think we all agree that she should and if she didn't then that's wrong. But no law condemning her.

 

[Irish#1]

If he did it by the book, that would insinuate that he did report it to the proper officials. Maybe he lied to reporters so not to air a private matter to the public (I certainly don’t believe this). In that case, it would show some pretty gross negligence on Ohio states part not following up with the actual victim of the crime.

This is going to be a pretty epic couple of days here in Ohio.

Dakich just said "By the book" would mean he told the AD. He insinuated that by telling the AD he should be off the hook. If I remember correctly didn't some at PSU lost their jobs, because after they reported it and saw nothing had been done they didn't follow up or take it up to a higher level?

Now Dakich is going off on Kelly not being fired because of Declan Sullivan and the girl who committed suicide.

 

[snoopdog]

The tough thing is Mrs Smith isn't a student so Title IX isn't in affect. There is no law binding either of them down in that regard. This really is a morality/ethics case, and a good one at that. This is going to be used as an example for years to come in classes all over the country because it's not a law binding situation. It's a judgment call by the individuals involved, and it's up to people to decide what they did was right/wrong.

No where in the texts did Mrs Smith ask Shelley to tell urban, or that she wanted help. Shelley can be seen as just a friend reaching out to support and that's it. There are no laws saying she has to report it to school officials.

Thay being said, I think we all agree that she should and if she didn't then that's wrong. But no law condemning her.

The boys that Sandusky abused weren't students either, yet three people went to jail for failure to report it. Is wife beating one of those acceptable offenses

And are you claiming Zac's ex has no Civil claim against the Meyers

 

[ab2cmiller]

Dakich just said "By the book" would mean he told the AD. He insinuated that by telling the AD he should be off the hook. If I remember correctly didn't some at PSU lost their jobs, because after they reported it and saw nothing had been done they didn't follow up or take it up to a higher level?

Based upon UM's comments about not knowing anything about it back in 2015 means that "by the book" is related to only what happened this past June. He "found out about it" in June sometime, immediately reported it, they fired Smith. Bada Bing Bada Boom ----- "by the book".

 

[DONTH8]

The boys that Sandusky abused weren't students either, yet three people went to jail for failure to report it. Is wife beating one of those acceptable offenses

And are you claiming Zac's ex has no Civil claim against the Meyers

The Sandusky individuals were setenced with child endangerment claims. Nothing to do with Title IX. People say she had to say something tying it in to Title IX as she was a facult member in the nursing department which isn't true becuase her "friend" is not a student.

And I'm not saying that Mrs Smith doesn't have civil claim or not. And I'm not a lawyer and won't pretend to be. But the texts I don't think would condemn either of them other than the judgment of others and themselves. And probably cost Urban his job.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Dakich just said "By the book" would mean he told the AD. He insinuated that by telling the AD he should be off the hook. If I remember correctly didn't some at PSU lost their jobs, because after they reported it and saw nothing had been done they didn't follow up or take it up to a higher level?

Now Dakich is going off on Kelly not being fired because of Declan Sullivan or the girl who committed suicide.

Lmfao.

Because those are the same things.

OK, Dan.

Dan is everyone's drunk uncle.

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[T Town Tommy]

The only two true "investigations" by tOSU at this point is:

1) can they somehow show Urbie violated the conditions of his contract so they can fire him for cause.
2) who are their legitimite options for who the next HC will be

The rest in window dressing and public pandering.

 

[gkIrish]

Now Dakich is going off on Kelly not being fired because of Declan Sullivan or the girl who committed suicide.

FFS Dakich.

 

[gkIrish]

The only two true "investigations" by tOSU at this point is:

1) can they somehow show Urbie violated the conditions of his contract so they can fire him for cause.
2) who are their legitimite options for who the next HC will be

The rest in window dressing and public pandering.

1) Likely yes but not without a long legal battle. There will likely be a buyout of some sort tied to a resignation rather than outright firing.

 

[T Town Tommy]

1) Likely yes but not without a long legal battle. There will likely be a buyout of some sort tied to a resignation rather than outright firing.

That's where I think it will end up. tOSU does the "right" thing and Urbie saves a little face to live another day a few years from now.

 

[dublinirish]

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[IrishLax]

Lmfao.

Because those are the same things.

OK, Dan.

Dan is everyone's drunk uncle.

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lol... I mean where are the parallels on any levle?

One was a workplace accident governed by OSHA, the other is someone knowingly employing a wife beater and lying about what he knew.

One was a workplace accident governed by OSHA, the other was a criminal complaint that was being investigated by the cops when the accuser overdosed.

But #hottakers gonna #hottake

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

The tough thing is Mrs Smith isn't a student so Title IX isn't in affect. There is no law binding either of them down in that regard. This really is a morality/ethics case, and a good one at that. This is going to be used as an example for years to come in classes all over the country because it's not a law binding situation. It's a judgment call by the individuals involved, and it's up to people to decide what they did was right/wrong.

No where in the texts did Mrs Smith ask Shelley to tell urban, or that she wanted help. Shelley can be seen as just a friend reaching out to support and that's it. There are no laws saying she has to report it to school officials.

Thay being said, I think we all agree that she should and if she didn't then that's wrong. But no law condemning her.

What is your source for this claim? Among other things, Title IX requires schools to adopt discrimination and sexual misconduct policies. Here is Ohio State's sexual misconduct policy:

https://hr.osu.edu/wp-content/uploads/policy115.pdf

Relationship Violence is in the scope of the Sexual Misconduct Policy. The policy applies to:

Faculty, staff, students, student employees, graduate associates, appointees, volunteers, supplier/contractor, and visitors.

The duty to report portion is on page 6 and basically includes anybody who is in a supervisory position over faculty or staff or students and doesn't otherwise have a conflicting obligation of confidentiality.

 

[Sea Turtle]

It's on Drudge now. Found this there:

https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/08/02/an-unfair-game-urban-meyer-a-history-of-abuse/

 

[#1rish]

It's on Drudge now. Found this there:

https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/08/02/an-unfair-game-urban-meyer-a-history-of-abuse/

Surprising, but also not surprising. This coupled with the assault stuff is going to end Urban IMO.

 

[DONTH8]

What is your source for this claim? Among other things, Title IX requires schools to adopt discrimination and sexual misconduct policies. Here is Ohio State's sexual misconduct policy:

https://hr.osu.edu/wp-content/uploads/policy115.pdf

Relationship Violence is in the scope of the Sexual Misconduct Policy. The policy applies to:



The duty to report portion is on page 6 and basically includes anybody who is in a supervisory position over faculty or staff or students and doesn't otherwise have a conflicting obligation of confidentiality.

This is actually really interesting then if she is seen as a part of staff. Idk the legality of that though. On pg 7 though it talks about individuals who don't need to report and in there it does mention factuly of the medical department unless the case is non-confidential which this case may fit that circumstance. I still would say we need to be on the side of caution before saying that she HAD to, by law, tell someone.

 

[IrishLax]

Surprising, but also not surprising. This coupled with the assault stuff is going to end Urban IMO.

I'm pretty sure you could find similar stories at every University, including Notre Dame. Maybe not that bad, but Harry Hiestand was a hard coach and out-of-context a lot of his stuff could absolutely be spun as "verbal abuse".