All Things Alabama

[koonja]

In case any of the ESPN lovers are looking for some objectivity on the ND defense:

Irish 'D' has done wonders for Kelly in 2012 - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN

 

[007depthchart]

Defense wins championships and both teams are at the top. Will be a struggle to move the ball on both sides with limited explosive plays as our defenses keep everything in front of them. I see a great deal of 3-and-outs by both teams with horrible 3rd down conversion rates. O-Coordinators will need to come out with an entirely different plan from previous games this year and break all tendencies. Special Teams will play a HUGE roll in this game and believe Bama has a very slight edge there. That coupled with, everyone has an opinion on it, our big game experience will push Bama to victory. Maybe something like 17-13 with everyone on the edge of their seat until the final play.

ND is very good on defense, but I don't see a bunch of 3 and outs on Bama's offense. They are going to be too healthy, and too talented. ND may slow them down in red area but I bet Bama gets 400 to 500 yds. I personally think Bama will get their points but not go crazy as ND will bend but not break on some possessions, but ND qb is going to have to play a great game for ND to keep up. There will be open wideouts and he has to find them and complete a high percent of them. If that happens it can be a very close game. That's my take.

 

[chicago51]

ND is very good on defense, but I don't see a bunch of 3 and outs on Bama's offense. They are going to be too healthy, and too talented. ND may slow them down in red area but I bet Bama gets 400 to 500 yds. I personally think Bama will get their points but not go crazy as ND will bend but not break on some possessions, but ND qb is going to have to play a great game for ND to keep up. There will be open wideouts and he has to find them and complete a high percent of them. If that happens it can be a very close game. That's my take.

ND is the best defense bama has faced. ND is number 1 in scoring defense and 2nd in defensive efficency in the country (Florida is number 1) FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2012 FEI COLLEGE FOOTBALL RATINGS, DEFENSE these stats were pointed out to me by WiskeyJack.

Best defense bama has faced is LSU at # 12 and they held them 331 yards and 21 points. If LSU can do that, why can't ND hold them to say 300 total yards and 17 points? Could bama go off for 35, 34, 27 points? Sure they could but ND is also very capable of holding them down.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

In case any of the ESPN lovers are looking for some objectivity on the ND defense:

Irish 'D' has done wonders for Kelly in 2012 - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN

WOW. Haven't allowed a TD outside of the redzone in the last 628 plays. Next closest is Vandy at 387. I have not seen that stat.

 

[007depthchart]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

 

[007depthchart]

And Bama faces a better D than ND everyday in practice.

 

[micks60]

And Bama faces a better D than ND everyday in practice.

U my friend...are sounding dumber by the minute

 

[chicago51]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

Everybody is juiced to play ND we have had to deal with that all year long. Bama is great they more score than 21 points but the reality is that Notre Dame is the best defense bama has faced this year.

You talk about guys getting better. ND players are getting better. We had 3 first year starters in defensive backfield because injuries. Last game we played we held the best WR in college football to half of his average in receiving yards.

The same Texas A&M team that gave up 57 points to Louisania Tech (lol) held you guys 24 points. If want to argue the LSU more talented defense thing fine, I disagree but okay. You can't possibly think A&M as a better defense than Notre Dame.

And Bama faces a better D than ND everyday in practice.

Now you are just trolling.

 

[ARALOU]

Winning a night game in Baton Rouge is no easy task. In any year by any team. However, LSU defense isnt what it was last year. They gave up 20 something points to Towson St. I had LSU D on a fantasy team and even though they created turnovers and made big plays they gave up losts of points. It should be a good game if both play up to their potential. Lots of yalent on both teams. Coaches and their staff are outstanding. Bama may have a slight advantage at certain positions because of depth, but the Irish are deeper than most folks think.

 

[chicago51]

Winning a night game in Baton Rouge is no easy task. In any year by any team. However, LSU defense isnt what it was last year. They gave up 20 something points to Towson St. I had LSU D on a fantasy team and even though they created turnovers and made big plays they gave up losts of points. It should be a good game if both play up to their potential. Lots of yalent on both teams. Coaches and their staff are outstanding. Bama may have a slight advantage at certain positions because of depth, but the Irish are deeper than most folks think.

Exactly Bama is great. Heck they very well might win. Don't tell me their scout team is better than ND like that one guy just did.

 

[ARALOU]

Exactly Bama is great. Heck they very well might win. Don't tell me their scout team is better than ND like that one guy just did.

Wouldn't dream of it. As a matter of fact I will not be convinced that Bama is better until after the game is played and Bama wins. Until then, I like the Irish and I think the Irish wins.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better.

The Football Outsiders stats linked above are opponent-adjusted. So yes, quality of competition is explicitly incorporated.

Injuries may make the stats for an individual game misleading, but not a whole season's worth. Virtually every team is better at the end of the year than at the beginning, so it's hardly worth mentioning.

LSU is more talented on defense than ND...

There's no colorable argument for LSU > ND on defense. And what does "more talented" even mean? USC is more talented than virtually every team they faced, but they're undisciplined and poorly coached, so they still lost 5 games.

 

[ARALOU]

Good points Whiskey.

 

[Bishop2b5]

And what does "more talented" even mean? USC is more talented than virtually every team they faced, but they're undisciplined and poorly coached, so they still lost 5 games.

Bingo! Lots of teams have talent. USC and Texas have as much as anyone, yet look at the results. Good ingredients don't always make a better pizza if the cook can't cook.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

Ridiculous... Your posts get worse everyday. Go away.

 

[007depthchart]

Exactly Bama is great. Heck they very well might win. Don't tell me their scout team is better than ND like that one guy just did.

Dude I think most people know I am talking about them going against 1st team Bama defense, not the scout team. And statistically, Bama is number one defense for total yardage, so no I'm not trolling mod who sent me message. I'm done here.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Dude I think most people know I am talking about them going against 1st team Bama defense, not the scout team. And statistically, Bama is number one defense for total yardage, so no I'm not trolling mod who sent me message. I'm done here.

You can't just go blabbering about nonsense in your posts. You may have had some colorable argument in your head when you typed it. Bring facts or argument. If you do not write it, we do not know you know it.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I'm done here.

 

[chicago51]

Dude I think most people know I am talking about them going against 1st team Bama defense, not the scout team. And statistically, Bama is number one defense for total yardage, so no I'm not trolling mod who sent me message. I'm done here.

Bama ran up their defensive stats against Western Carolina, Western Kentucky, and Florida Atlantic. Not to mention Auburn, and Arkansas (when they were in complete caos just off losing to UL Monroe and losing Tyler Wilson).

Notre Dame beat 10 bowl eligible teams; But ya know we didn't lose to A&M at home so we most not be very good.

 

[IrishLax]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

The bolded sentence is why I've been staying out of this thread ever since these wonderful Alabama fans happened to stop by. It seems only 1 out of every 5 has any idea what they're talking about.

This guy is literally saying that the LSU team which allowed as many touchdowns to freaking TOWSON & OLE MISS as Notre Dame has allowed in the entire season of 12 games is better than ND. Let me say that again...

Towson & Ole Miss scored as many TDs as ALL OF NOTRE DAME'S OPPONENTS. Yet he states it as a simple "fact" that LSU is better than ND.

Couple this with all of the "Notre Dame has no depth" people who conveniently ignore that we've used ~6-7 man rotation all year on the DL and it just makes your head spin. Don't get me wrong, there are a couple guys on here who seem like they've actually ever watched a football game outside of the SEC, but the majority seem to be total mouth breathers.

 

[Chamellion]

https://twitter.com/ChaseGoodbread/status/284408514997276673

Barrett Jones not practicing fully yet. He may be great, but you still need to tune up before the game. He'll have his hands full with Nix.

 

[koonja]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

 

[phork]

Think its time.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This guy is literally saying that the LSU team which allowed as many touchdowns to freaking TOWSON & OLE MISS as Notre Dame has allowed in the entire season of 12 games is better than ND. Let me say that again...

Towson & Ole Miss scored as many TDs as ALL OF NOTRE DAME'S OPPONENTS. Yet he states it as a simple "fact" that LSU is better than ND.

And yet he doesn't understand why he comes off as a troll.

Couple this with all of the "Notre Dame has no depth" people who conveniently ignore that we've used ~6-7 man rotation all year on the DL and it just makes your head spin. Don't get me wrong, there are a couple guys on here who seem like they've actually ever watched a football game outside of the SEC, but the majority seem to be total mouth breathers.

Namely Bishop2b5 and gcashwell. All others are on a very short leash.

 

[ARALOU]

I probably haven't watched as many SEC games as Notre Dame games. I wil admit I thought Pitt had them. They showed great resolve coming back to tie it. They obviously had luck on both ends of the spectrum in the OT. Irish have played great at times. They are undefeated. Can you imagine the raucous if OSU were eligible and playing ND in the NC? LOL.

I did watch Bama vs ATM, Bama vs LSU. Both good games. I was surprised that the Aggies won since nobody in the SEC gave them a chance. to compete in the SEC. Bama showed a ton of heart coming back in the LSU game. Impressive win. The Georgia win was impressive. I don't consider Bama's season any more impressive than Notre Dame's. Heck Ole Miss got rolled up by Texas, now that I think of it.

One thing for sure, we will know come January 7th.

 

[Grahambo]

Dude I think most people know I am talking about them going against 1st team Bama defense, not the scout team. And statistically, Bama is number one defense for total yardage, so no I'm not trolling mod who sent me message. I'm done here.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Is that Socrates Johnson???

 

[Irish#1]

First, stats can be misleading, it doesn't take into consideration competition, injuries, teams getting better. LSU is more talented on defense than ND, it was a revenge game for them and they played juiced with night game at Tiger stadium, and Bama played with a passing game with the QB having a severely bruised back, amari cooper with sprained ankle and could barely get past a jog, and two out of the other three wideouts that they played had the same issues. Besides Kevin Norwood, Bama played with 3 other crippled wideouts that wouldn't have been able to get separation on a high school team. I'll bet you $500 Bama scores more than 21 points.

And Bama faces a better D than ND everyday in practice.

Well heck. I guess there's nothing more to say!

 

[BGIF]

And Bama faces a better D than ND everyday in practice.

Saban has his #1 Defense face his #1 Offense everyday in practice for what, calisthenics?

Certainly not for head to head play which you imply. I think you've seen the Junction Boys too many times. I don't think anyone does that in the days of 85 team scholarships. Definitetly not a team that plays a "rugged SEC schedule" (see your own comments about banged up players).

What are you going to say next that Saban has Barrett Jones and Jesse Williams going head to head in Oklahoma drills everyday trying to work through their injuries?

The #1s squads are both running against an opposing scout team to familiarize them with the opposition's style of play.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Saban has his #1 Defense face his #1 Offense everyday in practice for what, calisthenics?

Certainly not for head to head play which you imply. I think you've seen the Junction Boys too many times. I don't think anyone does that in the days of 85 team scholarships. Definitetly not a team that plays a "rugged SEC schedule" (see your own comments about banged up players).

What are you going to say next that Saban has Barrett Jones and Jesse Williams going head to head in Oklahoma drills everyday trying to work through their injuries?

The #1s squads are both running against an opposing scout team to familiarize them with the opposition's style of play.