ACC discussion thread

[Huntr]

He may be a Dorka but he is our Dorka

 

[stlnd01]

All this is is that we’re 55-11 against them since 2014. That’s it. We’re not taking anything from the ACC schools. They just can’t compete with us.

 

[IAIrish]

“They have no skin in the game”

*Loses to Miami costing us the CFP*

That quote and the reality of last season completely contradict one another.
That lack of skin cost ND a shot at a natty and $20M+.

 

[bpob55]

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

ESPN and SEC signed their original market-setting deal in 2008 where each school stood to make ~$15 million per year. Two years later the ACC's deal with ESPN netted them around $13 million per school per year. This is was also during the FSU/Clemson's title winning stretch. There was a ton of belief that the ACC was on an ascending path, just slightly behind the SEC and B1G. I'm sure that was Swarbrick's impression when we signed our deal in 2013. But most ACC schools did what with the money? Because they certainly didn't invest in football (outside of Clemson, FSU and Miami). It's the reason the league is going to die, that our schedule sucks and that Clemson and FSU want out. But sure, say that we're the unwanted house guest. That'll make up for it.

That shows the agreement is working according to plan, to provide late season games and grow our W-L. We didn't sign a historic agreement with the ACC because we thought UNC would be the next USC.

 

[stlnd01]

Can we get an summary?

In all seriousness, as I don't have On3, did anyone elaborate on how, exactly, we are eating their food and fucking their wives? What are we "taking" in this relationship? An occasional slot in in the Champs Sports Bowl? 1/18th of their TV contract? Who cares.

I get how the ACC deal helps fill our schedule. But that should be no skin off the backs of most ACC teams. Because what they get in return is six marquee games a season. Sold-out stadiums, TV inventory that's going to draw eyeballs, and the only reason they had a team with the resume to make the CFP last year.

 

[Irish#1]

In all seriousness, as I don't have On3, did anyone elaborate on how, exactly, we are eating their food and fucking their wives? What are we "taking" in this relationship? An occasional slot in in the Champs Sports Bowl? 1/18th of their TV contract? Who cares.

I get how the ACC deal helps fill our schedule. But that should be no skin of the backs of most ACC teams. Because what they get in return is six marquee games a season. Sold-out stadiums, TV inventory that's going to draw eyeballs, and the only reason they had a team with the resume to make the CFP last year.

The ACC is like that girl who's a 6, but thinks she's a 9 or 10. No convincing otherwise.

 

[IrishLion]

McMurphy is just an ND hater. Stirring the pot for clicks.

The whole article was a chance to let anonymous sources blast ND and call ND cowards…

Then towards the bottom he buries the big hitter: “…but the ACC needs ND more than ND needs the ACC” and proceeds to just ignore what he just said to try and insult ND some more lol

 

[IrishLion]

(also I used an archive website to bypass the paywall so I hope he’s not making money on my click)

 

[Ndaccountant]

In all seriousness, as I don't have On3, did anyone elaborate on how, exactly, we are eating their food and fucking their wives? What are we "taking" in this relationship? An occasional slot in in the Champs Sports Bowl? 1/18th of their TV contract? Who cares.

I get how the ACC deal helps fill our schedule. But that should be no skin off the backs of most ACC teams. Because what they get in return is six marquee games a season. Sold-out stadiums, TV inventory that's going to draw eyeballs, and the only reason they had a team with the resume to make the CFP last year.

It is a school versus conference thing. Each individual school likely doesnt feel the benefit of playing ND the way the conference does overall. Individual ADs and coaches wouldnt have all the details the commissioner does. So they see a likely L each time they play, which lessens the ability of a conference as a whole to get multiple teams in. If I were in their shows, I would rather have a W versus ECU with a half filled stadium than a multi-score loss in a sold out venue.

 

[KPENN]

 

[Huntr]

Fuck ALLLLLL the way off, Jim

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Fuck ALLLLLL the way off, Jim

What a spineless little turd.

 

[Huntr]

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

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Gross. ACC and CW are perfect for each other.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Gross. ACC and CW are perfect for each other.

Does CW have the frog as their mascot/logo?

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Does CW have the frog as their mascot/logo?

No they're a serious network now.

 

[DCDomer]

Anyone know when ACC schools typically announce kickoff times? ND announcing home game times was a tease - I want to know when that UNC game kicks off.

 

[stlnd01]

Anyone know when ACC schools typically announce kickoff times? ND announcing home game times was a tease - I want to know when that UNC game kicks off.

A lot of ACC kickoff times aren't announced until the Sunday before the game. Because TV schedules. It's a real pain in the ass if you're trying to plan, like, actually attending.

 

[Dale]

Assume a road ACC non-marquee game is Noon on ABC and if not it’s a surprise

 

[Notre Dame Joe]

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Gross. ACC and CW are perfect for each other.

They need sideline reporters. What are the Gilmore Girls doing nowadays?

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Belichick will be gone at the end of next season. Deion too.

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Belichick will be gone at the end of next season. Deion too.

Agreed. Was hoping for a chance to embarrass Deion, but at least we get a crack at Old Bill before he gets axed.

 

[Dale]

“That’s bulls—,” said one ACC athletic director, perplexed by the notion Notre Dame was using the league.

“Quite frankly, everybody else benefited by going up a slot,” he said. “None of us were harmed and we were probably helped by them not going to Orlando.”

Some athletic directors would like to see Notre Dame add a game to the annual five-game requirement. The ACC’s public lobbying for Miami to make the CFP led to Notre Dame AD Pete Bevacqua’s comment last December that “permanent damage” had been done to the relationship, which upset league membership.

At ACC meetings, Bevacqua sat in on discussions with other athletic directors but exited the room when the meetings involved football coaches because Notre Dame is not a full member. That fact seems to rankle coaches more than their bosses.

What we heard at ACC meetings: Tiebreakers, the Amazon-Duke deal and Notre Dame

Anti-expansion arguments didn’t seem to land with ACC coaches or administrators, including commissioner Jim Phillips.

www.nytimes.com

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

This is not the ACC but this is some Big 10 saltiness

 

[Blazers46]

This is not the ACC but this is some Big 10 saltiness

He’s making a better argument for the “prestigious” schools to be independent than teams to stop playing Notre Dame.

 

[stlnd01]

He’s making a better argument for the “prestigious” schools to be independent than teams to stop playing Notre Dame.

Yep. I quit around when he was going on about why should Notre Dame get better treatment than Michigan or Ohio State?
But maybe the question is why shouldn't Michigan and Ohio State demand better treatment, and ditch the freeloaders like Purdue and Rutgers?

 

[NDWarrior]

Who is this clown?

 

[stlnd01]

Who is this clown?

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We seem to have completely broken people's brains (or some shmoe with a podcast realizes that insane takes about us will drive traffic).

But this is ridiculous. Why would we refuse to play Miami and SMU? We also want good home games. And "forcing" neutral site games? It's not our choice when ACC teams decide to move their home games against us to NFL stadiums so they can sell more tickets. But several have done so in recent years.

I actually don't mind us playing the heel a little when we're good, but this college-football-wide echo chamber of moronic takes about Notre Dame is getting tiresome, and eventually people will start to believe it.

 

[Blazers46]

We seem to have completely broken people's brains (or some shmoe with a podcast realizes that insane takes about us will drive traffic).

But this is ridiculous. Why would we refuse to play Miami and SMU? We also want good home games. And "forcing" neutral site games? It's not our choice when ACC teams decide to move their home games against us to NFL stadiums so they can sell more tickets. But several have done so in recent years.

I actually don't mind us playing the heel a little when we're good, but this college-football-wide echo chamber of moronic takes about Notre Dame is getting tiresome, and eventually people will start to believe it.

This is how you know we are good. This is how you know we are back.