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I can't wait until we, as a society, look back on this being a big deal and laugh.
 

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Good for him if true...who cares either way???
 

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Jeter bangs girls....calls a car and has a fruit basket and a signed baseball waiting for them in the car. Pure genius
 

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Sounds like the only people making a big deal about this is the "news" outlet.

"NFL Superstar Aaron Rodgers Implicated In Gay Controversy" makes it sound like he was running a gay prostitution ring out of the team equipment truck, when really the story is no more "juicy" than "Aaron Rodgers might be gay." Outlets like Radar WANT there to be a controversy so they can spend the next two months reporting on all the bigots and homophobes who are outraged by this.
 

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Sounds like the only people making a big deal about this is the "news" outlet.

"NFL Superstar Aaron Rodgers Implicated In Gay Controversy" makes it sound like he was running a gay prostitution ring out of the team equipment truck, when really the story is no more "juicy" than "Aaron Rodgers might be gay." Outlets like Radar WANT there to be a controversy so they can spend the next two months reporting on all the bigots and homophobes who are outraged by this.

Right. They need stories so they can keep pushing their normalization agenda, which has been wildly successful. So much so that even men on football message boards feel the need to chime in and let people know that they are fine with it how open-minded they are.

It seems to me that sexual behavior is either (1) private and, therefore, something that doesn't need to be discussed all the time, or (2) public and, therefore, open to moral scrutiny from different perspectives. If it's private, let' stop talking about it. If it's public, let's stop being so incredibly self-righteous when someone disagrees with us (that cuts both ways).

From the Christian perspective, homosexuality is akin to alcoholism. Many of us love to drink, and often drink too much ourselves. We all know and love certain alcoholics. We also know that they may be good people and that the impulse for them to drink too much is very deep and ingrained. But that doesn't mean that we can't recognize that their behavior crosses a line and has become destructive. We recognize that it is not good for them, no matter how much they are enjoying themselves. Does that mean everyone has the right to butt into every alcoholics life? Of course not, but close friends and family aren't being open-minded and loving by ignoring the issue.

The Bible (and many other religions, including Tibetan Buddhism) says that sexual behavior outside of the context of marriage is similarly destructive both personally and societally. You may disagree with the Christian perspective, but labeling it hateful, bigoted, or narrow-minded is lazy. Similarly, constantly ranting about Christians being anti-science, but then pretending not to understand the natural law arguments about why homosexuality is "unnatural" is disingenuous. From a scientific perspective, those organs have a crystal clear biological purpose.

Slightly OT, I also find it funny how some of us almost seem to use our open-mindedness towards other people's sexual behavior as cover for our own. "I won't judge you for sleeping with men, so don't you judge me for what I do with women." That was pretty apparent with the Jameis Winston story. Lots of posts which basically communicated "I am not going to judge the guy because I liked to ---- crazy chicks in college too." Good for you! The lack of respect towards women makes me somehow doubt that the "live and let live" attitude is really motivated by respect for homosexuals.
 
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Right. They need stories so they can keep pushing their normalization agenda, which has been wildly successful. So much so that even men on football message boards feel the need to chime in and let people know that they are fine with it how open-minded they are.

It seems to me that sexual behavior is either (1) private and, therefore, something that doesn't need to be discussed all the time, or (2) public and, therefore, open to moral scrutiny from different perspectives. If it's private, let' stop talking about it. If it's public, let's stop being so incredibly self-righteous when someone disagrees with us (that cuts both ways).

From the Christian perspective, homosexuality is akin to alcoholism. Many of us love to drink, and often drink too much ourselves. We all know and love certain alcoholics. We also know that they may be good people and that the impulse for them to drink too much is very deep and ingrained. But that doesn't mean that we can't recognize that their behavior crosses a line and has become destructive. We recognize that it is not good for them, no matter how much they are enjoying themselves. Does that mean everyone has the right to butt into every alcoholics life? Of course not, but close friends and family aren't being open-minded and loving by ignoring the issue.

The Bible (and many other religions, including Tibetan Buddhism) says that sexual behavior outside of the context of marriage is similarly destructive both personally and societally. You may disagree with the Christian perspective, but labeling it hateful, bigoted, or narrow-minded is lazy. Similarly, constantly ranting about Christians being anti-science, but then pretending not to understand the natural law arguments about why homosexuality is "unnatural" is disingenuous. From a scientific perspective, those organs have a crystal clear biological purpose.

Slightly OT, I also find it funny how some of us almost seem to use our open-mindedness towards other people's sexual behavior as cover for our own. "I won't judge you for sleeping with men, so don't you judge me for what I do with women." That was pretty apparent with the Jameis Winston story. Lots of posts which basically communicated "I am not going to judge the guy because I liked to ---- crazy chicks in college too." Good for you! The lack of respect towards women makes me somehow doubt that the "live and let live" attitude is really motivated by respect for homosexuals.

Some valid points if love was just about sex or vice versa. I've had lots of sex with women I didn't love and loved a lot of people I've never had sex with.
 

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Right. They need stories so they can keep pushing their normalization agenda, which has been wildly successful. So much so that even men on football message boards feel the need to chime in and let people know that they are fine with it how open-minded they are.

It seems to me that sexual behavior is either (1) private and, therefore, something that doesn't need to be discussed all the time, or (2) public and, therefore, open to moral scrutiny from different perspectives. If it's private, let' stop talking about it. If it's public, let's stop being so incredibly self-righteous when someone disagrees with us (that cuts both ways).

From the Christian perspective, homosexuality is akin to alcoholism. Many of us love to drink, and often drink too much ourselves. We all know and love certain alcoholics. We also know that they may be good people and that the impulse for them to drink too much is very deep and ingrained. But that doesn't mean that we can't recognize that their behavior crosses a line and has become destructive. We recognize that it is not good for them, no matter how much they are enjoying themselves. Does that mean everyone has the right to butt into every alcoholics life? Of course not, but close friends and family aren't being open-minded and loving by ignoring the issue.

The Bible (and many other religions, including Tibetan Buddhism) says that sexual behavior outside of the context of marriage is similarly destructive both personally and societally. You may disagree with the Christian perspective, but labeling it hateful, bigoted, or narrow-minded is lazy. Similarly, constantly ranting about Christians being anti-science, but then pretending not to understand the natural law arguments about why homosexuality is "unnatural" is disingenuous. From a scientific perspective, those organs have a crystal clear biological purpose.

Slightly OT, I also find it funny how some of us almost seem to use our open-mindedness towards other people's sexual behavior as cover for our own. "I won't judge you for sleeping with men, so don't you judge me for what I do with women." That was pretty apparent with the Jameis Winston story. Lots of posts which basically communicated "I am not going to judge the guy because I liked to ---- crazy chicks in college too." Good for you! The lack of respect towards women makes me somehow doubt that the "live and let live" attitude is really motivated by respect for homosexuals.
I wish I could re-rep you after your edit.

Some valid points if love was just about sex or vice versa. I've had lots of sex with women I didn't love and loved a lot of people I've never had sex with.
You're talking about me, right?
 

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I'll tell Aaron Rodgers he's pretty every day if it means he's the quarterback for my team. Dude has a few years left in the tank and is a magician.
No doubt he's a great QB, but Barkley isn't wrong about his personality either. Teammates will say they appreciate him helping them win, but most seem to find him difficult to share a locker room with. He's "difficult" as they say. High maintenance. Wears his ego on his sleeve and is needy. Barkley nailed it. A woman in a relationship with him better get used to him having to get more camera time and be the prettiest one in the house.
 

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No doubt he's a great QB, but Barkley isn't wrong about his personality either. Teammates will say they appreciate him helping them win, but most seem to find him difficult to share a locker room with. He's "difficult" as they say. High maintenance. Wears his ego on his sleeve and is needy. Barkley nailed it. A woman in a relationship with him better get used to him having to get more camera time and be the prettiest one in the house.
Oh I can buy that entirely. But I like winning. If he could help me win...I want him on my team.
 

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Amazingly the post to start the Aaron Rodgers thread is that he might be gay. Now he is a pretty girl. The Evolution of message boards, lol
 

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Rogers is great at winning 12 or 13 games but I am no longer surprised when his team suffers a home playof loss.
 

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I think he's a good example of a player who has tons of skill, but is lacking that certain something extra that elevates skill to greatness, a la Montana or Brady. He seems more concerned with his own image or stats or legacy or whatever than he does with elevating his team to greatness. He's just missing that magic that Montana and Brady seemed to have in spades.
 

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Easy for Brady to have "it" in spades when he always had an elite coach and generally had a solid defense
 

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Easy for Brady to have "it" in spades when he always had an elite coach and generally had a solid defense
Brady had a top 10 scoring defense in 19 of 22 seasons. 19 is more than Manning, Rodgers, Brees combined..... A QB having that sort of help is unheard of.
 

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Easy for Brady to have "it" in spades when he always had an elite coach and generally had a solid defense
No doubt the coaching and defense helped Brady, but he and Montana also could bring a team back and/or just will them to win in ways that had little of nothing to do with their team's defense of coaching. Rodgers doesn't seem to have that sort of "it" in his arsenal or character.
 

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Brady had a top 10 scoring defense in 19 of 22 seasons. 19 is more than Manning, Rodgers, Brees combined..... A QB having that sort of help is unheard of.
So is one consistently taking less money so his team could have a better defense. Brady had a higher cap number than Manning one time in all the years they were in the league together. Brees had a higher hit than Brady from 2011-2019. Rogers had a bigger cap number most of the time in that same span.
 

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Brady had a top 10 scoring defense in 19 of 22 seasons. 19 is more than Manning, Rodgers, Brees combined..... A QB having that sort of help is unheard of.
Homeboy won a super bowl scoring like 9 points. Won a second by his defense getting a goal line INT.

I like Tom Brady. But the dude got dealt a great hand.
 
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