'24 MI QB CJ Carr (Notre Dame Signee)

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Bane said:
Book was a gamer and had a lot of heart, but when we were matched up with the elite we were outmanned. No knock against him, but that is just who he was.
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Teams would stack the box and try to force us to pass our way out. They've done that with a lot of our QBs the last 15 years since Clausen. Book was better than most at getting out of it, but he also didn't have a ton of elite receivers around either.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Teams would stack the box and try to force us to pass our way out. They've done that with a lot of our QBs the last 15 years since Clausen. Book was better than most at getting out of it, but he also didn't have a ton of elite receivers around either.
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Every QB we have had that I can remember threw shortish passes a lot at the WRs feet a fair bit. I am touching my wood as I say this but I don’t think our lad has done that once through 4 games.
 
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When he hit that wide open post for the TD this week... the kind of wide open RL didn't see because it was his third, not first read. The pure joy that washed over my stoned for chores brain. I think I remember Coan getting to deeper reads, but Jack Coan was also like 23, right? Played in tens of games? Book was good when plays broke down, but he will never have that talent Carr does.
 
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SportsingHard said:
A lot of people seem to share this opinion, but I've been watching since 1981 (Blair Kiel), and I've never seen anybody at ND like Carr. Montana certainly wasn't at Carr's level in college. I'm too young to have seen Joe Theisman at ND, but he might be the only competition. Clausen and Brady Quinn have been two of the brighter spots, and neither was much good until their third year as a starter.
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To be fair to Quinn he was thrown to the wolves and had shit coaching until Weis arrived.
 
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Book has most of the records at QB just like Kelly does for games won etc. he’s the Brian Kelly of ND QBs just more likeable and loyal. ND normally would never have had a Rees or Book as a starting QB. They were meant to be backups. ND was very good for their careers.
 
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KMac151993 said:
To be fair to Quinn he was thrown to the wolves and had shit coaching until Weis arrived.
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Clausen was also thrown to the wolves, getting his start on a 3-9 Weis team. At least Clausen more or less manned up. I've never seen whinier face/body language than freshman/sophomore Brady Quinn. I know it's tough getting hit repeatedly on dropbacks, but you gotta show a little toughness and leadership, especially when you're in the conversation for most built ND QB of all time.

With all due respect to our current dudes, though, CJ is working with significantly less talent than Jimmy and Brady had at WR/TE, at least in their better years. I'd rate Jimmy as the best pre-Carr ND QB I've seen, but Carr's looks like Jimmy with mobility, leadrship, and likability.
 
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SportsingHard said:
Clausen was also thrown to the wolves, getting his start on a 3-9 Weis team. At least Clausen more or less manned up. I've never seen whinier face/body language than freshman/sophomore Brady Quinn. I know it's tough getting hit repeatedly on dropbacks, but you gotta show a little toughness and leadership, especially when you're in the conversation for most built ND QB of all time.

With all due respect to our current dudes, though, CJ is working with significantly less talent than Jimmy and Brady had at WR/TE, at least in their better years. I'd rate Jimmy as the best pre-Carr ND QB I've seen, but Carr's looks Jimmy with mobility, leadrship, and likability.
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Don't you be blasphemin' the name of Brady Quinn now...
 
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Sounds like he's good at getting in the right protection.

TBH for a young QB that is more important than throwing the ball.. There's a lot of QBs that can spin when they're protected. Hopefully he keeps improving in this aspect of the game
 
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Bane said:
This is where I'm at. I watch guys who have 3-4 years in their programs struggle with shit Carr was doing at Miami. Carr has good footwork, good mechanics, he reads the field and works his progressions, he doesn't get happy feet, can make any throw, throws a catchable ball, has touch and accuracy, etc.

Carr is young and still relatively inexperienced so he'll make mistakes, but he seems to learn from them as he goes along.

Someone knocked Carr for being "2-2," but correct me if my memory fails me as I approach 40 but didn't Carr in his first career start take us from down multiple scores in the 4th to tied and his defense gave up the go ahead field goal and then his next career game engineer a late 4th go ahead touchdown drive where he was once again let down by his defense?
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I was in high school when Jimmy took over and that team was so very bad. But Carr reminds me of young Jimmy. Obviously understands football and the position. Unless he completely stalls out or regresses we are looking at a Heisman candidate next year.
 
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ColinKSU said:
Clausen was *absurd* in his junior season. Really interested to see what Carr’s line looks like at the end of the year.
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Yeah, I know how good he was kinda gets lost in the not reach potential. Hopefully, Carr's Oline doesn't feel like he needs a character lesson.
 
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I look back at the practice and the report I posted on here. I don’t know what happened between then and now, but it needs to be studied.

Carr looked fine and you could see flashes, but no one could’ve predicted this. I would’ve called you a liar if you would’ve told me he’d be top 10 in a bunch of statistical categories. I’m excited to see how he can continue to build off of his great start.
 
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jprue24 said:
This is the Clauson that was promised.
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Clausen would've been a Heisman front runner in '09 with a competent defense. Ironic that in 3/4 games this year, we are having similar issues now that we have Carr absolutely balling.
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Clausen was *absurd* in his junior season. Really interested to see what Carr’s line looks like at the end of the year.
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With a nasty turf toe injury, no less. Clausen's talent was wasted by Weis' defensive ineptitude. We had an offense full of NFL prospects and went .500. Maddening stuff
 
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