'24 CA LB Kyngstonn Viliamu-Asa (Notre Dame Signee)

[IA4irish]

He’s great. I just don’t understand why you’d even play in these exhibitions. These aren’t bowl games. These are big chance for people to get injured as most of the players are early enrollees

 

[FWIrish4]

He’s great. I just don’t understand why you’d even play in these exhibitions. These aren’t bowl games. These are big chance for people to get injured as most of the players are early enrollees

Because people like competing against the best and love playing the game.

I do think it’s a totally different convo for a kid that may have been banged up during the year and just get healthy for college.

 

[benneboy]

He’s great. I just don’t understand why you’d even play in these exhibitions. These aren’t bowl games. These are big chance for people to get injured as most of the players are early enrollees

He looks like the best player on the field when they're on D. Think he's going to play a lot next uear

 

[Rocketman84]

If I extrapolate that it equates to 4.72 at 234 lbs

Not necessarily how that works at 19. He's now in a legit strength & conditioning program at ND. He will naturally put on muscle/weight as well as get progressively faster as long as he is putting on good weight and stays healthy.

 

[Rocketman84]

Check your math... speed increased .03 with gaining 4 lbs... so gaining 15 more pounds would have him increasing that about .11

Exactly, his math was waaaay off! But anybody who has run a 40 before knows it can flunctuate around .02-.04 at any given run. Naturally you get faster after being in a college Strength & Conditioning program, although some do have to adjust to the gains, but eventually everything works itself out.

 

[laughingirish90]

He’s great. I just don’t understand why you’d even play in these exhibitions. These aren’t bowl games. These are big chance for people to get injured as most of the players are early enrollees

this is like getting invited to the MLB all- star game or pro bowl for these kids at the high school level so why wouldn't you not want to play.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Kid could play safety I bet

 

[IrishLax]

this is like getting invited to the MLB all- star game or pro bowl for these kids at the high school level so why wouldn't you not want to play.

Yeah I feel like people forget that HS players are playing to play. It’s love of the game stuff. It wasn’t until very recently and for guys transitioning to professional football that the idea of sitting-for-safety became a thing. Most guys who opt out of bowl games will also tell you off the record (or in some cases on the record) that they regret it but they’re strongly pushed by their agents/advisors to do so… and with good reason (see: Jaylon Smith).

 

[NDohio]

Yeah I feel like people forget that HS players are playing to play. It’s love of the game stuff. It wasn’t until very recently and for guys transitioning to professional football that the idea of sitting-for-safety became a thing. Most guys who opt out of bowl games will also tell you off the record (or in some cases on the record) that they regret it but they’re strongly pushed by their agents/advisors to do so… and with good reason (see: Jaylon Smith).

II mentioned that Bertrand was close to sitting out of the Sun Bowl. Not. because he wanted to, but because his agent was pushing for it.

 

[irishff1014]

II mentioned that Bertrand was close to sitting out of the Sun Bowl. Not. because he wanted to, but because his agent was pushing for it.

And the agents only care for one reason because it could cost them money. That’s it.

 

[fightingirish26]

And the agents only care for one reason because it could cost them money. That’s it.

Correct, though at the same time if you are hiring an agent it's because you want them to maximize your own career earnings, not give heart based advice

 

[BeauBenken]

Correct, though at the same time if you are hiring an agent it's because you want them to maximize your own career earnings, not give heart based advice

But...Jerry Maguire...

 

[jprue24]

And the agents only care for one reason because it could cost them money. That’s it.

I'm sure they have a fiduciary duty, and telling a player to sit out is part of that. They may have info from teams that JD probably isn't going to change their impression of him at the senior bowl....so why risk injury if the positive is negligible?

Correct, though at the same time if you are hiring an agent it's because you want them to maximize your own career earnings, not give heart based advice

This.

 

[dad4aa]

Anyone know how many players have been hurt in bowl games like Jaylon Smith since everyone always uses him as an example?

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Anyone know how many players have been hurt in bowl games like Jaylon Smith since everyone always uses him as an example?

I’ve got to think the number of players hurt to the extent it effects their NFL career is extremely small.

 

[notredomer23]

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MR. COMPLETE LB: TOP247 4-STAR KYNGSTONN VILIAMU-ASA - NOTRE DAME​

At 6-foot-2, 233 pounds, Kyngstonn Viliamu-Asa’s ability to play early downs as a run-game enforcer is not in doubt. But throughout the week, Viliamu-Asa impressed the 247Sports staff with his ability to move in space and stay on the field regardless of down-and-distance scenario. Finding ready-to-play size – especially north of 230 pounds in this more wide-open modern era of football – in an incoming linebacker who can stay on the field in myriad situations is not easy. – Brooks

 

[PutuporShutup]

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Will be really interesting if he forces his way onto the field/starting this year. He just moves much better than Bowen IMO. I don't think you can blitz bowen like Golden wants to and how they used JD.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Will be really interesting if he forces his way onto the field/starting this year. He just moves much better than Bowen IMO. I don't think you can blitz bowen like Golden wants to and how they used JD.

Bowen is faster
But KVA gets there faster

 

[PutuporShutup]

Bowen is faster
But KVA gets there faster

He looked like he was laboring moving around in the bowl game, bowen that is.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

He looked like he was laboring moving around in the bowl game, bowen that is.

Right.
That's my point

 

[PutuporShutup]

Right.
That's my point

guess i got confused by you said he's faster, not sure why that's so direct/factual.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

guess i got confused by you said he's faster, not sure why that's so direct/factual.

Bowen is faster
KVA is faster to a spot

 

[PutuporShutup]

Bowen is faster
KVA is faster to a spot

You're speaking a different language than I know lol

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Speed vs football speed

 

[T-Boone]

I am waiting until after his first season to decide if he is any good.

 

[Irishokie]

He looked like he was laboring moving around in the bowl game, bowen that is.

I think Bowen was coming off an injury then? To your point, I remember watching and it seemed like he was slow to the action.

 

[dublinirish]

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[arrowryan]

It is -7 degrees here in South Bend today

 

[NDBoiler]

Good to see that the SB winter cold doesn’t phase the Cali kid. Kedren on the other hand is all bundled up 😂

 

[irishandy]

SB winter cold not phasing the Cali kid- ND man already??