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For the University there is absolutely a ROI.
More 5 stars= More wins= Mo money,Mo money, Mo money.
Football program alone makes 54-62 Million a year with a horrendous TV contract. Let's give back 5-10 percent a year to NIL to the players that produce demand and move the needle on the product.
Wonder how much more ND makes a year where they won a championship. Has to be worth 10-20 million more in a year. Just spit balling
I want to win too, but that’s a terrible deal for a relatively small private University. The $ from football are still tiny relative to the Academic Mission/endowment; and directly paying for athletes opens you up completely if their is any sort of player misconduct with the rest of the student body.

Somehow Baylor survived what should have been a death blow to the institution under Art Briles, but I think it would certainly be a death blow if the university was paying.
 

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Guessing that BQ is seeing that he has to climb Mount Everest and the other programs just have to walk up some steps and transfer some funds
How about you WATCH the video before assuming it affirms your priors? BQ is agreeing with Pate, who is basically summarizing ND's current position.
 

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I'm fine with signing 20 four stars every year if we can continue to compete for quality transfers. Guys like Brandon Joseph are likely better than signing your average 5 star, even if its a 1-2 year rental.
 

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Here's a plan for you:
  • Make a billion dollars and fund ND's NIL yourself; or
  • Make a presentation to a Swarbrick and the BoF as to why throwing guaranteed millions at high school boys is a can't-lose business proposition.
Once you've accomplished either of those things, you can come back here and rub all our faces in it. Until then, kindly STFU and spare us from your garbage rants.
These aren't rants dude. They are proposed solutions.
Hers a plan for you. spare me your 4 for 40 bullshit.
Money, Money, Money
 

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You sure have strong feelings about Driskell's bottom line.

To be clear, he has a copyright in anything he writes, which can't be reproduced word-for-word without his permission. But his opinions, and recruiting news in general, are completely unprotected, and can be paraphrased by others anywhere on the web with impunity.
Got it . Lol

When this site was a real site people got banned for this.

What a cesspool lies here these days

I am rooting for you and hope things turn around. Best of luck
 
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arahop

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How about you WATCH the video before assuming it affirms your priors? BQ is agreeing with Pate, who is basically summarizing ND's current position.
Which we knew they were behind and running uphill the whole time. You seem angry..at least we have 4 for 40
 

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These aren't rants dude. They are proposed solutions.
Hers a plan for you. spare me your 4 for 40 bullshit.
Money, Money, Money
These are rants, and it's basically the only thing you post about anymore. It's f*cking tiresome.

If you think the 4 for 40 pitch is bullshit, you really just don't understand ND. Go root for another program if you feel that way.
Got it . Lol

When this site was a real site people got banned for this.

What a cesspool lies here these days
I've been here just as long as you have. When someone posts something here that legitimately infringes on Driskell's IP, we delete it.

Your fixation on this issue is bizarre.
 

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These are rants, and it's basically the only thing you post about anymore. It's f*cking tiresome.

If you think the 4 for 40 pitch is bullshit, you really just don't understand ND. Go root for another program if you feel that way.

I've been here just as long as you have. When someone posts something here that legitimately infringes on Driskell's IP, we delete it.

Your fixation on this issue is bizarre.
Thanks. Go Irish
 

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These aren't rants dude. They are proposed solutions.
Hers a plan for you. spare me your 4 for 40 bullshit.
Money, Money, Money
Your proposed solutions are idiotic. Notre Dame Football generates $100 million in revenue. Revenue is different than profit. Of that $100M, I bet their profits are somewhere in the range of $10-15M. You suggested that the university directly uses 25-50% of that money to pay a bunch of teenagers. Not only is it bad optics, it makes no fucking sense given other priorities of the program and AD.

As many have said, if ND wants to compete with other schools dropping bags, the only thing it can do that it hasn’t done is facilitate a booster-run collective. I would personally be in complete favor of this, but can see the other side when you look at the aTm dumpster fire.
 

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Your proposed solutions are idiotic. Notre Dame Football generates $100 million in revenue. Revenue is different than profit. Of that $100M, I bet their profits are somewhere in the range of $10-15M. You suggested that the university directly uses 25-50% of that money to pay a bunch of teenagers. Not only is it bad optics, it makes no fucking sense given other priorities of the program and AD.

As many have said, if ND wants to compete with other schools dropping bags, the only thing it can do that it hasn’t done is facilitate a booster-run collective. I would personally be in complete favor of this, but can see the other side when you look at the aTm dumpster fire.
If you seriously think ND clears $10 million dollars off the football program per year idk what to tell you bud.

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These are rants, and it's basically the only thing you post about anymore. It's f*cking tiresome.

If you think the 4 for 40 pitch is bullshit, you really just don't understand ND. Go root for another program if you feel that way.
You know what's tiresome... Not grasping that 5 stars like Keeley, Moore, Bowen equate to more wins, which brings in more money full stop.
4 for 40 is a pro, just not one for a team that competes for titles. How long does an ND grad have to work for 1-2 mil?
4 for 40 is your excuse to accept and justify why we don't sign these 5 stars. Or sell them to ND.
That's not my view and don't forget that without ND Football the University wouldn't be anywhere close to where it is today.
Academically they don't crack the top 20, but they could be Champions again on the Football program. But go ahead and hide behind that BOT 4 for 40 curtain. I understand Notre Dame just fine. Bunch of Monk Malloys on here don't
 

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If you seriously think ND clears $10 million dollars off the football program per year idk what to tell you bud.

I don’t know what the number is, but it’s not a ridiculous assumption. A bunch of schools operated at a deficit recently. I believe Swarbrick has spoken to it in better detail before and alluded to ND operating closer to even then the past. Yes we are still talking millions, tens of millions even but the implication that it’s much greater is probably more ridiculous than what was put forth.
 

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Your proposed solutions are idiotic. Notre Dame Football generates $100 million in revenue. Revenue is different than profit. Of that $100M, I bet their profits are somewhere in the range of $10-15M. You suggested that the university directly uses 25-50% of that money to pay a bunch of teenagers. Not only is it bad optics, it makes no fucking sense given other priorities of the program and AD.

As many have said, if ND wants to compete with other schools dropping bags, the only thing it can do that it hasn’t done is facilitate a booster-run collective. I would personally be in complete favor of this, but can see the other side when you look at the aTm dumpster fire.
Umm they clear 8-14 mil in home ticket sales alone
Per game
 

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If you seriously think ND clears $10 million dollars off the football program per year idk what to tell you bud.
The Green Bay Packers operate at a 12% margin. Probably double that if you add back player salaries. The most optimistic number I’d say for ND profit is $30M. Even if that’s the case, the argument still stands.
 

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The Green Bay Packers operate at a 12% margin. Probably double that if you add back player salaries. The most optimistic number I’d say for ND profit is $30M. Even if that’s the case, the argument still stands.
The whole argument is moot anyways because the NIL fund wouldn't need to come out of NDs pockets at all. If they came out tomorrow and said they were going to crowdfund a $10 million dollar NIL war-chest to keep Bowen and land stud DE/WR/QB transfers from the portal how fast do you think they'd hit that goal? 24 hours?
 

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The whole argument is moot anyways because the NIL fund wouldn't need to come out of NDs pockets at all. If they came out tomorrow and said they were going to crowdfund a $10 million dollar NIL war-chest to keep Bowen and land stud DE/WR/QB transfers from the portal how fast do you think they'd hit that goal? 24 hours?
It’s funny cause this is true. Maybe take a month.
 

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Your proposed solutions are idiotic. Notre Dame Football generates $100 million in revenue. Revenue is different than profit. Of that $100M, I bet their profits are somewhere in the range of $10-15M. You suggested that the university directly uses 25-50% of that money to pay a bunch of teenagers. Not only is it bad optics, it makes no fucking sense given other priorities of the program and AD.

As many have said, if ND wants to compete with other schools dropping bags, the only thing it can do that it hasn’t done is facilitate a booster-run collective. I would personally be in complete favor of this, but can see the other side when you look at the aTm dumpster fire.
I said 5-10 percent not million. Bad optics? You against Capitalism or do you not believe that the NCAA is the farm system to the NFL

 

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The whole argument is moot anyways because the NIL fund wouldn't need to come out of NDs pockets at all. If they came out tomorrow and said they were going to crowdfund a $10 million dollar NIL war-chest to keep Bowen and land stud DE/WR/QB transfers from the portal how fast do you think they'd hit that goal? 24 hours?
I completely agree - just making the point that the “ND is rIcH, paY thE KidZ” argument is not rooted in reality.
 

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The Green Bay Packers operate at a 12% margin. Probably double that if you add back player salaries. The most optimistic number I’d say for ND profit is $30M. Even if that’s the case, the argument still stands.
No it doesn't. NFL teams average profit was 109 million after player salaries lol. You just throwing numbers around Robitussin
 

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I completely agree - just making the point that the “ND is rIcH, paY thE KidZ” argument is not rooted in reality.
ND profit 54 MIL listed above. Just.wanted to give you the hard facts. My business is money, numbers, analytics. Don't pretend like you run the Packers business operations
 

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Got it . Lol

When this site was a real site people got banned for this.

What a cesspool lies here these days

I am rooting for you and hope things turn around. Best of luck
Nobody got banned for saying something that is literally posted all over social media.

We don’t want people copying and pasting or ripping off premium info but when something is posted and then discussed on Twitter/Instagram/Reddit you expect people to discuss it there… but put in ear muffs here? I’m pretty confused.
 
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