'21 NC RB Will Shipley (Clemson Verbal)

[NDBoiler]

Shipley just committed.

To Ohio State.

Notre Dame Man?

Or did you forget the italics?

 

[T-Boone]

Shipley just committed.

To Ohio State.

I hope this is just you on wild turkey.

 

[Irish YJ]

I hope this is just you on wild turkey.

has to be everclear or moonshine

 

[BobbyMac]

Actually Pina Coladas.

 

[Irish YJ]

Actually Pina Coladas.

with everclear chaser?

 

[T-Boone]

In that article if you look at all the things he says appeals about other schools they are all ticks to ND rather than Clemson.
Stanford: academics/McCaffrey
Northwestern: academics/close to chicago
NC: fit/early playing time
All of them except Clemson: closeness to other recruits

 

[BeauBenken]

In that article if you look at all the things he says appeals about other schools they are all ticks to ND rather than Clemson.
Stanford: academics/McCaffrey
Northwestern: academics/close to chicago
NC: fit/early playing time
All of them except Clemson: closeness to other recruits

He's closer to the ND recruits than any other recruits though. Buchner and him played lacrosse together; Fisher is like a "brother" to him.

 

[Irish#1]

Given the proximity to home and the number of visits to Clemson, if it was Clemson, why not commit already? We have a legitimate shot for this young man.

 

[ThePiombino]

Given the proximity to home and the number of visits to Clemson, if it was Clemson, why not commit already? We have a legitimate shot for this young man.

Out of respect to his relationship with Taylor. Taylor is literally the only reason this kid is even a remote possibility for ND at this point.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Honestly you have to think to the kid what matters here

Does relationship with your teammates matter? ND

Does relationship with your coach matter? ND

Does getting a world class education in the event your career aspirations are cut short matter? ND

Or is it all about playing for a National Championship > all else? Clemson

Because if in the end, all that matters is the last one to kids today, why do you even try for 5 star kids if you are ND? Seems like a ton of effort with very little reward. And I say not meaning DONT recruit them but seems an excessive amount of effort has been put it on one person who, if choosing Clemson, it really never mattered to anyway.

 

[irishandy]

To visit other schools?

I think it is down to ND and Clemson.

If he doesn't commit before his June visit to ND I think ND has the better chance to land him.

 

[Irish#1]

Out of respect to his relationship with Taylor. Taylor is literally the only reason this kid is even a remote possibility for ND at this point.

Which is my point. If he were Clemson, why put off the inevitable? You have to break the bad news sooner or later.

Honestly you have to think to the kid what matters here

Does relationship with your teammates matter? ND

Does relationship with your coach matter? ND

Does getting a world class education in the event your career aspirations are cut short matter? ND

Or is it all about playing for a National Championship > all else? Clemson

Because if in the end, all that matters is the last one to kids today, why do you even try for 5 star kids if you are ND? Seems like a ton of effort with very little reward. And I say not meaning DONT recruit them but seems an excessive amount of effort has been put it on one person who, if choosing Clemson, it really never mattered to anyway.

I've given up on "education matters". We've seen way too many say that then pick another school.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Which is my point. If he were Clemson, why put off the inevitable? You have to break the bad news sooner or later.



I've given up on "education matters". We've seen way too many say that then pick another school.

You would think it could have a little more influence during times of economic uncertainty.

 

[317Irish]

You would think it could have a little more influence during times of economic uncertainty.

I like your point and wish (both for their own sake and selfishly to benefit ND football) more kids would think about that part of their decision. However, as I read this o thought, maybe it makes more sense economically for him to be within a few hours of home vs a plane ride away as it relates to family coming to visit and watch his games. With that being said, I’m not sure what their situation is.

 

[Wingman Ray]

I like your point and wish (both for their own sake and selfishly to benefit ND football) more kids would think about that part of their decision. However, as I read this o thought, maybe it makes more sense economically for him to be within a few hours of home vs a plane ride away as it relates to family coming to visit and watch his games. With that being said, I’m not sure what their situation is.

If someone is putting family coming to see you play ball over career preparation and betterment, then that person is borderline a candidate for a lobotomy.

Just saying

 

[fightingirish26]

If someone is putting family coming to see you play ball over career preparation and betterment, then that person is borderline a candidate for a lobotomy.

Just saying

I mean it's obviously not that black and white, but elitist gonna elitist

 

[BeauBenken]

Per ISD, Shipley had a zoom meeting with Brian Kelly, Lance Taylor, and Tommy Rees which he said went "great". Matt Freeman from ISD will be following up with him tomorrow to hear more about it.

 

[ThePiombino]

Per ISD, Shipley had a zoom meeting with Brian Kelly, Lance Taylor, and Tommy Rees which he said went "great". Matt Freeman from ISD will be following up with him tomorrow to hear more about it.

Love to hear it

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

 

[BobbyMac]

If someone is putting family coming to see you play ball over career preparation and betterment, then that person is borderline a candidate for a lobotomy.

Just saying

It's not like it's ND vs Charlotte.

As much as the Taylor/McCaffrey story makes sense, it's not like Dabo isn't about to send Travis Etienne to the League.

 

[phork]

Honestly you have to think to the kid what matters here

Does relationship with your teammates matter? ND

Does relationship with your coach matter? ND

Does getting a world class education in the event your career aspirations are cut short matter? ND

Or is it all about playing for a National Championship > all else? Clemson

Because if in the end, all that matters is the last one to kids today, why do you even try for 5 star kids if you are ND? Seems like a ton of effort with very little reward. And I say not meaning DONT recruit them but seems an excessive amount of effort has been put it on one person who, if choosing Clemson, it really never mattered to anyway.

Nothing matters but being at an elite program, play time and championships. Don't kid yourself into believing education matters. Maybe to 1% or less of these kids? The rest want to be showcased and punch their NFL ticket. Why but school as an obstacle?

 

[Ndaccountant]

Nothing matters but being at an elite program, play time and championships. Don't kid yourself into believing education matters. Maybe to 1% or less of these kids? The rest want to be showcased and punch their NFL ticket. Why but school as an obstacle?

I think that is a bit harsh. To many kids, education is important, but isn't the deciding factor. Moreover, many kids come from environments that make ND appear out of reach academically and they have other rival coaches feeding that doubt.

Not saying that is the case at all with Will, just speaking in general.

 

[IrishSportsDaily]

Will Shipley Goes In-Depth on Zoom with Brian Kelly, Tommy Rees & Lance Taylor

 

[EvilleIrish]

Will Shipley Goes In-Depth on Zoom with Brian Kelly, Tommy Rees & Lance Taylor

After reading that it’s hard not to get your hopes up. It’ll sting if we don’t get him.

 

[BeauBenken]

Will Shipley Goes In-Depth on Zoom with Brian Kelly, Tommy Rees & Lance Taylor

Quality.

 

[phork]

After reading that it’s hard not to get your hopes up. It’ll sting if we don’t get him.

Lol you haven't been around here for long eh?

 

[ND4LIFE]

If someone is putting family coming to see you play ball over career preparation and betterment, then that person is borderline a candidate for a lobotomy.

Just saying

This statement seems a bit irrational from my perspective. You are misguided here because you have misplaced the ability to understand the value of family to adolescent individuals. To some of these kids their parents and/or grandparents are the center of their universe. I don't know what your relationship was like with your family, but is it outside the realm of reason to believe that playing in front of your family may hold a little weight in your decision?

Oh what hell am I talking about! Clemson could throw him in a room full of hot coeds and none of this shat would matter anyways! I'll see myself out!

 

[phork]

I think that is a bit harsh. To many kids, education is important, but isn't the deciding factor. Moreover, many kids come from environments that make ND appear out of reach academically and they have other rival coaches feeding that doubt.

Not saying that is the case at all with Will, just speaking in general.

This statement seems a bit irrational from my perspective. You are misguided here because you have misplaced the ability to understand the value of family to adolescent individuals. To some of these kids their parents and/or grandparents are the center of their universe. I don't know what your relationship was like with your family, but is it outside the realm of reason to believe that playing in front of your family may hold a little weight in your decision?

Oh what hell am I talking about! Clemson could throw him in a room full of hot coeds and none of this shat would matter anyways! I'll see myself out!

If you are academically strong enough to play at ND. If you want to play high level football and win championships you go to Clemson, OSU, LSU or Alabama. Until ND can sustain top10-top5 finishes year in and year out those kids will choose elsewhere. Until ND can stop losing games like michigan last year, the kids will go elsewhere.

Weather is not a factor. Kids go to OSU, PSU etc.
Academics is a factor, whether they can deal with it or not, its a huge thing to some of these kids because you can still come out with a degree at these other schools along an easier path. Playing football at this level is a full time job. Why go to a school that, you know, makes you play school.
Family is a big factor to.

ND will just never get those kids. ND will get a 5 star here and there, bunch of 4 and 3 stars. The difference is you need to find those diamonds in the rough, like Dantonio did for all those years. Thats where your bread is going to be buttered.

 

[NDohio]

If you are academically strong enough to play at ND. If you want to play high level football and win championships you go to Clemson, OSU, LSU or Alabama. Until ND can sustain top10-top5 finishes year in and year out those kids will choose elsewhere. Until ND can stop losing games like michigan last year, the kids will go elsewhere.

Weather is not a factor. Kids go to OSU, PSU etc.
Academics is a factor, whether they can deal with it or not, its a huge thing to some of these kids because you can still come out with a degree at these other schools along an easier path. Playing football at this level is a full time job. Why go to a school that, you know, makes you play school.
Family is a big factor to.

ND will just never get those kids. ND will get a 5 star here and there, bunch of 4 and 3 stars. The difference is you need to find those diamonds in the rough, like Dantonio did for all those years. Thats where your bread is going to be buttered.

I think that game really broke you...

That's a pretty positive ISD article. Hopefully ND took a big step forward with that Zoom recruiting visit.

 

[dublinirish]

folks on II podcast today confident ND lands Rocco and Shipley

 

[greyhammer90]

folks on II podcast today confident ND lands Rocco and Shipley

They seem confident in Rocco, and seem to think Shipley is more in the 51% camp.

O'Malley said that he does not believe Colzie will rejoin the class.