'21 IL QB JJ McCarthy (Michigan Verbal)

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So, just so we're all on the same page. This is the same Shea Patterson that strong armed schools into giving his brother a job for his signature. Also, the same Shea Patterson that lied his ass off about what went down at Ole Miss and tried to play victim after they got caught. Sweet role model. He's CEO of Douche Inc.

Correct. It's funny how quick a "die-hard ND fan" can overlook the stench that Patterson has given out around the NCAA over the course of his career. The kid is an entitled punk but he's giving JJ attention so he's a fine role model now. Good look.

I love how Kelly and staff are approaching recruiting. I have zero issue with him "using" JJ to get Buchner. The staff identified him as their guy and did what they had to do to get him. In this day when it comes to recruiting, outside of paying players, I'm all about doing what has to be done to be successful. At the end of the day, Kelly will be judged by what happens on the field.

I'm all about supporting your players, but not many on the board are going to be thrilled reading that comment.

I hope that JJ finds success at whatever school he goes to. If that school is Michigan, I hope they go winless while he puts up good numbers and stays healthy.
 
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'21 IL QB JJ McCarthy

'21 IL QB JJ McCarthy

I've heard in this thread just how good JJ is. Granted scouts and colleges know a great deal more than I do.

I saw JJ play in last year's state title game. I came away unimpressed. Most of his passing yards were from screens or check down passes to his backs, which resulted in significant yards after the catch. He struggled connecting on mid distance or long passes.

I know this is one game, but that was my only experience watching him play and against good competition.
 

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Notre Dame made a mistake. That is apparent now and will continue to be apparent over the course of the next 6 years to me. I don’t have to blindly follow everything Kelly does nor will I. I’m butthurt. Imagine being a huge ND fan and having a Soph 5* QB that you can hand deliver to ND, imagine them passing on him for someone you deem inferior. (Disclaimer I like Buchner but I like JJ more) Imagine watching Harbaugh of all people swoop in and firmly plant himself in pole position. HARBAUGH! MICHIGAN! That’s what it’s come to. You’re GD right I’m butthurt, that’s my reality.

You guys are upset because I said good thing ND doesn’t play Michigan? Seriously? Yeah it’s a good thing, I think he’s the best QB in the country and he’s upset with ND. I don’t want to watch him torch my team, that would not be fun. So good thing!

I have to cheer for f*cking Michigan now and you guys wonder why I’m upset.
 

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I've heard in this thread just how good JJ is. Granted scouts and colleges know a great deal more than I do.

I saw JJ play in last year's state title game. I came away unimpressed. Most of his passing yards were from screens or check down passes to his backs, which resulted in significant yards after the catch. He struggled connecting on mid distance or long passes.

I know this is one game, but that was my only experience watching him play and against good competition.

JJ had a compound fracture in the thumb on his throwing hand. Had to have surgery day after state title. Multiple doctors told him he couldn’t play. He was in immense pain and toughed it out. So maybe you should reevaluate.
 

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Notre Dame made a mistake. That is apparent now and will continue to be apparent over the course of the next 6 years to me. I don’t have to blindly follow everything Kelly does nor will I. I’m butthurt. Imagine being a huge ND fan and having a Soph 5* QB that you can hand deliver to ND, imagine them passing on him for someone you deem inferior. (Disclaimer I like Buchner but I like JJ more) Imagine watching Harbaugh of all people swoop in and firmly plant himself in pole position. HARBAUGH! MICHIGAN! That’s what it’s come to. You’re GD right I’m butthurt, that’s my reality.

You guys are upset because I said good thing ND doesn’t play Michigan? Seriously? Yeah it’s a good thing, I think he’s the best QB in the country and he’s upset with ND. I don’t want to watch him torch my team, that would not be fun. So good thing!

I have to cheer for f*cking Michigan now and you guys wonder why I’m upset.

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JJ had a compound fracture in the thumb on his throwing hand. Had to have surgery day after state title. Multiple doctors told him he couldn’t play. He was in immense pain and toughed it out. So maybe you should reevaluate.

So he has soft bones. Hard pass.
 

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Naz,

Why not Northwestern?

Fitz seemed like the perfect guy to help him focus the ND angst.

Although if I remember correctly, McMahon, Tomczak and Harbaugh all wanted (or didn't get) ND offers. All 3 being good Catholic boys. McMahon was very open about wanting to play for ND. Would have sat for 2 years behind Montana and erase the Rusty Lisch return and the Blair Kiel era, handing it off to Steve Buerlein on the way out the door. Would have like him with Skoronski in evanston.
 

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Notre Dame made a mistake. That is apparent now and will continue to be apparent over the course of the next 6 years to me. I don’t have to blindly follow everything Kelly does nor will I. I’m butthurt. Imagine being a huge ND fan and having a Soph 5* QB that you can hand deliver to ND, imagine them passing on him for someone you deem inferior. (Disclaimer I like Buchner but I like JJ more) Imagine watching Harbaugh of all people swoop in and firmly plant himself in pole position. HARBAUGH! MICHIGAN! That’s what it’s come to. You’re GD right I’m butthurt, that’s my reality.

You guys are upset because I said good thing ND doesn’t play Michigan? Seriously? Yeah it’s a good thing, I think he’s the best QB in the country and he’s upset with ND. I don’t want to watch him torch my team, that would not be fun. So good thing!

I have to cheer for f*cking Michigan now and you guys wonder why I’m upset.

You do not know that ND made a mistake. You are personally invested in JJ so you think he's the best. Maybe he is not there is no way to know at this moment if ND made a mistake. They wanted Buchner and they got him. Sorry you have to cheer for Michigan but don't expect other ND fans to share your feelings about JJ. If Buchner is a bust and JJ lights it up then I guess you'll be proven right. Pretty sad for you that you'll have to hope your favorite team sucks with Buchner so you can save face.
 

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Naz,

Why not Northwestern?

Fitz seemed like the perfect guy to help him focus the ND angst.

Although if I remember correctly, McMahon, Tomczak and Harbaugh all wanted (or didn't get) ND offers. All 3 being good Catholic boys. McMahon was very open about wanting to play for ND. Would have sat for 2 years behind Montana and erase the Rusty Lisch return and the Blair Kiel era, handing it off to Steve Buerlein on the way out the door. Would have like him with Skoronski in evanston.

He really liked Fitz and NU but I never believed he’d go there. JJ wanted to play big time ball and Harbaugh really did a great job recruiting him.
 

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Perfect fit for Michigan. I’m sure he will win multiple Heismans and conference championships like all of their other “5 star” QBs they’ve signed under Harbaugh.
 

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You do not know that ND made a mistake. You are personally invested in JJ so you think he's the best. Maybe he is not there is no way to know at this moment if ND made a mistake. They wanted Buchner and they got him. Sorry you have to cheer for Michigan but don't expect other ND fans to share your feelings about JJ. If Buchner is a bust and JJ lights it up then I guess you'll be proven right. Pretty sad for you that you'll have to hope your favorite team sucks with Buchner so you can save face.

I said “to me” aka in my opinion. ND made a mistake IN MY OPINION. I don’t mean this to be rude but it’s hard not to come off as rude via text. I can only offer my opinion, I’m sorry it’s not popular but that doesn’t mean I can’t share it. You must have me twisted because I never said I wasn’t gonna root for ND or Buchner. I hope they are both heisman contenders. I don’t care about being “right” but I do still have opinions.
 

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Considering neither has played a collegiate game or even went through a practice, for that matter. I’m going to say WAY TOO EARLY, to say whether ND made a mistake or not.

But hey, who am I to insert logic into a perfectly good grown man tantrum.
 

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This will be my last post. I’m not going to waste another second arguing over my opinions or defending my guy because that’s notngoing to change. God bless everyone here.
 
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Considering neither has played a collegiate game or even went through a practice, for that matter. I’m going to say WAY TOO EARLY, to say whether ND made a mistake or not.

But hey, who am I to insert logic into a perfectly good grown man tantrum.

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Bitches be trippin
 

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Considering neither has played a collegiate game or even went through a practice, for that matter. I’m going to say WAY TOO EARLY, to say whether ND made a mistake or not.

But hey, who am I to insert logic into a perfectly good grown man tantrum.

Let's take it a step further. These two QBs haven't even taken snaps as a junior in high school.

Plenty of time to see what both teams have.
 

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This will be my last post. I’m not going to waste another second arguing over my opinions or defending my guy because that’s notngoing to change. God bless everyone here.

See ya. Michigan sucks.
 

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See ya. Michigan sucks.

Fo sho. If Naz is the kid’s pops, I get it. Go to bat for your kid. If Naz is not family or close personal friend/ god father, it’s starting to get creepy. He makes me hope for ND/ Shitigan In a major bowl. Nut up or shut up.
 
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This is painful to read for many reasons. Lets be grown ups. Good luck to JJ, sincerely hope he does well unless he meets ND on the field. Naz seems like he really cares for the kid, give him some slack. We are all ND fans here.
 

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This is painful to read for many reasons. Lets be grown ups. Good luck to JJ, sincerely hope he does well unless he meets ND on the field. Naz seems like he really cares for the kid, give him some slack. We are all ND fans here.

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I said “to me” aka in my opinion. ND made a mistake IN MY OPINION. I don’t mean this to be rude but it’s hard not to come off as rude via text. I can only offer my opinion, I’m sorry it’s not popular but that doesn’t mean I can’t share it. You must have me twisted because I never said I wasn’t gonna root for ND or Buchner. I hope they are both heisman contenders. I don’t care about being “right” but I do still have opinions.

No, you stated "ND made a mistake". You didn't state it as an opinion. Maybe the rest of what you said was opinion. And I countered your statement with my own. My opinion is a much more level headed opinion. I like Buchner, a lot. But just like you don't know for sure that JJ's game will translate well in college, I don't know if Buchner's will. So we really won't know if ND made a mistake for several years. And even if JJ kills it at Michigan, ND could still have made the right decision if Buchner has a good career at ND.
 

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No, you stated "ND made a mistake". You didn't state it as an opinion. Maybe the rest of what you said was opinion. And I countered your statement with my own. My opinion is a much more level headed opinion. I like Buchner, a lot. But just like you don't know for sure that JJ's game will translate well in college, I don't know if Buchner's will. So we really won't know if ND made a mistake for several years. And even if JJ kills it at Michigan, ND could still have made the right decision if Buchner has a good career at ND.

Couldn’t be any worse than Patterson aka the Mentor of young McCarthy
 
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