2025 Fall Practice Thread

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IrishLion said:
Reliable Source:

- Media had a small amount of info on Minchey, which was based in some truth, that they were running with

- Some info was simply bad, coming from sources that had bias of some sort.

- Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.

- A small number of people close to the program knew by Saturday that it was Carr, but it was kept on the super DL

- Carr has a higher ceiling, and that’s the belief internally, if that’s not clear based on arm talent alone to everyone else

- Carr was the leader out of Spring, but they were in no hurry to make that “final”

- Minchey started camp hot, while Carr started slow. Minchey didn’t ever separate, though. Carr got his groove, as expected all along, and here we are.

- Minchey didn’t outperform Carr in the spring, as has been mentioned elsewhere (MY COMMENTARY: this is the beat attempting to cover their asses further from the “calling it for Minchey” debacle)

- Beat writers had almost zero info from Fall camp. Any info was coming from sources with clear bias.

- The commentary on Carr and his ball security problems contain an insinuation that Minchey was lights-out during camp… that’s not the case.

- Misinformation hit a high-water mark last week, obviously, but the tidbits trickling out even earlier were also mostly off the mark, some intentionally from certain sources

- Carr might start slow or take chances, but his upside and command of the playbook were always going to set him apart, not to mention his leadership, arm, etc.

- Teammates are not “shocked” that Carr was chosen

- NIL was part of the larger conversation, but had nothing to do with final decision (MY COMMENTARY: reading between the lines, ND had to do homework on getting Minchey some deals in the event that he became the guy)

- The rest of the position groups on offense prefer Carr (for the most part) for various/different reasons

- Defensive guys seemed to prefer Minchey slightly because of perceived ability to extend drives a bit better, particularly in context of the first two games

- Minchey is not so much better a runner that it would mean anything in the competition

- Minchey is definitely the more conservative of the two, sometimes too much so
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Can I sign up somewhere to get the intentionally bad info next year?
 
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IrishLion said:
Reliable Source:

- Media had a small amount of info on Minchey, which was based in some truth, that they were running with

- Some info was simply bad, coming from sources that had bias of some sort.

- Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.

- A small number of people close to the program knew by Saturday that it was Carr, but it was kept on the super DL

- Carr has a higher ceiling, and that’s the belief internally, if that’s not clear based on arm talent alone to everyone else

- Carr was the leader out of Spring, but they were in no hurry to make that “final”

- Minchey started camp hot, while Carr started slow. Minchey didn’t ever separate, though. Carr got his groove, as expected all along, and here we are.

- Minchey didn’t outperform Carr in the spring, as has been mentioned elsewhere (MY COMMENTARY: this is the beat attempting to cover their asses further from the “calling it for Minchey” debacle)

- Beat writers had almost zero info from Fall camp. Any info was coming from sources with clear bias.

- The commentary on Carr and his ball security problems contain an insinuation that Minchey was lights-out during camp… that’s not the case.

- Misinformation hit a high-water mark last week, obviously, but the tidbits trickling out even earlier were also mostly off the mark, some intentionally from certain sources

- Carr might start slow or take chances, but his upside and command of the playbook were always going to set him apart, not to mention his leadership, arm, etc.

- Teammates are not “shocked” that Carr was chosen

- NIL was part of the larger conversation, but had nothing to do with final decision (MY COMMENTARY: reading between the lines, ND had to do homework on getting Minchey some deals in the event that he became the guy)

- The rest of the position groups on offense prefer Carr (for the most part) for various/different reasons

- Defensive guys seemed to prefer Minchey slightly because of perceived ability to extend drives a bit better, particularly in context of the first two games

- Minchey is not so much better a runner that it would mean anything in the competition

- Minchey is definitely the more conservative of the two, sometimes too much so
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Thanks for this! The only part that doesn't make sense is each position group apparently having a preference. It's not like the coaches are running surveys and kids are smart enough to keep quiet if it's not lopsided.

The intentional mis-info piece is wild.
 
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IrishLion said:
Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.
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Oh so you're telling me Brice was lying and covering his own ass when he said both sides of the ball (coaches and players) were stunned to hear Carr was announced as the starter? And O'Malley just made it up that there's 50 sources out there saying Minchey was out preforming CJ so as to not make him and his friends look completely incompetent?
 
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Free Manera said:
You have to assume QB2 was always going to transfer, whoever it was. That's just the way it is. Somebody will pay Kenny a couple million next year to start.
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No way he gets 2 million with zero game data unless he gets to prove himself. How much did Angeli get? Not $2M I’m sure.
 
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FightingIrishLover7 said:
Arrow / Mercke
Care to add?...
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I did hear information that supports Lion’s statement about the offense preference of Carr. Specifically from a receiver that’ll play a lot.

In my initial report, I did reference Carr’s apparent vocal leadership in the huddle. I’m not surprised at all that he shown command of the offense.
 
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IrishLion said:
Reliable Source:

- Media had a small amount of info on Minchey, which was based in some truth, that they were running with

- Some info was simply bad, coming from sources that had bias of some sort.

- Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.

- A small number of people close to the program knew by Saturday that it was Carr, but it was kept on the super DL

- Carr has a higher ceiling, and that’s the belief internally, if that’s not clear based on arm talent alone to everyone else

- Carr was the leader out of Spring, but they were in no hurry to make that “final”

- Minchey started camp hot, while Carr started slow. Minchey didn’t ever separate, though. Carr got his groove, as expected all along, and here we are.

- Minchey didn’t outperform Carr in the spring, as has been mentioned elsewhere (MY COMMENTARY: this is the beat attempting to cover their asses further from the “calling it for Minchey” debacle)

- Beat writers had almost zero info from Fall camp. Any info was coming from sources with clear bias.

- The commentary on Carr and his ball security problems contain an insinuation that Minchey was lights-out during camp… that’s not the case.

- Misinformation hit a high-water mark last week, obviously, but the tidbits trickling out even earlier were also mostly off the mark, some intentionally from certain sources

- Carr might start slow or take chances, but his upside and command of the playbook were always going to set him apart, not to mention his leadership, arm, etc.

- Teammates are not “shocked” that Carr was chosen

- NIL was part of the larger conversation, but had nothing to do with final decision (MY COMMENTARY: reading between the lines, ND had to do homework on getting Minchey some deals in the event that he became the guy)

- The rest of the position groups on offense prefer Carr (for the most part) for various/different reasons

- Defensive guys seemed to prefer Minchey slightly because of perceived ability to extend drives a bit better, particularly in context of the first two games

- Minchey is not so much better a runner that it would mean anything in the competition

- Minchey is definitely the more conservative of the two, sometimes too much so
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I’ve been lurking all offseason. This is the type of post that got me to finally pull the trigger this morning.

11 more days! Let’s go ☘️
 
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IrishLion said:
Reliable Source:

- Media had a small amount of info on Minchey, which was based in some truth, that they were running with

- Some info was simply bad, coming from sources that had bias of some sort.

- Some of the info was false and INTENTIONALLY leaked. ND is aware of who/how and is dealing with it.

- A small number of people close to the program knew by Saturday that it was Carr, but it was kept on the super DL

- Carr has a higher ceiling, and that’s the belief internally, if that’s not clear based on arm talent alone to everyone else

- Carr was the leader out of Spring, but they were in no hurry to make that “final”

- Minchey started camp hot, while Carr started slow. Minchey didn’t ever separate, though. Carr got his groove, as expected all along, and here we are.

- Minchey didn’t outperform Carr in the spring, as has been mentioned elsewhere (MY COMMENTARY: this is the beat attempting to cover their asses further from the “calling it for Minchey” debacle)

- Beat writers had almost zero info from Fall camp. Any info was coming from sources with clear bias.

- The commentary on Carr and his ball security problems contain an insinuation that Minchey was lights-out during camp… that’s not the case.

- Misinformation hit a high-water mark last week, obviously, but the tidbits trickling out even earlier were also mostly off the mark, some intentionally from certain sources

- Carr might start slow or take chances, but his upside and command of the playbook were always going to set him apart, not to mention his leadership, arm, etc.

- Teammates are not “shocked” that Carr was chosen

- NIL was part of the larger conversation, but had nothing to do with final decision (MY COMMENTARY: reading between the lines, ND had to do homework on getting Minchey some deals in the event that he became the guy)

- The rest of the position groups on offense prefer Carr (for the most part) for various/different reasons

- Defensive guys seemed to prefer Minchey slightly because of perceived ability to extend drives a bit better, particularly in context of the first two games

- Minchey is not so much better a runner that it would mean anything in the competition

- Minchey is definitely the more conservative of the two, sometimes too much so
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I blame Love. He kept playing with Minchey at QB on NCAA '26!
 
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Hot take that came to mind. Everyone keeps talking about whether it was Carr or Minchey that they’d be thrown to the wolves starting in Miami. What if Carr is just one of those guys where they are unflappable in big moments. Yes it’s tough to recreate crowd noise and a hostile environment but some guys have that personality where the big stage doesn’t affect them. Carr has been fighting for that starting job ALL summer. Balancing himself on every bad pass by him or a good pass by Minchey.
 
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GoldenBoy3 said:
Hot take that came to mind. Everyone keeps talking about whether it was Carr or Minchey that they’d be thrown to the wolves starting in Miami. What if Minchey is just one of those guys where they are unflappable in big moments. Yes it’s tough to recreate crowd noise and a hostile environment but some guys have that personality where the big stage doesn’t affect them. Minchey has been fighting for that starting job ALL summer. Balancing himself on every bad pass by him or a good pass by Carr.
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It goes both ways.
 
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