2024 College Football Playoffs

[wizards8507]

This makes no sense to me, but that's probably why it'll happen. Just go to 16 and call it a day.

Harumph. Fullbacks.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I have a $50 parlay I placed maybe 5/6 weeks ago. It's for the Steelers to win the SB AND ND to win the Natty. It pays like 24k

I gamble as a hobby with the expectation of the $50-100 or so I put in at the beginning of the season to be gone by the end. But my yearly buy of the Steelers over win total pays off as a nice bump to get me into the post season gambling every year. I think it's like 4/5 of the past years they've hit the over in win total. It was 8.5 this year which was hilarious

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I don't care how many teams they expand it to at this point. But they absolutely HAVE TO get rid of conference affiliations for football. It's causing way too much bias, which is ridiculous given the realignment.

Take the Top 40 each year, with options for relegation and promotion. Divide them into 4 divisions. Schedule division play like the NFL does. Establish playoff rankings as objectively as possible given the results on the field. Seed the teams according to their respective rankings.

Belonging to a conference has become enough. More than winning games. It's bullshit. Optics, bias, reputation, smoke and mirrors. Missouri and Kentucky suddenly don't waltz into the other three P4 conferences and win them.

Let me be clear, too, I'm specifically talking about the SEC. It has truly taken on a life of it's own at this point. Texas came in and in year one lost to UGA twice. .500 OU humiliated Alabama. We've talked before about how they've sent their second tier to bowl games over the years only to lose to Northwestern.

When you look at their record against the other conferences, three schools are carrying that weight. Their collective championships reside with Urban's Florida, Saban's Alabama, LSU and now UGA. Cam Newton was a blip on the radar.

 

[tussin]

12 games is perfect if you seed the field after auto-bids. This whole thing is stupid.

 

[irishnd31]

Harumph. Fullbacks.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yeah get rid of the conferences and set up divisions like the NFL does.

We can call them things like the Pacific Division, the Atlantic Coast Division, the Southeastern Division, the Southwest Division, the M1dw0st Division, the Mountain West Division, and the Big East Division.

Even the CFP bros know that the old conference affiliations ruled. That's why they manipulated the rankings to set up OG Pac-12 versus Big 10 in the Rose Bowl.

Doing this will probably hurt the lower tier (FCS etc) schools and the annual dogshit teams supported by big conferences due to payouts from conference affiliation. Im ok with some pain due to reorganzing and acknowledging CFB for what it is.... the NFLs minor leagues

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

This makes no sense to me, but that's probably why it'll happen. Just go to 16 and call it a day.

Because with 14 you preserve the auto-bids for the SEC and B1G.

EDIT: I meant you preserve the Byes

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This makes no sense to me, but that's probably why it'll happen. Just go to 16 and call it a day.

I saw someone posting about a "NIT" CFB playoff bracket for the next 12 teams lol....

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Saw an article saying the selection committee is already eyeing first round bye selection process and adding 2 more teams by 2026.

🤣. SEC babies are upset by not getting first round byes and also need two more spots.

And there will be zero talk of reducing the # of regular season games b/c…revenue
They will hold out forever to end CCG b/c…revenue

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Because with 14 you preserve the auto-bids for the SEC and B1G.

yep!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

And there will be zero talk of reducing the # of regular season games b/c…revenue
They will hold out forever to end CCG b/c…revenue

The cynic in me says that if you look at whats happened since BCS there has been incremental changes year in and year out that is inexorably leading to a top tier Superconference based on tv viewership/revenue and schools with large fandoms (school revenue) like a Premier League for College football. Im ok with this as long as they do relegation and promotion and underperforming teams cant just stay in place.

Go ahead and determine the most watched teams weekly for the last 10-15 years, determine which schools generate the most revenue over the same period from football, rank these teams according to the financial data, form a 16-20 team super conference and then next 16-20, and so on and start from there. Create tiers with promotion and relegation and have a NFL style playoff. No more scheduling FCS teams and paying them $3mil to beat you at home. Put some limits on transferring and payments to players... pretty easy stuff really but it will hurt for a few years.

ND would rank low on revenue generated by the program to the school but is top tier in tv viewership and ad revenue.... Im sure there are some nerds out there than come up with a formula to accurately weight important financial data points from tv and products lol.

 

[GATTACA!]

We should all be rooting for 14 or 16. It eliminates byes that we aren’t eligible for anyways.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Belonging to a conference has become enough. More than winning games. It's bullshit. Optics, bias, reputation, smoke and mirrors. Missouri and Kentucky suddenly don't waltz into the other three P4 conferences and win them.

Let me be clear, too, I'm specifically talking about the SEC. It has truly taken on a life of it's own at this point. Texas came in and in year one lost to UGA twice. .500 OU humiliated Alabama. We've talked before about how they've sent their second tier to bowl games over the years only to lose to Northwestern.

When you look at their record against the other conferences, three schools are carrying that weight. Their collective championships reside with Urban's Florida, Saban's Alabama, LSU and now UGA. Cam Newton was a blip on the radar.

SEC and soon the B1G.

I should've clarified above, I'm not crazy about the idea of the sport moving in this direction. I'd prefer the OG conferences stay in tact and college football can maintain their rivalry games. Not to mention the money that gets dispersed to the lesser schools in the conferences, etc. There are plenty of things to consider, however, it just appears the trend is to blow this up and separate football from everything else. And if doing that is the goal, then what is the best way to do it, knowing that money and TV deals will be the ultimate deciding factor?

 

[irishu]

What does the bracket look like for a 14 team playoff? Seems like it would have to have byes, right?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

We should all be rooting for 14 or 16. It eliminates byes that we aren’t eligible for anyways.

The byes are only due to conference affiliations, right? If college football becomes independent, ND's lack of a CCG is irrelevant, and they should be ranked according to their resume. Simulated BCS rankings for this season would've had ND at #3. In a 12-team format w/o conference stipulations, ND gets the bye.

 

[ab2cmiller]

What does the bracket look like for a 14 team playoff? Seems like it would have to have byes, right?

Would basically look like the current bracket except seeds 3 and 4 would have to play first round games and not get byes. Only seeds 1 and 2 get byes.

 

[IrishLax]

We should all be rooting for 14 or 16. It eliminates byes that we aren’t eligible for anyways.

The answer is 16 IMO. Can’t have more than 4 rounds without it getting absurd, so that’s the max. It eliminates the byes and lets you seed evenly.

 

[GATTACA!]

The byes are only due to conference affiliations, right? If college football becomes independent, ND's lack of a CCG is irrelevant, and they should be ranked according to their resume. Simulated BCS rankings for this season would've had ND at #3. In a 12-team format w/o conference stipulations, ND gets the bye.

I doubt everyone outside of the SEC and B1G would agree to eliminate the conference stipulations without expanding the field.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I doubt everyone outside of the SEC and B1G would agree to eliminate the conference stipulations without expanding the field.

I was just commenting on the part of your post that said ND isn't eligible anyways. There's a reason. Keeping the field at 12 or expanding it doesn't mean anything unless 1) they do away with conference affiliation or 2) ND joins a conference or 3) ND is just ok being perpetually seeding beyond the byes.

 

[GATTACA!]

I was just commenting on the part of your post that said ND isn't eligible anyways. There's a reason. Keeping the field at 12 or expanding it doesn't mean anything unless 1) they do away with conference affiliation or 2) ND joins a conference or 3) ND is just ok being perpetually seeding beyond the byes.

How would there be byes at 16?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

How would there be byes at 16?

Sorry I just meant if they create a bracket with byes. I'm just speaking in a general sense, I guess.

You're saying expand to 16 so there won't be any byes at all? I agree with that. But they'll still find a way to keep ND's rankings down because of the CCG aspect.

 

[GATTACA!]

Sorry I just meant if they create a bracket with byes. I'm just speaking in a general sense, I guess.

You're saying expand to 16 so there won't be any byes at all? I agree with that. But they'll still find a way to keep ND's rankings down because of the CCG aspect.

Yeah I'm just saying it's better for us if there are less or no byes because we can't get one of them anyways. Reduces the chances of us facing a team that's more well rested than us.

 

[thekid33]

The answer is 16 IMO. Can’t have more than 4 rounds without it getting absurd, so that’s the max. It eliminates the byes and lets you seed evenly.16

16 with the first two rounds on campus is the way to go.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'm thinking that with NIL certain guys will be less prone to sit out of the playoffs, but it will depend on the guy I suppose. The next sure thing might decide to sit out entirely if he's going first overall to the NFL.

I think 16 makes the most sense, but again, I'm not in favor of rewarding 9-3 or 8-4 teams because of the conference they play in. Results have to matter. Everyone decided to expand and pick each other apart. Now deal with the consequences of your greed.

Miami, BYU and Army would all be in the conversation for me with 16 teams. I'm sure Alabama, SCar and Ole Miss would be favored over all three by Vegas on a neutral field, but that's not entirely what this is all about. Either beat your conference or find another one.

 

[wizards8507]

16 with the first two rounds on campus is the way to go.

Pretend you have a hypothetical best team in the country that has a 75/25 chance of beating any other team they play. Clear-cut the best team.

That team only wins a 16 team single-elimination tournament 32% of the time.

 

[Terry Jillery]

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Natty odds have moved significantly in our favor since the Beck announcement.

 

[Irish4life]

The answer is 16 IMO. Can’t have more than 4 rounds without it getting absurd, so that’s the max. It eliminates the byes and lets you seed evenly.

Copy the fcs playoff and remove 2 games from the regular season IMHO

 

[HouseofPain]

Get rid of preseason rankings and everything gets a heck of a lot easier.

 

[RDU Irish]

NIL cash pools for tourney wins will be needed - play more, pay more.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

NIL cash pools for tourney wins will be needed - play more, pay more.

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