2023 Transfer QB

Irish_Mickey

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I would be thrilled to have Brennan Armstrong. Mobile QB with 9,000+ passing yards and the best QB season in an ACC program's history? Sign me up. His stats in 2021 were absolutely ridiculous. Passed for less than 337 yards in only 1 game. Had 6 games with 400+ passing yards, including 1 over 500. Had 9 rushing TD's and, in 2020, had > 500 rushing yards.

Not sure why he regressed so much in 2022, but UVA was terrible. They were 105th in rushing yards per game...there were 16 players who had more rushing yards. I expect a big bounceback for him in 2023. This situation reminds me a bit of Jayden Daniels, who was a hard pass on this board when he was in the portal. Would have been nice to have Daniels this year, who impressively has 1 less rushing yard than our leading rusher.

2021 season: Every Record Brennan Armstrong Broke this Season
 

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I would absolutely give a shit if Buchner transfers.

Card is no guarantee to be good, even better than Buchner. We’re also one injury away from a mess then. Rather be two injuries away from a mess.

Buchner beating out Card is fantastic possibly for the prospects moving forward. I don’t see him transferring, and don’t find Buchner winning the job even out of realm. Card is a prospect with experience, but not a bonafide starter.
But have you considered, Card is the shiny new toy????? (That everyone will beg to be benched after the first INT he throws)
 

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I think either of Card, Armstrong or Leary (if his injury heals properly) would greatly improve the QB room by stepping the competition for the starter and giving the team a much lower floor if the starter is injured. If Buchner wins the starting position, which I would consider a win, and one of these experienced transfers candidates coming off the bench, it’s a big improvement over this season. Mr. Pyne competed like a warrior but he just doesn’t have the skills the three transfer candidates or Buchner have. Can’t wait to see how it all plays out.
 

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Biggest bunch of BS in that Athletic article is that “some in the institution” don’t want someone to transfer in and get the same degree that someone who spent four years there. FOH, you’re just pissed you didn’t get to milk them for hundreds of thousands of dollars to get that degree. How many transfers are going to even qualify to get their degree in a year without intensive work. Such elitist bullshit. We’ve got games to win bitches, open up those damn floodgates!!!
Honestly that’s a pretty valid point from an institutional perspective for any school let alone what is the premiere Catholic University in the world.

If someone parachutes in as a Junior/Senior it seems to me that they would miss out on much of what makes ND unique in that sense.
 

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Has anyone else watched this? I was excited to get hyped for Card, but I came away thoroughly unimpressed. We can't have Pyne start again in 2023, but I think the Card hype is based on his recruiting profile
No most haven't. Bunch of stat warriors and recruiting ranking jockeys that are all in on Card. His game film is unimpressive.
 

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I don't think Buchner would be the one to transfer out, at least this year. I think Pyne will probably graduate and then transfer, and I could see Angeli reading the writing on the wall and leaving too.

Buchner might as well stick it out, it's not like he is going to be guaranteed a starter job somewhere as a transfer. He has barely played any football in the past 3 years. Even if he is QB2 he will see action at some point. If he gets jumped by Minchey, that's another story.
 

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Why wouldn’t Cade stay put until the season was over to get to potentially play in a natty?

I could easily see Hairball off the record telling him to GTFO "you're either with us or against us"
 

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No most haven't. Bunch of stat warriors and recruiting ranking jockeys that are all in on Card. His game film is unimpressive.

There isn’t a single name in the portal that has perfect game film…..that’s why they’re in the portal. If you’re unimpressed there I can’t think of anyone you’ll be impressed by.

I don’t see Card is a savior, but I do think he is a capable P5 QB at minimum with a significant ceiling at maximum. Think that’s fair.
 

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As long as an injury is not considered chronic or prolonged effect, you can’t add in fear someone might get injured again. If the diagnosis is it’ll affect him moving forward that legitimately changes things. Could it happen? Sure that would suck. But **** happens.

Sorry, meant to respond to this and can't remember if I did...

To the bolded, you absolutely can and you should. It's not a matter of Player-X has been hurt in the past and might get hurt again....it's a matter of evaluating the situation in its entirety. Genetics, type of injuries, type of offense, strength of OL, etc. For example, all last off season I was excited for Buchner to get his shot, but I wanted a transfer as a fall back due simply to the fact that Tyler has had injuries in the past and the type of player he is with his running ability combined with the type of offense they seemed to want to run, it just increased the chances of him getting hurt again. Football is a physical sport and injuries happen. You almost need to expect it and plan for it.

Regarding the rest of your post, I agree. Leary's injury should be evaluated precisely how you mentioned. I think I just weigh injury risk a little more heavily in this situation because 1) Leary is dealing with his own 2) Tyler is dealing with his own 3) We know what we have in Pyne 4) We know nothing about what we have in Angeli. If those first two guys can't get past their own injury issues, this team is hamstrung again.
 

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I wonder if schools can have a transfer undergo a medical exam before offering him a scholarship? If Leary has a clean bill of health then he probably is the best prospect. But the transfer is almost definitely QB1 next year, and if he can't go we are back to the same situation as this year - a bunch of unprovens, and one proven to be not good enough.
 

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I must be totally clueless when it comes to anatomy, but to me a pectoral injury doesn't seem to be one that would be difficult to return from in regards to throwing the ball? I'd be more worried if it were an actual arm injury.
 

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No most haven't. Bunch of stat warriors and recruiting ranking jockeys that are all in on Card. His game film is unimpressive.
I think Card is a good player, but I think Tyler Van Dyke would be a better fit for the type of offense that Rees wants to run. Rees might try and run the Buchner style offense from earlier in the season with Card and if he does I'd be nervous.
 

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My vote is for Armstrong. If OC/OL were an issue this year, then I look forward to 2021 UVA with better toys around him.
Excuse me as I book 2024 natty tickets.
 

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Has anyone else watched this? I was excited to get hyped for Card, but I came away thoroughly unimpressed. We can't have Pyne start again in 2023, but I think the Card hype is based on his recruiting profile
I watched the video of every throw he made in 2021. Thought he looked pretty good. Also seemed to be passing a lot out of 3rd and long. I’m assuming Texas couldn’t run the ball that year. I’ll watch this one in a bit.
 

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Absolute travesty that Iowa and scUM don’t meet up next fall.
Iowa will find a way to go 8-4 or 9-3 despite only scoring 99 points all season, and scUM will ride their Charmin soft schedule to 10+ wins and they'll meet, again, in the B1G Championship, so don't you worry.

I present to you, scUM's September slate in 2023:

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I can't believe Cade chose Iowa, btw. Curious if there weren't any other viable suiters for him or what went into that decision
 

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I must be totally clueless when it comes to anatomy, but to me a pectoral injury doesn't seem to be one that would be difficult to return from in regards to throwing the ball? I'd be more worried if it were an actual arm injury.
you stretch your pec out every time you pull you arm back to throw I think?
Iowa will find a way to go 8-4 or 9-3 despite only scoring 99 points all season, and scUM will ride their Charmin soft schedule to 10+ wins and they'll meet, again, in the B1G Championship, so don't you worry.

I present to you, scUM's September slate in 2023:

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I can't believe Cade chose Iowa, btw. Curious if there weren't any other viable suiters for him or what went into that decision
Hey! Eastern Michigan was a fun team to use on the NCAA games.
 

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Remember for these guys they are looking for 1) PT 2) a school that is good at football with some modicum of offensive talent around them 3) an OC they think doesn't suck. Then the school that meets that criteria has to want one of them.

From what I'm hearing tons of guys are proactively reaching out to ND because of the elite OL and the fact that Drew Pyne put up numbers like he did while clearly being limited from a talent/capability standpoint. Card, Leary, and Armstrong (as well as some others I don't have names on) have all reached out to ND. ND is only going to take one guy tho. I would say that right now I think Card is the most likely one of the bunch to end up at ND because of his upside. I think Leary would've been top choice if not for injury.

I don't know how much NIL will or won't be a factor for some of these guys because very few in the portal are "proven" or would elicit some sort of bidding war.
I've said since buchner went down that the ND qb job for 2022 was going to be one of if not the most advertised transfer destination in football. We should be extremely competitive for any qb that enters.
 

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Honestly that’s a pretty valid point from an institutional perspective for any school let alone what is the premiere Catholic University in the world.

If someone parachutes in as a Junior/Senior it seems to me that they would miss out on much of what makes ND unique in that sense.
I’d agree if they didn’t give graduate degrees for people who haven’t attended the premiere catholic university in the world for undergrad. I’m a bit jaded my man, I think everything’s about money lol
 

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Screen Shot 2022-12-02 at 8.49.32 AM.pngI like the career yardage but man, the INT's are ugly and the sacks aren't pretty either.

Not sure how much those INT's are a product of the system or just his decision making. But seems to consistently throw picks
 

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There isn’t a single name in the portal that has perfect game film…..that’s why they’re in the portal. If you’re unimpressed there I can’t think of anyone you’ll be impressed by.

I don’t see Card is a savior, but I do think he is a capable P5 QB at minimum with a significant ceiling at maximum. Think that’s fair.
Frank Harris. He would change the projections for this team and has motivation to put a year on tape at a big boy school while cashing NIL checks.
 
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