2022 Master List

[arrowryan]

Big time update over at ISD this morning. Really recommend you guys checking them out if you aren't already a member.

Things should get very interesting over the next ten days.

Thinking about it. 247 does a good job, but ISD seems to really pump out the intel.

 

[Irish Man3]

Thinking about it. 247 does a good job, but ISD seems to really pump out the intel.

Highly recommended

 

[BeauBenken]

Big time update over at ISD this morning. Really recommend you guys checking them out if you aren't already a member.

Things should get very interesting over the next ten days.

Yea, Mike Frank just dropped an absolute bomb of positive news.

 

[arrowryan]

Yea, Mike Frank just dropped an absolute bomb of positive news.

Spill the deats

 

[BeauBenken]

Spill the deats

He seems to think we will see decisions made in the next week and weekend from much of our board: Singleton, Anderson, Morrison, Ayomanor, Hinzman, Brunner, Schrauth, Pope, Nwankpa, Taylor, Sneed, Hayden, Moore, and even CJ Williams.

https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/60124

 

[Luckylucci]

Singer had an update last night where he said there are essentially 6 silent commits.

 

[Dale]

Singer had an update last night where he said there are essentially 6 silent commits.

I did not at all agree with his definition of a silent though. He essentially defined it as someone will lead for who is deciding soon or could pull the trigger soon which is not what I think or when reading the word silent commit.

 

[Dale]

He seems to think we will see decisions made in the next week and weekend from much of our board: Singleton, Anderson, Morrison, Ayomanor, Hinzman, Brunner, Schrauth, Pope, Nwankpa, Taylor, Sneed, Hayden, Moore, and even CJ Williams.

https://irishsportsdaily.com/forums/1/topics/60124

Gonna be fun following only class of ‘23 and Anthony Lucas’ recruitment till NSD lol

 

[fightingirish26]

Gonna be fun following only class of ‘23 and Anthony Lucas’ recruitment till NSD lol

don't you mean the plan B's for all those guys?

 

[Trait Expectations]

Gonna be fun following only class of ‘23 and Anthony Lucas’ recruitment till NSD lol

And Merriweather, right? I think his plan is is to take it into the all star games/NSD?

 

[Dale]

And Merriweather, right? I think his plan is is to take it into the all star games/NSD?

Should have used italics but yeah I think there is some thought he may not stick to that but that’s what he says.

 

[stpeteirish]

Singer had an update last night where he said there are essentially 6 silent commits.

is that for '22 recruits only or does it include any '23 guys? Keeley comes to mind.

 

[NDMIA]

.9766 4* Xavier Nwankpa - 6/18/21
.8958 4* Benjamin Morrison - 6/11/21
.8900 3* Devin Moore - 6/11/21
.8889 4* Jake Pope - 6/11/21
.8839 3* Jayden Bellamy - 6/18/21
.8678 3* Kevin Winston - 6/25/21

Am I missing anyone from the DB board? Nikai Martinez is off, Covil is going to Clemson, Cam Miller doesn't seem to have much ND traction, and Austin Ausberry has been dead silent since he came on a visit/camp and got his offer. I hope the top two guys are our commits for the 2022 DB class. Nwankpa seems to be a OSU/ND battle that seems to be reaching decision time soon! I lean towards OSU with all of the CB's from 247/Rivals but you never know. Morrison is picked by Singer, Loy and Sinclair to come to ND so that has me hopeful but his top 2 seems to be Washington/ND and they've got their OV this weekend. For Jake Pope I hope ND can beat out UNC for him because he'd be another great get. Devin Moore has Singer/Loy CB's and should hopefully make a decision soon but still has 4 OV's to use if he wants. Jayden Bellamy is an interesting one because I see CB's to Rutgers for him and an OV to Penn State but not much on what came from his visit to ND. I imagine the DB board will have some answers here really soon as to who will join the fold. My dream class would be Nwankpa, Mickey, Morrison and Pope. After that Winston, Moore, and then Bellamy. I can't imagine the staff takes many more than 4 DB's this cycle so I hope they are needle-movers! For Nwankpa, an OSU safeties board of:

.9640 4* Josh Proctor
.9485 4* Ronnie Hickman
.9291 4* Kourt Williams
.9286 4* Lathan Ransom
.9269 4* Andre Turrentine
.9269 4* Jantzen Dunn
.8851 3* Jaylen Johnson
.8756 3* Bryson Shaw
.8701 3* Marcus Hooker

Outside of Houston Griffith (leaving), Kyle Hamilton (leaving) and I think Litchfield Ajavon there's not much in the way of highly and heavily recruited talent. That's not to say ND's got no talent but they sure seem to have a better depth chart built for upward mobility than Ohio State's where he'll have to compete just to get in the rotation his freshman year. I'll be very curious between now and mid-July what happens with ND and their DB board. I'm cautiously optimistic!

 

[Luckylucci]

TX S Robert Fitzgerald is getting a NW CB from Wiltfong after his OV there.

This is how Pat Fitzgerald has been able to win so many games. Quality job here.

 

[rtrn2glory]

TX S Robert Fitzgerald is getting a NW CB from Wiltfong after his OV there.

This is how Pat Fitzgerald has been able to win so many games. Quality job here.

That northwestern offer for DBs is one I'm really starting to take notice of these past few years. Kinda like the Virginia tech offer in the bud foster days

 

[BobbyMac]

TX S Robert Fitzgerald is getting a NW CB from Wiltfong after his OV there.

This is how Pat Fitzgerald has been able to win so many games. Quality job here.

Like safety Trevon Howard's CB's too. He's a guy I've liked since he was playing with Jalen Suggs in Minny.

 

[BeauBenken]

Mike Frank says he's not sure how good he feels about any of the Wisconsin boys.

 

[lcaps20]

I think all of the pay sites are starting to ease the subscribers into the idea that ND will go 0-3 for the Wiscy boys. Hopefully they can keep up the momentum for Wagner.

 

[BobbyMac]

Always felt Heyer would be the next guy ND would jump on but it didn't happen. So you know what that means, they always end up at Stanford, SC or Michigan.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/LHeyer77/status/1410233792728645638[/TWEET]

 

[ColinKSU]

Judging by the way Tommy and his offensive assistants recruit, thank god we have Marcus Freeman and his defensive assistants.

 

[BobbyMac]

Judging by the way Tommy and his offensive assistants recruit, thank god we have Marcus Freeman and his defensive assistants.

I think you'll have a hard time complaining about Del when you look at his '21/'22 classes and Quinn has 4/5's of his next 3 seasons locked up.

I guess TE could be going better.

 

[ColinKSU]

I think you'll have a hard time complaining about Del when you look at his '21/'22 classes and Quinn has 4/5's of his next 3 seasons locked up.

I guess TE could be going better.

They have to actually land those players they haven’t landed yet, so I guess we’ll see. I know Freeman and his assistants can do that.

I appreciate the optimism though.

 

[Dale]

Mickens and O’Leary (half our D staff), unless we land Nwankpa, will have whiffed on their blue chip targets. I suppose they are not tenured as Alexander but h/t Singer pointing out the overall scrutiny of some coaches versus others

I’m 100% playing devils advocate here btw

 

[BobbyMac]

They have to actually land those players they haven’t landed yet, so I guess we’ll see. I know Freeman and his assistants can do that.

I appreciate the optimism though.

They will not land one WR you won't like this cycle and they're gonna land at least 4. They are already turning away / slow playing guys we'd have killed for in recent years.

Now, I'd like a Buchner / 5*Phil level of QB at least every other year but maybe that's coming in '24 if you know what I'm Sayin



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[NDMIA]

2021
.9747 4* Jakailin Johnson
.9681 4* Jordan Hancock
.9269 4* Andre Turrentine
.9269 4* Jantzen Dunn
.9215 4* Denzel Burke
.8851 3* Jaylen Johnson

2022
.9918 5* Jaheim Singletary
.9747 4* Terrance Brooks
.9497 4* Jyaire Brown
.8899 3* Ryan Turner
.8858 4* Kye Stokes (4* on Rivals and ESPN)

.9774 4* Zion Branch - current leader but long way to go with a top 5 (Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State, and USC)
.9766 4* Xavier Nwankpa - OSU/ND battle

If I'm ND I'm hammering home this picture. Nwankpa can walk in and potentially start from Day 1 at ND. There's close to a 0% chance of that happening at Ohio State. Hats off to Kerry Coombs for finding the right bag men in his recruiting but Nwankpa should realize that this is a crazy depth chart and one injury could derail his development there with them recruiting at this level. I think he's close to a Kyle Hamilton-type player but in OSU's class he could end up being the 4th or even 5th highest rated DB they have coming in which is wild.

2021
.8992 4* Philip Riley
.8871 3* Khari Gee
.8722 3* Ryan Barnes
.8721 3* Justin Walters
.8721 3* Chance Tucker
.8647 3* JoJo Johnson

2022
.9129 4* Jaden Mickey

That's laughably different than OSU's 2021 and 2022 classes.

 

[Dale]

ND is selling him on early PT, that is confirmed, but doing so in the fashion you describe is a dangerous web. They’ve done it from the lense of look what Kyle Hamilton has done. Comparing to more talented rosters can raise negative questions namely:

- Talented players want to play with talented players, most are confident they will win out anyways. Also the iron sharpens iron aspect.

- Less talented roster tends to lead to less NFL production, which is certainly the case at DB here.

- Less talented rosters will often lead to less winning which between the two is a debate for sure but not sure one we win.


On the flip side, you can turn all those things around on guys like Zach Rice as why to not choose the easy depth chart.

 

[Fbolt]

Also the iron sharpens iron aspect.

ugh

 

[ColinKSU]

They will not land one WR you won't like this cycle and they're gonna land at least 4. They are already turning away / slow playing guys we'd have killed for in recent years.

Now, I'd like a Buchner / 5*Phil level of QB at least every other year but maybe that's coming in '24 if you know what I'm Sayin

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Was Anderson one of the WRs they turned away?

 

[BobbyMac]

Was Anderson one of the WRs they turned away?

No or we would've heard they won't be recruiting him anymore.

I do get the feeling they didn't close on him when they could have. Whether that was misreading the room feeling they had him 100% in the boat but wanted to figure out Ayomanor before taking his commitment or feeling so confident after he told the staff he was coming to South Bend, that they let him go to Shoetopia for a look behind the Phil's curtain. To me it seems to be a procedural problem in the Tommy/BK greenlighting Del to close.

That said... The finish is set up for the Walker, Tobias, CJ, Ayomanor finish that I've been hoping for since Elic came into the picture and I gave up on Bradshaw.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Yeah as good as Anderson could be, I'm more excited about Ayomanor. Yeah it's a lazy comparison, but wouldn't we all love another Claypool?