2022-2023 Notre Dame Men's Basketball

[GrangerIrish24]

hoping he unretires today so he can be fired tomorrow

 

[drayer54]

Think I saw it on twitter... but someone put out Fran McCaffrey as a name to keep an eye on. Former assistant and wife went to ND, or something.

… NO

 

[Irish#1]

Why would they want to hire someone that's 70 years old? That literally defeats the purpose of building towards the future lol

70 isn’t rocking chair age. You can flip a program in 1-2 years. If he gave just 3-5 years it would set the program up for the next coach.

 

[irishfan]

70 isn’t rocking chair age. You can flip a program in 1-2 years. If he gave just 3-5 years it would set the program up for the next coach.

Especially in this era. We have a 7-man rotation with 2 being freshmen and 3 being former transfers.

 

[texbender]

did not see game, but the result tells it all. team has hit rock bottom. sad way for coach to go out, and probably leaves program in shambles.

 

[irishandy]

Our new coach is going to have to do some digging out of a deep hole. There is nothing positive to say about ND basketball right now. I thought yesterday they would come out with some fight, energy, some want-to.

I am surprised that JJ Starling hasn't said F it and left the program....

 

[stpeteirish]

Our new coach is going to have to do some digging out of a deep hole. There is nothing positive to say about ND basketball right now. I thought yesterday they would come out with some fight, energy, some want-to.

I am surprised that JJ Starling hasn't said F it and left the program....

its a long way till September

 

[IrishLax]

New coach will need to hit transfer portal hard to even have a serviceable team. There are holes everywhere and you have to think a lot of the talented players may bounce.

 

[irishff1014]

Gonna need some patience’s that’s for sure. The portal will help but this could take a few years.

 

[Irish14]

New coach will need to hit transfer portal hard to even have a serviceable team. There are holes everywhere and you have to think a lot of the talented players may bounce.

Id imagine it will be several years of trying to take multiple grad transfers with the challenge of getting undergrad transfers admitted. While building on recruiting classes in the process of doing that.


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[CHIDomer9]

Especially in this era. We have a 7-man rotation with 2 being freshmen and 3 being former transfers.

Haven’t watched a game in a few weeks.

7 man rotation?

Did they get a couple new guys?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I would have no problem with Beilein. Proven winner.

He ought to be proven. He's 70 years old. Also currently not coaching, so he's available.

Someone younger and more sober than Brey would be a really good starting point.

 

[irishfan]

Id imagine it will be several years of trying to take multiple grad transfers with the challenge of getting undergrad transfers admitted. While building on recruiting classes in the process of doing that.


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We’ve had better luck in basketball with the undergrad transfers for whatever reason. Larger pool of respectable colleges with credits that actually transfer over would be my guess but we also got Hansbrough as an undergrad transfer from Mississippi State. Back in the early Brey days we also took undergrad transfers from Arizona and Maryland.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Haven’t watched a game in a few weeks.

7 man rotation?

Did they get a couple new guys?

Same 7 man rotation they've had all year:

F: Nate Laszewski
G: Cormac Ryan
G/F: Dane Goodwin
G: JJ Starling
G: Marcus Hammond
F: Van Allen Lubin
G: Trey Wertz


I feel like I say this every game to myself but Saturday was the lowest point I can remember in NDMBB under Brey. I tuned in based entirely out of emotion after Brey's announcement and I was curious to see if the squad would bounce back and play with some fire...nope. Took the offense forever to get going in the 2nd half and despite coming back from 12+ points down, once the Irish started scoring at will, the defense disappeared. Story of the season: this team is incapable of playing complementary basketball.

 

[USMCVandy]

Think I saw it on twitter... but someone put out Fran McCaffrey as a name to keep an eye on. Former assistant and wife went to ND, or something.

I hope not. With his lack of success (Now in his thirteenth year at Iowa, he has been unable to get over the hump despite coaching a number of talented players) why think it would be any different at ND.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I hope Swarbrick starts out by reaching out to Chris Quinn and Monty Williams. Both are probably long shots, especially the latter, but can't hurt to see if they're interested.

If they're looking at the mid-major ranks, I think Dusty May from FAU and Pat Kelsey from Charleston have to be near the top of the list.

 

[pumpdog20]

I hope not. With his lack of success (Now in his thirteenth year at Iowa, he has been unable to get over the hump despite coaching a number of talented players) why think it would be any different at ND.

Valid point... though a whole different recruiting world opens up with Indiana HS compared to Iowa. And he does seem to do a good job of developing players.

 

[Irish#1]

He ought to be proven. He's 70 years old. Also currently not coaching, so he's available.

Someone younger and more sober than Brey would be a really good starting point.

Not all are proven winners though!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Fran McCaffery is basically a crankier Mike Brey. Well, at least Mike Brey up till about 4 years ago.

Coaches who could get their teams into the tournament but likely out of the tournament very quickly. Coaches who are usually running efficient offenses, but show little interest in playing defense. Coaches who generally field unathletic teams.

Fran is expected to become Iowa's All-time Wins Leader next year, two kids on the team. Plus I don't view ND's basketball program any better than Iowa.

Only way Fran pursues ND is if he's convinced he's close to being fired. Even if he has interest, don't think it makes much sense on ND's end.

 

[MacIrish75]

Fran McCaffery is basically a crankier Mike Brey. Well, at least Mike Brey up till about 4 years ago.

Coaches who could get their teams into the tournament but likely out of the tournament very quickly. Coaches who are usually running efficient offenses, but show little interest in playing defense. Coaches who generally field unathletic teams.

Fran is expected to become Iowa's All-time Wins Leader next year, two kids on the team. Plus I don't view ND's basketball program any better than Iowa.

Only way Fran pursues ND is if he's convinced he's close to being fired. Even if he has interest, don't think it makes much sense on ND's end.

Iowa is definitely a better basketball job than ND.

 

[phillyirish]

Iowa is definitely a better basketball job than ND.

Why is that? ND is top 10 all time in tournament appearances, Iowa is like ~30th. Both teams currently have 3 players in the NBA.

 

[MacIrish75]

Why is that? ND is top 10 all time in tournament appearances, Iowa is like ~30th. Both teams currently have 3 players in the NBA.

I would say currently, not all time, Iowa is a more attractive job.

Iowa is a wrestling school…but they do a good job supporting the basketball program. They’re the flagship public school in the state. Fran makes twice what Brey makes, per year. It’s easier to recruit to IA than it is to ND for the most part.

I’m not saying I would choose Iowa over ND, but I think it’s probably easier to sustain create and sustain success there than at ND.

 

[stpeteirish]

Why is that? ND is top 10 all time in tournament appearances, Iowa is like ~30th. Both teams currently have 3 players in the NBA.

Who are the three ND players in the NBA?

 

[anarin]

Off the top of my head, Connaughton and Wesley are two.

 

[notredomer23]

Who are the three ND players in the NBA?

Pat and Wesley. Matt Ryan is probably the third but I don’t consider him

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Long read, but for those that are familiar with Chris Wilson and his Rakes Report, as well ND hoops fans, this is a must-read. Takes us down memory lane for a lot of the peaks of Brey's career here at ND. (Rakes Report is also a must-read during football season, IMO. You can subscribe to receive his weekly emails).

Rakes Report #209: And fifteen minutes later we had our first taste of whiskey, there was uncles giving lectures on ancient Irish history

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[Some Irish Bloke]

Pat and Wesley. Matt Ryan is probably the third but I don’t consider him

I think Matt Ryan counts, he's on a two-way contract but still playing some for the Timberwolves, and played 7 minutes last night. He also hit that buzzer beater for the Lakers last year to force OT, a game they eventually won 120-117.

In a sport where there are only about 450 players active in any given year, I think anybody suiting up can be "counted." Only 1.2% of college hoopers go on to the league...that's an exclusive club.

 

[notredomer23]

I think Matt Ryan counts, he's on a two-way contract but still playing some for the Timberwolves, and played 7 minutes last night. He also hit that buzzer beater for the Lakers last year to force OT, a game they eventually won 120-117.

In a sport where there are only about 450 players active in any given year, I think anybody suiting up can be "counted." Only 1.2% of college hoopers go on to the league...that's an exclusive club.

He transferred to Vandy as a sophomore and got his real value out of his performance at Chattanooga.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

He transferred to Vandy as a sophomore and got his real value out of his performance at Chattanooga.

I see what you're saying, that's completely fair.

 

[ACamp1900]

I haven't watched much basketball yet this season.... judging by this thread being consistently at the top of the forum I assume we are rolling and looking at another deep tourney run...