2018 - State of the Recruiting Class thread

[fightingirish26]

Player rankings must have been updated.

Kevin Austin is now above Allen as ND's top-rated commit.

Looks like dirksen, ovie, and bauer slipped a little and austin got a boost.

 

[snoopdog]

Looks like dirksen, ovie, and bauer slipped a little and allen got a boost.

Yes, he has fallen into Mabry territory now.

IMO this is extremely problematic for the future of not only the O-line but the team overall.

Can't lose the 1st rounders and replace them with scout team players

Hopefully they can move Ewell onto the O-line and he can perform well.

 

[beryirish]

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https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-Recruiting-Scoop-111439143

Notre Dame Recruiting Scoop
The Irish coaching staff has been all over the country this week, as Notre Dame continues to recruit the nation’s top prospects to South Bend. Here is the latest scoop.

 

[beryirish]

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may already be posted or mentioned in player threads.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-hitting-important-targets-on-Thursday-111430918

Notre Dame hitting important targets on Thursday
The Notre Dame coaching staff remains out on the recruiting trail on Thursday. Irish Illustrated and 247Sports bring you the latest on their whereabouts.

The Notre Dame coaching staff remains out on the recruiting trail on Thursday.

Irish Illustrated and 247Sports bring you the latest on the whereabouts of the Fighting Irish coaches.

As we reported earlier this week, offensive line coach Harry Hiestand is expected at Tampa (Fla.) Berkeley Prep high school to see five-star offensive tackle Nicholas Petit-Frere. That was the plan as of Tuesday, according to head coach Dominic Ciao. The 6-6, 272-pounder is the top target for Notre Dame on the offensive side of the ball and one the Irish are looking to make a big impression on in the coming weeks. Petit-Frere, the nation’s No. 10 overall player in the 2018 class per 247Sports, continues to look at Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida and Alabama.

Defensive backs coach Todd Lyght is in Washington, DC., on Thursday to see Woodson four-star cornerback and Maryland commit Noah Boykin. The 6-2, 170-pounder took an official visit to South Bend back on Oct. 28 and has continued to have dialogue with the Notre Dame coaching staff ever since. Boykin remains in play for the Fighting Irish, as the staff looks to land at least one more cornerback this cycle. Maryland, Virginia, USC and Virginia Tech are all in play as well.

Defensive coordinator Mike Elko is seeing his top guy on Thursday. He will be in Marietta, Ga., for an in-home visit with Lassiter four-star defensive back and U.S. Army All-American Derrik Allen. The Top100 talent remains a rock solid commitment to Notre Dame is planning on signing early with the Fighting Irish in a few weeks. Allen is a special talent in the secondary and one that will absolutely find the field as a true freshman in South Bend.

Wide receivers coach DelVaughn Alexander is heading to New Orleans to visit with McDonogh 35 four-star wide receiver Lawrence Keys III. The electric pass-catcher is been a priority recruit for Alexander and the offensive coaches for months and the plan remains the same — get him to South Bend for an official visit as soon as possible.

Stay locked to this thread throughout the day, as we continue to provide updates on where the coaches will be.

 

[GowerND11]

Yes, he has fallen into Mabry territory now.

IMO this is extremely problematic for the future of not only the O-line but the team overall.

Can't lose the 1st rounders and replace them with scout team players

Hopefully they can move Ewell onto the O-line and he can perform well.

Dude, we put together a very nice class on the OL last year. We may still steal a guy this year, and next year looks like a solid year for the line. You don't replace guys with true frosh that leave in the 1st round.

2nd, since when would Ewell move to the offensive side?

 

[Luckylucci]

Yes, he has fallen into Mabry territory now.

IMO this is extremely problematic for the future of not only the O-line but the team overall.

Can't lose the 1st rounders and replace them with scout team players

Hopefully they can move Ewell onto the O-line and he can perform well.

Don't worry, they didn't. They'll be replacing them with Eichenberg, Kraemer, Lugg, Hainsey, Banks. Might not be Nelson good, but they're good players. 3 top 100 OL and all 5 are top 170 or better.

 

[snoopdog]

Don't worry, they didn't. They'll be replacing them with Eichenberg, Kraemer, Lugg, Hainsey, Banks. Might not be Nelson good, but they're good players. 3 top 100 OL and all 5 are top 170 or better.

I am Pretty high on Kraemer and Hainsey
wait and see on Eichenberg...but so far so good
Nobody has any idea on how well Lugg and Banks will work out, but let's assume they are decent

Who's left. One injury? One Transfer? One academic casualty?

We didn't just lose McG and Nelson

We lost Hoge and Boudreaux, Plus will lose Barr and Bivin and Bush...And added scout team players to date.

This is a problem for the entire offense. You are assuming the soph's are plug and play...at a high level....playing a ridiculous SOS.

I think it is like playing defense last year without a secondary....really bad news.

Edit:

Might not be Nelson good???? Do you think??????? Or are you assuming there is a chance all five will be 1st team all American next year.

 

[BobbyMac]

FYI for you guys that don't really understand recruiting, rankings & ratings.

247 didn't change their ratings and their rankings only changed minimally from other players being updated. Their Composite R&R's changed due to changes at Rivals, ESPN and the deletion of Scout's R&R's.

In Austin's case:

247 still has him rated as a 93 and his ranking is now #21 WR / #123 OA vs #20 WR / #118 OA. This had no affect on his Comp rating shown on the ND Commit page.

Rivals moved him from #28 WR to #13 and raised his rating to a 5.9 from a 5.8.

ESPN moved him to #83 OA / #14 WR from #90 OA / #15 WR

Scout was deleted and they had him as the #33 WR / #170 OA

This raised his Comp R&R's from:

#23 WR / #109 OA / .9522 rating on 11-8-17 to...

#12 WR / #68 OA / .9647 rating

I went through the entire list and 247 still feels the same way (rating) about all the ND commits as they did at the start of November.

 

[NDdomer2]

I am Pretty high on Kraemer and Hainsey
wait and see on Eichenberg...but so far so good
Nobody has any idea on how well Lugg and Banks will work out, but let's assume they are decent

Who's left. One injury? One Transfer? One academic casualty?

We didn't just lose McG and Nelson

We lost Hoge and Boudreaux, Plus will lose Barr and Bivin and Bush...And added scout team players to date.

This is a problem for the entire offense. You are assuming the soph's are plug and play...at a high level....playing a ridiculous SOS.

I think it is like playing defense last year without a secondary....really bad news.

Edit:

Might not be Nelson good???? Do you think??????? Or are you assuming there is a chance all five will be 1st team all American next year.

you are assuming that Hoge and Boudreaux weren't scout team level players

 

[ACamp1900]

I went through the entire list and 247 still feels the same way (rating) about all the ND commits as they did at the start of November.

Can you actually break this down in detail?? Recruit for Recruit??

 

[BobbyMac]

I am Pretty high on Kraemer and Hainsey
wait and see on Eichenberg...but so far so good
Nobody has any idea on how well Lugg and Banks will work out, but let's assume they are decent

Who's left. One injury? One Transfer? One academic casualty?

We didn't just lose McG and Nelson

We lost Hoge and Boudreaux, Plus will lose Barr and Bivin and Bush...And added scout team players to date.

This is a problem for the entire offense. You are assuming the soph's are plug and play...at a high level....playing a ridiculous SOS.

I think it is like playing defense last year without a secondary....really bad news.

Edit:

Might not be Nelson good???? Do you think??????? Or are you assuming there is a chance all five will be 1st team all American next year.

Source?

You forgot probably losing Bryne. There are no more other scout team OL's being lost to graduation besides Sam Bush.

 

[BobbyMac]

Can you actually break this down in detail?? Recruit for Recruit??

I can because I have R&R snapshots from various times throughout the year tracking the 4 (now 3) services' R&R's. In some of the profiles I post two sets of R&R's to show the change like Derrik Allen going from a highly rated Soph CB through his transition to a Safety.

 

[snoopdog]

you are assuming that Hoge and Boudreaux weren't scout team level players

No....I assumed they would be wait and see players....BUT higher than both Mabry and Dierksen......... and Jones (if he flips)

Hoge was definitely at the Eichenberg level, Boudreaux well below.....but probably Banks level.

Next year first game against Michigan....Gary lining up all over the place. You feeling good that Eichenberg is going to control him, or Lugg, or Hainsey?

I realize that is a unique case.....but with the ND SOS the next few years.....starting light with the o-line is a recipe for disaster.

 

[ACamp1900]

I can because I have R&R snapshots from various times throughout the year tracking the 4 (now 3) services' R&R's. In some of the profiles I post two sets of R&R's to show the change like Derrik Allen going from a highly rated Soph CB through his transition to a Safety.

 

[NDdomer2]

No....I assumed they would be wait and see players....BUT higher than both Mabry and Dierksen......... and Jones (if he flips)

Hoge was definitely at the Eichenberg level, Boudreaux well below.....but probably Banks level.

Next year first game against Michigan....Gary lining up all over the place. You feeling good that Eichenberg is going to control him, or Lugg, or Hainsey?

I realize that is a unique case.....but with the ND SOS the next few years.....starting light with the o-line is a recipe for disaster.

you been watching practice? or you basing all these comparisons off Rankings?

 

[OhioIrish31]

you been watching practice? or you basing all these comparisons off Rankings?

Wait...we're allowed to watch practices? I'm in!

 

[GowerND11]

Wait...we're allowed to watch practices? I'm in!

Is Jack Nolan narrating?!?!

 

[Luckylucci]

I am Pretty high on Kraemer and Hainsey
wait and see on Eichenberg...but so far so good
Nobody has any idea on how well Lugg and Banks will work out, but let's assume they are decent

Who's left. One injury? One Transfer? One academic casualty?

We didn't just lose McG and Nelson

We lost Hoge and Boudreaux, Plus will lose Barr and Bivin and Bush...And added scout team players to date.

This is a problem for the entire offense. You are assuming the soph's are plug and play...at a high level....playing a ridiculous SOS.

I think it is like playing defense last year without a secondary....really bad news.

Edit:

Might not be Nelson good???? Do you think??????? Or are you assuming there is a chance all five will be 1st team all American next year.

So they are in the same boat as NPF, accept they've been in the system longer. You are the classic fan, the shiny new toy is automatically better than the guy who's been in the system and hasn't played yet, because he has other good players in front of him.

Do you even remember what you post? You said that you can't replace 1st rounders with scout team OL or it will be problematic to the future of this team. Your post strongly insinuates that Freshman would somehow be plug and play, and now your saying we can't rely on sophomores and juniors to do that. C'mon man, you got to be better than this.

Potentially, both Zach Martin and Ronnie Stanley were. Do you even follow this team. Nelson is an elite OL, so were two guys before him. He's not a unicorn.

And if this post couldn't get any worse, you are now calling guys that HH is recruiting scout team players, as if you have any clue what you are talking about. Who was the last 1st rounder you coached or recruited? Give me a break. Maybe you should sit this one out.

 

[snoopdog]

So they are in the same boat as NPF, accept they've been in the system longer. You are the classic fan, the shiny new toy is automatically better than the guy who's been in the system and hasn't played yet, because he has other good players in front of him.

Do you even remember what you post? You said that you can't replace 1st rounders with scout team OL or it will be problematic to the future of this team. Your post strongly insinuates that Freshman would somehow be plug and play, and now your saying we can't rely on sophomores and juniors to do that. C'mon man, you got to be better than this.

Potentially, both Zach Martin and Ronnie Stanley were. Do you even follow this team. Nelson is an elite OL, so were two guys before him. He's not a unicorn.

And if this post couldn't get any worse, you are now calling guys that HH is recruiting scout team players, as if you have any clue what you are talking about. Who was the last 1st rounder you coached or recruited? Give me a break. Maybe you should sit this one out.

Shiny new toy??? really???

Do you think ND is set at O-line going forward?

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Shiny new toy??? really???

Do you think ND is set at O-line going forward?

Classic way of avoiding the fact you contradicted yourself.

 

[snoopdog]

No! I am just confused as hell from trying to figure out other posters thoughts.

Notre Dame is losing two of the best o-line in the country and are replacing them with two recruits who keep dropping down the charts.

HH is a great coach, not a miracle worker he is a great coach because he recruited 5 and 4 stars. He didn’t recruit low three stars and turn them into stars. And Zach Martin wasn’t a low, and falling three star.

With the graduations and Transfers, depth is razor thin at oline. What do you not understand about this.

And to the poster who asked did I coach at the college level. Yes! And ironically it was oline. Same position I played.

 

[BobbyMac]

No! I am just confused as hell from trying to figure out other posters thoughts.

Notre Dame is losing two of the best o-line in the country and are replacing them with two recruits who keep dropping down the charts.

HH is a great coach, not a miracle worker he is a great coach because he recruited 5 and 4 stars. He didn’t recruit low three stars and turn them into stars. And Zach Martin wasn’t a low, and falling three star.

With the graduations and Transfers, depth is razor thin at oline. What do you not understand about this.

And to the poster who asked did I coach at the college level. Yes! And ironically it was oline. Same position I played.

Do you think Dirksen and Mabry are getting worse? The only reason Dirksen went from a Comp 4* OT to a 3* is Scout had him as the #9 OT. There is no longer any Scout rankings so his Comp rating took a hit. 247 & Rivals have him rated exactly the same as they did during camp season.

And for the last time, McG and Q are being replaced by Eichenberg and Kraemer/Hainsey. Mabry and Dirksen are replacing Lugg and Gibbons. If Jones signs he replaces Banks. Lucci's's tried over and over to explain this to you with no such Lucky.

 

[snoopdog]

I know the chronology of changes.

And the trend is disturbing

McG and Nelso are getting replaced by Kraemer and Eichenberg which will be a drop off.

And it continues to fall from there.

Lugg and Dillon aren’t in the league of any of the players mentioned above

Then Mabry and Dirksen aren’t in a the league of Lugg and Gibbons.

And I realize the response will be, how do you know that Kraemer and Eichenberg are going in the first round in two years. And then how do you know that Lugg and Gibbons won’t be as good any of the above.

Which of course is a joke.....but you and lucci just can’t see it.

 

[BobbyMac]

I know the chronology of changes.

And the trend is disturbing

McG and Nelso are getting replaced by Kraemer and Eichenberg which will be a drop off.

And it continues to fall from there.

Lugg and Dillon aren’t in the league of any of the players mentioned above

Then Mabry and Dirksen aren’t in a the league of Lugg and Gibbons.

And I realize the response will be, how do you know that Kraemer and Eichenberg are going in the first round in two years. And then how do you know that Lugg and Gibbons won’t be as good any of the above.

Which of course is a joke.....but you and lucci just can’t see it.

What did you think about last year when Hainsey, Lugg, Banks & Gibbons came in and McGovern and Harrell left? Did you think that can happen every year?

You are under educated like most when it comes to Josh Lugg. He wasn't a .9440 Composite for no reason. Basically every national analyst covering the Opening Finals said Josh Lugg was no worse than the 3rd best OT there behind Little and Sarell. Many had him ahead of Sarell.

What makes YOU think Dirksen is less of a prospect than Gibbons? Bill Greene who covers Ohio from Scout is one of the analysts responsible for ranking him #9 OT nationally. What did you see in his film that leads you to that conclusion?

I personally don't expect anything but depth from Gibbons but as you'll see below, a TON of NFL OG's were lesser prospects coming out of HS. Every program needs 2nd and 3rd teamers. What you should try not to do is worship R&R's. It's tough to pick who's gonna be a killer and who's gonna be filler. Hunter Biven was a 247 Top 50, Nick Martin and Sam Mustipher were barely Top 500 3 stars.

Look at the guys from last years draft. There's more sub 4* drafted in the 1st-5th Rd than 4* & 5*'s. R&R's mean nothing INDIVIDUALLY.

OT's: (Only 3 of the Top 10 OT's taken were 4* or 5*)

1. Garrett Bolles - Utah - 0*/UR - 1st Rd
2. Ryan Ramczak - Wisconsin - 0*/UR - 1st Rd
3. Cam Robinson - Alabama - 5*/100 - 2nd Rd
4. Antonio Garcia - Troy - 2*/71 - 3rd Rd
5. David Sharpe - Florida - 4*/95 - 4th Rd
6. Julie'n Davenport - Bucknell - 0*/UR - 4th Rd
7. Will Holden - Vandy - 3*/80 - 5th Rd
8. Jermaine Eluemunor - T A&M - 0*/UR - 5th Rd
9. Roderick Johnson - FSU - 4*/95 - 5th Rd
10. Sam Tevi - Utah - 3*/87 - 6th Rd

OG: (Only 3 of the Top 10 OG's taken were 4* or 5*)

1. Forrest Lamp - WKU - 2*/UR - 2nd Rd
2. Dion Dawkins - Temple - 0*/UR - 2nd Rd
3. Taylor Moton - WMU - 2*/76 - 2nd Rd
4. Dan Feeney - IU - 3*/82 - 3rd Rd
5. Dorian Johnson - Pitt - 5*/100 - 4th Rd
6. Nico Siragusa - SDSU - 3*/82 - 4th Rd
7. Zach Banner - USC - 4*/95 - 4th Rd
8. Jordan Morgan - Kuntztown - UR - 5th Rd
9. Isaac Asiata - Utah - 3*/89 - 5th Rd
10. Danny Isidora - Miami F - 4*/90 - 5th Rd

OC: (Only 1 of the 6 OC's drafted was a 4* or 5*)

1. Ethan Pocic - LSU - 4*/95 - 2nd Rd
2. Pat Elflein - OSO - 3*/82 - 3rd Rd
3. Sean Harlow - Ore St - 3* /87 - 4th Rd
4. JJ Dielman - Utah - 3*/80 - 5th Rd
5. Chase Roullier - Wyoming - 2*/76 - 6th Rd
6. Kyle Fuller - Baylor - 3*/87 - 7th Rd

 

[snoopdog]

What did you think about last year when Hainsey, Lugg, Banks & Gibbons came in and McGovern and Harrell left? Did you think that can happen every year?

You are under educated like most when it comes to Josh Lugg. He wasn't a .9440 Composite for no reason. Basically every national analyst covering the Opening Finals said Josh Lugg was no worse than the 3rd best OT there behind Little and Sarell. Many had him ahead of Sarell.

What makes YOU think Dirksen is less of a prospect than Gibbons? Bill Greene who covers Ohio from Scout is one of the analysts responsible for ranking him #9 OT nationally. What did you see in his film that leads you to that conclusion?

I personally don't expect anything but depth from Gibbons but as you'll see below, a TON of NFL OG's were lesser prospects coming out of HS. Every program needs 2nd and 3rd teamers. What you should try not to do is worship R&R's. It's tough to pick who's gonna be a killer and who's gonna be filler. Hunter Biven was a 247 Top 50, Nick Martin and Sam Mustipher were barely Top 500 3 stars.

Look at the guys from last years draft. There's more sub 4* drafted in the 1st-5th Rd than 4* & 5*'s. R&R's mean nothing INDIVIDUALLY.

OT's: (Only 3 of the Top 10 OT's taken were 4* or 5*)

1. Garrett Bolles - Utah - 0*/UR - 1st Rd
2. Ryan Ramczak - Wisconsin - 0*/UR - 1st Rd
3. Cam Robinson - Alabama - 5*/100 - 2nd Rd
4. Antonio Garcia - Troy - 2*/71 - 3rd Rd
5. David Sharpe - Florida - 4*/95 - 4th Rd
6. Julie'n Davenport - Bucknell - 0*/UR - 4th Rd
7. Will Holden - Vandy - 3*/80 - 5th Rd
8. Jermaine Eluemunor - T A&M - 0*/UR - 5th Rd
9. Roderick Johnson - FSU - 4*/95 - 5th Rd
10. Sam Tevi - Utah - 3*/87 - 6th Rd

OG: (Only 3 of the Top 10 OG's taken were 4* or 5*)

1. Forrest Lamp - WKU - 2*/UR - 2nd Rd
2. Dion Dawkins - Temple - 0*/UR - 2nd Rd
3. Taylor Moton - WMU - 2*/76 - 2nd Rd
4. Dan Feeney - IU - 3*/82 - 3rd Rd
5. Dorian Johnson - Pitt - 5*/100 - 4th Rd
6. Nico Siragusa - SDSU - 3*/82 - 4th Rd
7. Zach Banner - USC - 4*/95 - 4th Rd
8. Jordan Morgan - Kuntztown - UR - 5th Rd
9. Isaac Asiata - Utah - 3*/89 - 5th Rd
10. Danny Isidora - Miami F - 4*/90 - 5th Rd

OC: (Only 1 of the 6 OC's drafted was a 4* or 5*)

1. Ethan Pocic - LSU - 4*/95 - 2nd Rd
2. Pat Elflein - OSO - 3*/82 - 3rd Rd
3. Sean Harlow - Ore St - 3* /87 - 4th Rd
4. JJ Dielman - Utah - 3*/80 - 5th Rd
5. Chase Roullier - Wyoming - 2*/76 - 6th Rd
6. Kyle Fuller - Baylor - 3*/87 - 7th Rd

Well actually 4 came in and 4 went out. The 4 that left were at a minimum equally regarded as recruits as the 2017 vintage. You forgot to include Hoge and Boudreaux.

I guess you are purposefully forgetting what happens when you lose a star, like Martin or Stanley. Can you recall how the HH coached O- line did in 2016 after losing Stanley. That line did in fact have McG, Nelson, Barr and Mustipher.

So losing McG and Nelson shouldn't have an impact because 1) HH 2) next year is different 3) because.

And to add glorious insult to this situation....ND is whiffing on this years class. Yes I know.....no stars = best class ever, look at the draft as proof.

I only write this because I am a little underwhelmed by the outbound talent over the past three years and not enough replacements coming in to replace them.

So imo Your point only holds water if every single recruit out performs expectations, which we both know to be highly unlikely.

 

[arrowryan]

I know the chronology of changes.

And the trend is disturbing

McG and Nelso are getting replaced by Kraemer and Eichenberg which will be a drop off.

And it continues to fall from there.

Lugg and Dillon aren’t in the league of any of the players mentioned above

Then Mabry and Dirksen aren’t in a the league of Lugg and Gibbons.

And I realize the response will be, how do you know that Kraemer and Eichenberg are going in the first round in two years. And then how do you know that Lugg and Gibbons won’t be as good any of the above.

Which of course is a joke.....but you and lucci just can’t see it.

Kraemer and Liam could be a drop off from Mike and Q at the start of the 2018 season because, ya know, no team in the country can replace two potential top 10 picks without there being some sort of drop off.

Are you saying that Liam/Lugg/Kraemer/Hainsey etc. will be a drop off because they haven't played yet? Or what? Because from a recruiting standpoint, these players were very similar to Mike and Q.

Did you say the same things when Ronnie Stanley was replacing Zach Martin and when Big Mike replaced Stanley? Because Lugg, Kraemer, Banks, Hainsey, and Eichenberg all had better composite rankings than Big Mike, so I'm sure you thought there was no way in hell Mike could put out the same production as Stanley.

The o-line is not normally a position in college where kids can come in as a true frosh and play immediately; at least not at Notre Dame. Kids need to be in the system, get that weight up, and get a feel for what college ball is like through practice. Stanley and Big Mike both sat on the bench for 2 years, I believe. That's just how it works.

I have all the faith in the world that Heistand will have the next LT/LG ready to play and I'd bet a lot of money they are high NFL draft picks as well

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Well actually 4 came in and 4 went out. The 4 that left were at a minimum equally regarded as recruits as the 2017 vintage. You forgot to include Hoge and Boudreaux.

I guess you are purposefully forgetting what happens when you lose a star, like Martin or Stanley. Can you recall how the HH coached O- line did in 2016 after losing Stanley. That line did in fact have McG, Nelson, Barr and Mustipher.

So losing McG and Nelson shouldn't have an impact because 1) HH 2) next year is different 3) because.

And to add glorious insult to this situation....ND is whiffing on this years class. Yes I know.....no stars = best class ever, look at the draft as proof.

I only write this because I am a little underwhelmed by the outbound talent over the past three years and not enough replacements coming in to replace them.

So imo Your point only holds water if every single recruit out performs expectations, which we both know to be highly unlikely.

Let's say everyone finally sees the light and agrees with you. We all decide you have a firm grip on the situation, what would you like to do about it? Besides complain incessantly, what is your hope in this thread?

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

The o-line is not normally a position in college where kids can come in as a true frosh and play immediately; at least not at Notre Dame. Kids need to be in the system, get that weight up, and get a feel for what college ball is like through practice. Stanley and Big Mike both sat on the bench for 2 years, I believe. That's just how it works.

Mcglinchey was in the rotation and got his first start his Sophomore season. Stanley was next-man in his freshman year and was starting right tackle his sophomore season. Just sayin.

 

[ab2cmiller]

So you are saying Hainsey is our next great OT

 

[NDMIA]

This year they had

.9835 Tommy Kraemer RS FR
.9707 Quenton Nelson RS JR
.9484 Alex Bars RS JR
.9280 Mike McGlinchey RS SR
.9123 Sam Mustipher RS JR

Next year they could have

.9835 Tommy Kraemer RS SO
.9614 Liam Eichenberg RS SO
.9605 Robert Hainsey SO
.9484 Alex Bars RS SR
.9123 Sam Mustipher RS SR

That's a higher rated offensive line than the year before. I think ratings are a little overrated in this aspect. I think it shows that there is incredible talent on the OL, but we don't know how they'll come together and perform as one unit.