2018 Master List

[CIrishWin]

Help Wanted: 2018 instant-impacts CB's.

If you have coverage skills that translate to the college game, even though you'll only be a true freshman, we want YOU!

Who's it gonna be?

Lyght said he wanted to get back to Houston a nice combo would be Anthony Cook and Jalen Green.

 

[BobbyMac]

2018 Hit List

2018 Hit List

This is my quickie teaser. My full ND rankings roll out tomorrow including the Don't ignore me Hippenhammer's at each position.



QB - Phil Jurkovec, Noah Botty-Ellis

RB - Markese Stepp, TJ Pledger, Ronnie Walker

WR - ASB, Micah Jones, Brian Hightower

TE - Pat Freiermuth, Brendan Bates, George Takacs

OT - Tommy Brown, Ryan Hayes, Qadir White

OG - Fred Scruggs, Finn Dirstine, Verdis Brown, John Dirksen

OC - Dan Dawkins, Tyrone Sampson, Travis Spreen

WDE - Justin Ademilola, John Waggoner, Tyreke Smith, Terrance Taylor

SDE - Devin O'Rourke, Malik Vann, Luke Ford

DT - Jason Ademilola, PJ Mustipher, Tommy Togiai

OLB - Ovie Oghoufu, Cam McGrone, IE Gaoteote, Dallas Gant

ILB - Bo Bauer, Dax Hollifield, Jack Sanborn

CB - Derrick Allen, Houston Griffith, Bookie Radley-hiles

S - Tyreke Johnson, Kwantel Raines, Trey Dean






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[NDinBoston]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish Crystal Ball Target Predictions
OSU recruit analyst with the CBs to MSU for ND OL offers John Dirksen and Ryan Hayes.

 

[CIrishWin]

Looking at the 2018 Class does any have thoughts on how many 5 year seniors we keep and are we recruiting 25 or will it be a smaller class.

 

[BobbyMac]

Should be a small class.

8 - Lost to eligibility
1 - NFL 99% probability = Q Nelson
1 - 100% not coming back under scholarship = MVG
1 - 75% grad transfer = Jimmy Bryne
4 - Could grad transfer = Nic Wieshar, J. Bonner, J. Hayes, P. Mokwuah

I'm assuming A. Bars, S. Mustipher & T. Newsome will be back for 5th.

Even with the possibility of ESB or AJ going to the NFL and the 2-3 other avg yearly casualties for any number of reasons, I don't the class gets over 20.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Should be a small class.

8 - Lost to eligibility
1 - NFL 99% probability = Q Nelson
1 - 100% not coming back under scholarship = MVG
1 - 75% grad transfer = Jimmy Bryne
4 - Could grad transfer = Nic Wieshar, J. Bonner, J. Hayes, P. Mokwuah

I'm assuming A. Bars, S. Mustipher & T. Newsome will be back for 5th.

Even with the possibility of ESB or AJ going to the NFL and the 2-3 other avg yearly casualties for any number of reasons, I don't the class gets over 20.

That's fine. Get an experienced team in for 2018 with only a few elite talents getting to play as freshmen.

 

[BobbyMac]

That's fine. Get an experienced team in for 2018 with only a few elite talents getting to play as freshmen.

I agree, ND's on the Stanford model by accident this cycle but...

This is a good cycle to have scholarships to give if you're ND.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I agree, ND's on the Stanford model by accident this cycle but...

This is a good cycle to have scholarships to give if you're ND.

Should've been on an augmented Stanford model since the 2011 & 2012 classes imploded. The staff has (mostly) not been putting in the effort in recruiting.

 

[IrishLion]

BK said during his NSD presser that they're "going to go outside of the profile" to recruit this class on offense. They want elite speed coming in, regardless of size.

I didn't think they really had a "profile" for offensive recruits. They've kind of recruited all over the board the last few years.

Perhaps they mean "no more jumbo receivers."

 

[CIrishWin]

Should be a small class.

8 - Lost to eligibility
1 - NFL 99% probability = Q Nelson
1 - 100% not coming back under scholarship = MVG
1 - 75% grad transfer = Jimmy Bryne
4 - Could grad transfer = Nic Wieshar, J. Bonner, J. Hayes, P. Mokwuah

I'm assuming A. Bars, S. Mustipher & T. Newsome will be back for 5th.

Even with the possibility of ESB or AJ going to the NFL and the 2-3 other avg yearly casualties for any number of reasons, I don't the class gets over 20.

Ok thanks. I agree with AJ expecting him to have a big year could be the number 1 tight end coming out.

 

[zelezo vlk]

BK said during his NSD presser that they're "going to go outside of the profile" to recruit this class on offense. They want elite speed coming in, regardless of size.

I didn't think they really had a "profile" for offensive recruits. They've kind of recruited all over the board the last few years.

Perhaps they mean "no more jumbo receivers."

1 ASB and 1 Jahan Dotson please

 

[BoredIrish]

BK said during his NSD presser that they're "going to go outside of the profile" to recruit this class on offense. They want elite speed coming in, regardless of size.

I didn't think they really had a "profile" for offensive recruits. They've kind of recruited all over the board the last few years.

Perhaps they mean "no more jumbo receivers."

Thats interesting.

Appears to be the exact opposite directon from what Urban is doing.

Urban Meyer Said Ohio State Didn't Change its Philosophy for Wide Receiver Recruiting; the Numbers Tell a Bit of Different Story | Eleven Warriors

 

[BobbyMac]

1 ASB and 1 Jahan Dotson please

Can't you just drop off 2-3 bags at Kamryn Babb's crib when you're in town for a Cards game? I think Jahan is too far down the aisle with other programs and more importantly our Jersey affiliates don't have your disposable income.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Can't you just drop off 2-3 bags at Kamryn Babb's crib when you're in town for a Cards game? I think Jahan is too far down the aisle with other programs and more importantly our Jersey affiliates don't have your disposable income.

Well I would if 1. I have the sort of disposable income that you seem to think I have and 2. I were going to St Louis this year. Looks like it's up to somebody else.

 

[BobbyMac]

Well I would if 1. I have the sort of disposable income that you seem to think I have and 2. I were going to St Louis this year. Looks like it's up to somebody else.

Come on now... I ain't ever heard you talkin' about Natural Light over in the beer thread. Me thinks you have plenty of DI by your craft beer buying practices, that or you're just faster than all the liquor store clerks in Austin.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Come on now... I ain't ever heard you talkin' about Natural Light over in the beer thread. Me thinks you have plenty of DI by your craft beer buying practices, that or you're just faster than all the liquor store clerks in Austin.

Nah it's just cheap. When I go to Live Oak, the beer is normally free. The HEB near me has plenty of singles that I can get for less than $2/bottle. And I have some friends that have different stuff, so we share. You can drink well for cheap down here.

 

[BobbyMac]

Nah it's just cheap. When I go to Live Oak, the beer is normally free. The HEB near me has plenty of singles that I can get for less than $2/bottle. And I have some friends that have different stuff, so we share. You can drink well for cheap down here.

I remember you saying if I was in town you'd buy me a beer at Live Oak. I see now that was truly an #AlternativeFact. lol

 

[zelezo vlk]

I remember you saying if I was in town you'd buy me a beer at Live Oak. I see now that was truly an #AlternativeFact. lol

Well I can still buy it.

 

[BobbyMac]

Well I can still buy it.

Which would be the gentlemanly thing to do on a first date and all.


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[NDdomer2]

BK said during his NSD presser that they're "going to go outside of the profile" to recruit this class on offense. They want elite speed coming in, regardless of size.

I didn't think they really had a "profile" for offensive recruits. They've kind of recruited all over the board the last few years.

Perhaps they mean "no more jumbo receivers."

Why does this make me feel like well hang on to big fish too long and be left scrambling at end.

 

[IrishLion]

Thats interesting.

Appears to be the exact opposite directon from what Urban is doing.

Urban Meyer Said Ohio State Didn't Change its Philosophy for Wide Receiver Recruiting; the Numbers Tell a Bit of Different Story | Eleven Warriors

Yeah, IDK if getting big receivers is the new thing, or if it's a matter of "if he doesn't have homerun speed, then bigger is better" for Urban.

BK has always recruited the receiver position pretty consistently. In a "full" WR class, he'll grab one burner, one tweener, and one big guy. Seems reasonable. You can put a burner on the outside or in the slot depending on need, and the jumbo receiver obviously sticks on the outside. You hit your needs for a well-rounded WR corps while maintaining some flexibility.

The last two classes kind of loaded up on the "jumbo" guys though, especially with Guyton leaving early, so perhaps that's where BK's emphasis on speed-over-profile is coming from right now.

 

[Irish#1]

I'd take three midgets if they can run the 40 in 4.2 or 4.3.

 

[CIrishWin]

That's fine. Get an experienced team in for 2018 with only a few elite talents getting to play as freshmen.

2018 assuming 20 in the class
Plan A / Plan B
QB P. Jurkovec
RB M. Stepp
RB T. Pledger/ K. Ingram
WR A. St. Brown / B. Hightower
WR M. Jones / K. Austin
TE T. Booker/ L. Taylor
OL T. Brown/ J. Dirksen
OL R. Hayes/ D. Jaramillo
OL W. Blake/ F. Scruggs
DE Ju. Ademilola
DE T. Smih/ E. Wade
DE D. O’Rourke / M. Vann
DT Ja. Ademilola
DT P.J. Mustipher/ A. Hawkins
LB M. Bauer
Rov O. Oghufo (may grow out of the position)
CB D. Allen/ T. Douglas
CB H. Griffith / K. Gervin
CB B. Radley-Hiles/ B. Lenzy
S J. Woodbey/ G. Newsome

 

[BobbyMac]

Had an offer last spring. Didn't get a profile posted. Didn't need one.

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[arrowryan]

No Junior Day commits yet? Unbelievable. Fire Balis.

 

[NDinBoston]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That's one ahead of the pace set by 2017 class (coming off 10-3 season) and two ahead of 2014 class (following national championship game).</p>— Tyler James (@TJamesNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI/status/830448438022111232">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[BobbyMac]

Difference is all 6 of the 2018 class were committed before Josh Lugg committed in the 2017 cyle. Lugg was commit #3 in 2017.

 

[NDinBoston]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another stat to ponder: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a>'s 2017 and 2018 classes had 11 commits a year before NSD. The previous six classes combined had 9.</p>— Tyler James (@TJamesNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI/status/830449823283286017">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[NDinBoston]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI">@TJamesNDI</a> Kelly’s best class (’13) LOADED up in late March after a Junior Day. To me, that’s just as “early” as committing jr. year fall.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/830453995722375168">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Agree with this. Any info or thoughts on the date for the next Junior Day (obviously after this weekend)?

 

[NDinBoston]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> offered 2017 TN OT <a href="https://twitter.com/cmabry5">@cmabry5</a>. He's a long and agile blocker with a great frame. Lots of room for growth. Really like this offer.</p>— Bryan Driskell (@BGI_CoachD) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_CoachD/status/830553597234597888">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mabry is on campus for junior day right now. <a href="https://t.co/Im29NUELff">https://t.co/Im29NUELff</a></p>— David McKinney (@BGI_DMcKinney) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DMcKinney/status/830545739042398210">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame is the latest offer for 2018 3-star Brentwood (Tenn.) OT Cole Mabry <a href="https://t.co/MIlGK2lGPn">https://t.co/MIlGK2lGPn</a> <a href="https://t.co/rkGecsdn40">pic.twitter.com/rkGecsdn40</a></p>— Woody Wommack (@RivalsWoody) <a href="https://twitter.com/RivalsWoody/status/830544565111226368">February 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Didn't find a thread for him.