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TomHaverford said:
The last two games vs better Ohio State teams were very close, and that was with Wilton Speight in 2016 and J'Oke in 2017. Both those games came down to the wire. This is the best defense that Jim has had in his time at Michigan. The best starting RB he's had. And by far the best QB he's had. It took Wilton Speight fumbling the ball at Ohio State's 1 yard, throwing a pick 6, and throwing another INT that was virtually a pick 6 after return yardage and a penalty ontop of that on Michigan gave OSU the ball at Michigan's 7 yard line for OSU just to get in the game. They were doing nothing on offense for 4 QTRs. That's a 21 point swing basically entirely at the feet of Wilton Speight. OSU barely won that game in double OT on a very controversial spot. Last year the game was 24-20 with 3 mins to go and Michigan having a shot to get the win. What does O'Korn do? Throw the INT on his first pass attempt of the final drive.

Shea Patterson is a lot better than either of those jokers. Michigan's run game is a lot better right now than it was in 2016 or 2017. A senior Karran Higdon is better than a senior De'veon Smith in 2016. And Ohio State's run game is the worst it's been since Meyer has been there. The zone read option and the QB draw have always been a huge part of Meyer's rushing attack and it makes the RB's/OL- the entire run game better. It's completely gone with Haskins who is a statue in the pocket and it's affecting the entire run game. And OSU's defense is the worst it's been in at least a decade- maybe more.

Michigan should win the game by double digits. Will they? We'll see.

As for Indiana- well the game is home coming in Ann Arbor. I highly doubt they will be overlooking Indiana at home for home coming.
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Hit the WR right in the hands? Lol. Wimbush underthrew an arm punt right to freshman safety Brad Hawkins. Who by the way- was only in the game because of a highly questionable targeting call on starting safety Josh Mettelus.

Hawkins should've had the interception. He had the interception. Let some little 5 ft nothing walk-on nobody white receiver who never made a catch in his life and probably never will again take it away from him. It happens. It's better to be lucky than good, and that walk-on got lucky. Kind of like the scrub from the Giants in the Super Bowl when he caught a Hail Eli prayer on his helmet. Shit happens.
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You know what I read Tommy.....

1. Excuse
2. Excuse
3. Excuse
4. Excuse
5. Excuse

Embarrassed to know a little white 5ft walk on out smarted and out fought your scholarship player?

Now go home. Your mom has your grilled cheese and tomato soup ready.
 
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Can someone point out the reasons we hate Michigan?
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1. They suck.
2. They are from Michigan.
3. They suck.
4. They have weasels come to other team message boards and insult their players with stuff they can't backup.
5. Michigan STILL sucks!
 
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The funniest thing about Finke "sucking" is...

He's only third on ND with 32/383 but those numbers would have him at #1 on Michigan's receiving list regardless if he was an unrated white WR or a 5* black WR like DPJ.

Just sayin.

Thanks for banning him.
 
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“That kid sucks.”
Chris Finke is a good WR... with evidence and data to prove that.

“Questionable targeting call”
That was one of the most clear instances of shoulder-to-helmet of all time. Wasn’t even trying to make a clean hit.

Straight up, ND clowned Don Brown in the first half, and they did it with a backup QB and with their best RB suspended.

Fuck off and thank you very much, Tom. It’s gonna be wonderful schadenfruede when OSU beats scUM, and Harbaugh has to find the next great excuse.
 
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Where 5 foot white walk-on nobodies and 2nd string QBs outclass your dominant maize and blue defense. Pure Michigan.
 
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Oh snap... I apparently owe Havafelch an apology. This whole time I thought Finke was white... but from the replay of him going up over that safety like he did, it's obvious he's just light-skinded.

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Wow...

WTF Tom?

I just have this to say on all that mess...Desmond Howard and Fink are particularly comparable on contested balls...stars make no difference when you just want it more than anyone on the field...that was Howard and is Fink. Say what ya will about other aspects of their respective games, but that trait is what made me respect Howard, and why I know Fink is an asset.

As for Michigan being better...The eye test and advanced metrics are suitable surrogates for observed experience when you have no observed experience.

Notre Dame beat Michigan. Notre Dame beat Northwestern more handily than Michigan. Those are Observed experiences...at that point anything else being considered is simply a chicken shit veil for bias.

One other point that is, in my mind, why the advanced metrics and eye test shit are not applicable here...coaching/preparation. Khaki pants was out coached by Kelly and Co...does that change?
 
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TomHaverford said:
Revisionist history, much?

Notre Dame threw for a whopping 170 yards that game. 43 of those yards, or 25.8% of all passing yards, came on what can only be described as a one in a million fluke play.

Wimbush completed 54% of his passes for 1 TD and 1 INT and 170 yards.

But yeah, keep telling yourself that. Lol.
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First half, Wimbush was 10/15 for 148 yards and a TD.

Second half, after throwing a first drive INT, they went away from passing entirely. I don't know why this is so hard for your little skunkbear brain. They knew Michigan couldn't score on them unless they made mistakes, so they went away from plays where negative plays might happen... i.e. don't beat yourself with interceptions or negative plays. While fans hate going conservative, it worked because Michigan's suck-ass offense scored ZERO offensive touchdowns for 58 minutes and ND was rightfully not scared of it.

The one second half drive where they took some aggressive shots, they had a 26 yard TD pass to Boykin called back on being lined up one step incorrectly. So all first half ND had no problem throwing over the top with someone who is not an accurate passer, and then in the second half they chose not to do that because of the risks. This is all quite simple.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56594; Locked in on every single rep.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BeatSeminoles?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BeatSeminoles</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SlipperyFox10?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SlipperyFox10</a> <a href="https://t.co/QiBRgQZNjC">pic.twitter.com/QiBRgQZNjC</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1059972849178419200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This Finke highlight is from yesterday.

Is this a fluke too? LOL
 
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NDCrusader said:
The funniest thing about Finke "sucking" is...

He's only third on ND with 32/383 but those numbers would have him at #1 on Michigan's receiving list regardless if he was an unrated white WR or a 5* black WR like DPJ.

Just sayin.

Thanks for banning him.
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I would've never thought this and had to stat check it. It just seemed fairly unbelievable. That offense sucks so much butt that our 3rd most productive WR would be their best. Ha.
 
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Next narrative from ESPN, "ND uses white power in H2H win. Do they really deserve to be ranked higher than Michigan"
 
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Luckylucci said:
I would've never thought this and had to stat check it. It just seemed fairly unbelievable. That offense sucks so much butt that our 3rd most productive WR would be their best. Ha.
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All of our stat leaders on offense beat Michigan's stat leaders. Even Book who has 3 less games played. He beats Patterson on passing yards and rushing TD's and I think has 1 more TD thrown. Dexter has about 400 less rushing yards than Higdon but has 1 more TD and played in 4 less games. ND has 4090 total yards and 38 total TD's. Michigan has 3778 total yards and 36 TD's. Think how much better our stats would be with Book for 3 more games.
 
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IrishFaninTX said:
All of our stat leaders on offense beat Michigan's stat leaders. Even Book who has 3 less games played. He beats Patterson on passing yards and rushing TD's and I think has 1 more TD thrown. Dexter has about 400 less rushing yards than Higdon but has 1 more TD and played in 4 less games. ND has 4090 total yards and 38 total TD's. Michigan has 3778 total yards and 36 TD's. Think how much better our stats would be with Book for 3 more games.
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And Dexter for 4.
 
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Bravo to the mods for getting that fake tough guy out of here.

Things don't go well, you disappear. Get a little steam, and it all goes to your head. Fake tough, just like Michigan ever since Harboner got here.

24-17, and it wasn't that close. Thanks for the resume win, Tom/Michigan. We'll use it gladly in to get to the playoffs.

Enjoy your excuses and after-the-fact-justifications. Be glad you played against our inept QB and backup RBs, and stay fake.
 
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Irish YJ said:
Next narrative from ESPN, "ND uses white power in H2H win. Do they really deserve to be ranked higher than Michigan"
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Counterpoint:

ND defeated Michigan, a public institution who has a deep history rooted in unapologetic bigotry by bucking long held positional stereotypes, fielding a black QB and white WR who led them to victory and shall be forever remembered as...

The Rainbow Throwalition.
 
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