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Originally Posted by NDgradstudent
People say immigration 'made the country great,' but I don't really understand how that is so. In my view, what has made this country great is that it was founded by Englishmen.
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The American aborigines and those of other countries around the world that were blessed to be part of the British Empire beg to differ

Ireland
Cromwell
Plantations: Presbyterian Scots evicted from their ancestral homes on the border of Scotland and England and relocated on the ancestral lands of Irish Catholics inspiring 500 years of religious strife.
Penal Laws
Trevalyen
Workhouses
Deportation to van Diemans Land
Churchill
Black & Tans
Bloody Sunday
9 centuries of English "Law" a code word for genocide.

Australia
Colonized by POMEs, Prisoners of Mother England
Aborigines

Tasmania
See Australia

South Africa
Boer Interment camps where 22,000 children died

Rhodesia
The people that brought us engagement rings and scholars

Kenya
Kikuyu
May Mau

India
Famine
Partition 500,000 murders
Amritsar Massacre General Dyer

Malaysia

Cyprus

Sykes Picot

Etc, etc

Hitler was a little more than a decade. English "law" has aided population control (for the non-English) for over a thousand years. Ask the Scots and Welsh.

South America might be the only occupied continent on the planet that has been spared the benefits of English law and governance
 
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connor_in said:
I was shocked to see this at Salon of all places.

It’s time to draft Al Gore: If Democrats want to win, it’s clear neither Hillary nor Sanders is the way - Salon.com
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I loved the"revenge" part. I was laughing out loud. The most notable parts of the Florida Debacle was dimpled chads and Carville's Red Ass.

It brought back memories of Carville proclaiming they would rise up... Prophetic if he meant 8 years later...but somehow I think he meant the present time. If Gore appears on the scene, it likely means so will Skeletor Carville, who would put the Devil himself out of a job.
 
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phgreek said:
I loved the"revenge" part. I was laughing out loud. The most notable parts of the Florida Debacle was dimpled chads and Carville's Red Ass.

It brought back memories of Carville proclaiming they would rise up... Prophetic if he meant 8 years later...but somehow I think he meant the present time. If Gore appears on the scene, it likely means so will Skeletor Carville, who would put the Devil himself out of a job.
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While I think that article is laughable if they are in fact saying Gore needs to run but the most "notable" thing from that election is the fact that SCOTUS decided who the president was.

Carvelle's butthurt is nothing compared that doozy... but hey... GWB was elected and we all know how fantastic that was for our country. So kudos. We have to get our fun somewhere.
 
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In this Family Guy episode, Death allows Peter to go back in time, but when he returns to the present he discovers he is married to Molly Ringwald and Lois is married to Quagmire. An alternate version of the world is presented in which Al Gore is president, Osama is no longer a problem, flying cars run on vegetable oil, universal healthcare exists, crime is virtually non-existent, education is well-funded, and Dick Cheney the chairman of Haliburton shot Supreme Court Justice Scalia and the bullet went right through him and killed Karl Rove, and Tucker Carlson
 
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BGIF said:
The American aborigines and those of other countries around the world that were blessed to be part of the British Empire beg to differ

Ireland
Cromwell
Plantations: Presbyterian Scots evicted from their ancestral homes on the border of Scotland and England and relocated on the ancestral lands of Irish Catholics inspiring 500 years of religious strife.
Penal Laws
Trevalyen
Workhouses
Deportation to van Diemans Land
Churchill
Black & Tans
Bloody Sunday
9 centuries of English "Law" a code word for genocide.

Australia
Colonized by POMEs, Prisoners of Mother England
Aborigines

Tasmania
See Australia

South Africa
Boer Interment camps where 22,000 children died

Rhodesia
The people that brought us engagement rings and scholars

Kenya
Kikuyu
May Mau

India
Famine
Partition 500,000 murders
Amritsar Massacre General Dyer

Malaysia

Cyprus

Sykes Picot

Etc, etc

Hitler was a little more than a decade. English "law" has aided population control (for the non-English) for over a thousand years. Ask the Scots and Welsh.

South America might be the only occupied continent on the planet that has been spared the benefits of English law and governance
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Static Analysis = weak/simple minded
 
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connor_in said:
I was shocked to see this at Salon of all places.

It’s time to draft Al Gore: If Democrats want to win, it’s clear neither Hillary nor Sanders is the way - Salon.com
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Al Gore or John Kerry would make excellent presidents, but I doubt either is seriously interested. America made the same mistake twice in electing George W. Bush. It would be nice to be able to correct that mistake. My personal choice would be Jim Webb, a moderate Democrat without a lot of baggage. Bernie Sanders (while he may be the darling of the left) would have a hard time winning a general election. If it is Hillary against one of the existing Republican field (with the possible exception of John Kasich), I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary.

In a Hillary vs. Kasich race, I'd have to give some thought to voting for Kasich. He appears to be a moderate Republican. But first I'd have to dig deeper to find out who is financing his campaign and just how moderate he really is. I'm a little fearful of having a president that would just rubber-stamp the far-right agenda.
 
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GoldenDome said:
After crowds of:

5000 - Houston
8000 - Dallas
11000 - Phoenix

Conservatives #FeelTheBern right now. SMH at Cons calling Bernie a nazi when his family was murdered in the holocaust.

Love the smear campaign, shows Cons are scared after Bernie pulled huge crowds in a largely conservative state.

#FeelTheBern

Bernie Sanders's Politics of National Socialism | National Review Online
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Where do those guys go to vote when Hillary wins the nomination? Love all you want, but his odds of winning the nomination are somewhere between slim and none. Kind of like Ron Paul supporters in years past, do they stay home, vote third party or hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? I don't know enough about the Sanders movement to gauge where these supporters end up when they get denied their wunderkid.
 
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EddytoNow said:
Al Gore or John Kerry would make excellent presidents, but I doubt either is seriously interested. America made the same mistake twice in electing George W. Bush. It would be nice to be able to correct that mistake. My personal choice would be Jim Webb, a moderate Democrat without a lot of baggage. Bernie Sanders (while he may be the darling of the left) would have a hard time winning a general election. If it is Hillary against one of the existing Republican field (with the possible exception of John Kasich), I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary.

In a Hillary vs. Kasich race, I'd have to give some thought to voting for Kasich. He appears to be a moderate Republican. But first I'd have to dig deeper to find out who is financing his campaign and just how moderate he really is. I'm a little fearful of having a president that would just rubber-stamp the far-right agenda.
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Translation - I am a democrat and I think every Democrat who ever ran for president would have been better than any Republican who was president. Very level analysis there.

It is impossible to know how anyone would react to 911. With the benefit of hindsight, I am not sure turning the other cheek and going about our merry way wouldn't have been the best response. I don't see any politician ever doing that though, Gore would have been compelled to lash out at someone though.

I do not doubt Gore would have gone out of his way to hamstring the energy industry. Would we have the oil/gas market picking up our economy the last few years if the EPA was 8 years ahead of what Obama has been implementing? It is easy for me to imagine rolling brownouts and "where a sweater" campaigns from the White House with increased dependence on the Middle East over the last 15 years if Gore would have won. You may see that as horrible for mother earth but for our GDP is it kind of a big deal.

Ideally, we would have just flipped the bird to terrorists and responded with aggressive oil and gas expansion while rebuilding NYC ASAP. Save billions of dollars and fuel our economy for more growth.
 
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Clinton In Trouble In 3 Swing States

Clinton In Trouble In 3 Swing States

July 22, 2015 - Clinton In Trouble In Colorado, Iowa, Virginia, Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds; Trump's Negatives Are Almost 2-1


2016 Presidential Swing State Polls Poll - July 22, 2015 - Clinton In Trouble In Colorado | Quinnipiac University Connecticut


Perhaps the biggest loser, however, is Donald Trump, who has negative favorability ratings of almost 2-1 in each state, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds. The Swing State Poll focuses on key states in the presidential election.

Trump won the bottom before his comments on McCain and Graham.
 
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BGIF said:
The laddie's a third generation Black Watch legacy. It's where he gets his motto:

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit

("No One Provokes Me With Impunity")
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Ah, the good ole Reicudan Dhu... those of my family tend to 'Forget Not'...
 
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RDU Irish said:
Where do those guys go to vote when Hillary wins the nomination? Love all you want, but his odds of winning the nomination are somewhere between slim and none. Kind of like Ron Paul supporters in years past, do they stay home, vote third party or hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils? I don't know enough about the Sanders movement to gauge where these supporters end up when they get denied their wunderkid.
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Why smear him with blatant lies? And why can conservative writers get away with obvious lie considering Sanders family was murdered in the holocaust? Nice deflection though.
 
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RDU Irish said:
It is impossible to know how anyone would react to 911. With the benefit of hindsight, I am not sure turning the other cheek and going about our merry way wouldn't have been the best response. I don't see any politician ever doing that though, Gore would have been compelled to lash out at someone though.
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Who wanted to turn the other cheek? Everyone was interested in finding the people responsible for the attacks.

But no one, not even another Republican, would have turned the attention to Iraq. Only the people Bush surrounded himself with (i.e., Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld) would have thought to make that connection.
 
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