2016 Presidential Horse Race

[phgreek]

White males! Sheesh.

The foreign policy experts and gurus would be a little more convincing if they were consistently right about anything.

Who is it that we are supposed to be trusting regarding our foreign policy with Russia? We've been all over the place lately, and the CIA and NATO have been pretty darn active in that part of the world for a long time. It's hard for me to understand how Russia is supposed to act. Especially when (arguably) ethnically and historically Russian Crimea is involved.

It's like the Iraq war. It was supposed to be proof that toppling bad guys and trying to nation-build was a bad idea, yet we supported the same things in Lybia and Egypt, and want to do it again in Syria. Dems and Republicans are all over the place on these issues.

Without giving trump credit where none is due, is there really some clear guiding principle that Clinton is applying that makes so much sense of the situation?

Absolutely...She has a (D) next to her name.

As I've said before, for all the bitching about George Bush (W) and Iraq, Clinton did it AFTER. She not only oversaw fucking up a basically calm Iraq, but then added more on with Libya. She apparently saw Russia much the same as Mr. Obama, and thought them so "80s", and offered up a so two thousands schtick with the easy button / reset button. Crooked, poor judgement, stupid optics...awesome! I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for her, because with a monkey you have a random chance of the correct answer, and EXCEEDING expectations. With her, even when she isn't A) compromised by leaked email; B) compromised by Clinton foundation entanglements; C) compromised by shit we don't even know about yet; she'll still get it WRONG, and look like a fucking moron doing it.

 

[connor_in]

Absolutely...She has a (D) next to her name.

As I've said before, for all the bitching about George Bush (W) and Iraq, Clinton did it AFTER. She not only oversaw fucking up a basically calm Iraq, but then added more on with Libya. She apparently saw Russia much the same as Mr. Obama, and thought them so "80s", and offered up a so two thousands schtick with the easy button / reset button. Crooked, poor judgement, stupid optics...awesome! I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for her, because with a monkey you have a random chance of the correct answer, and EXCEEDING expectations. With her, even when she isn't A) compromised by leaked email; B) compromised by Clinton foundation entanglements; C) compromised by shit we don't even know about yet; she'll still get it WRONG, and look like a fucking moron doing it.

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[irishfan]

Trump speaking in Columbus right now. Saying any company that moves a factory out of the country won't be able to sell in the U.S. anymore. Not sure exactly how he plans on doing that, but I do think it will appeal to those in OH/PA.

He's also doing a town hall....I'll give him credit for actually being out there in the open when compared to Hillary. He might not really answer the questions with any detail, but at least he doesn't hide.

 

[pkt77242]

Trump speaking in Columbus right now. Saying any company that moves a factory out of the country won't be able to sell in the U.S. anymore. Not sure exactly how he plans on doing that, but I do think it will appeal to those in OH/PA.

He's also doing a town hall....I'll give him credit for actually being out there in the open when compared to Hillary. He might not really answer the questions with any detail, but at least he doesn't hide.

I can't wait to hear Wiz's opinion on the bold.

 

[GoIrish41]

Trump speaking in Columbus right now. Saying any company that moves a factory out of the country won't be able to sell in the U.S. anymore. Not sure exactly how he plans on doing that, but I do think it will appeal to those in OH/PA.

He's also doing a town hall....I'll give him credit for actually being out there in the open when compared to Hillary. He might not really answer the questions with any detail, but at least he doesn't hide.

This is the kind of stupid policy that he prescribes off the top of his head in front of a crowd. It will only appeal to people in PA and OH who have absolutely no clue. There is a reason why the more education people have, the less likely they are to support this dolt. It's also why he loves the poorly educated.

 

[irishfan]

This is the kind of stupid policy that he prescribes off the top of his head in front of a crowd. It will only appeal to people in PA and OH who have absolutely no clue. There is a reason why the more education people have, the less likely they are to support this dolt. It's also why he loves the poorly educated.

Oh, I agree. It's not something that he can do on a whim. But I think people who realize that at least appreciate that he's saying he wants to help them not the corporations.

 

[GoIrish41]

Oh, I agree. It's not something that he can do on a whim. But I think people who realize that at least appreciate that he's saying he wants to help them not the corporations.

He acts as if he is running to be Supreme Ruler of the U.S.A. and will be able to make things happen because he says so. If he wants to appeal to helping people against corporations, maybe he should start breaking out some Bernie policies.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

This is the kind of stupid policy that he prescribes off the top of his head in front of a crowd. It will only appeal to people in PA and OH who have absolutely no clue. There is a reason why the more education people have, the less likely they are to support this dolt. It's also why he loves the poorly educated.

I don't know if that's fair. I'm from Ohio and in my line of work the old guys who didn't graduate or barely graduated make guys with engineering degrees look like morons on a daily basis, I actually look forward to the arguments between them, its hilarious. But that's another topic.

These guys just like to swig beer and get in fist fights and 'tell it like it is'. Trump speaks to them, that doesn't mean there stupid or racist. They just like confrontation, and Trump is confrontational. I'm not defending Trump or his supporters But the dude knows how to get his 'fans' fired up.

I'm not gonna say Trump is this or that, or Hilary is this or that. In my opinion we are heading in the wrong direction and the train needs to stop. Trump will stop that train. Not sure where its gonna go, but i'm willing to take the chance.

 

[GoIrish41]

I don't know if that's fair. I'm from Ohio and in my line of work the old guys who didn't graduate or barely graduated make guys with engineering degrees look like morons on a daily basis, I actually look forward to the arguments between them, its hilarious. But that's another topic.

These guys just like to swig beer and get in fist fights and 'tell it like it is'. Trump speaks to them, that doesn't mean there stupid or racist. They just like confrontation, and Trump is confrontational. I'm not defending Trump or his supporters But the dude knows how to get his 'fans' fired up.

I'm not gonna say Trump is this or that, or Hilary is this or that. In my opinion we are heading in the wrong direction and the train needs to stop. Trump will stop that train. Not sure where its gonna go, but i'm willing to take the chance.

Is Trump going to apply the brakes or is he just a train wreck waiting to happen? Judging by his unexplained and often shockingly uninformed proposals, I'd say the train will stop in a twisted pile of metal and human tragedy. I will choose imperfect sanity and measured proposals over the politics of random barroom brawls. I want a leader who was chosen by people who have given their choice a little more thought than that. A guy who, at this point in the political campaign who has offered no plans (only vague and abrasive policies to appeal to the lowest common denominator) has no plans. What are your guys going to do on Nov. 9 when the hangover is full blown?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

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[woolybug25]

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Goofball atheist Wooly never had a chance

 

[Ndaccountant]

Losers such as Ndaccountant use me for publicity for themselves. They are strictly third rate.

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[GoIrish41]

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[Bishop2b5]

This is the kind of stupid policy that he prescribes off the top of his head in front of a crowd. It will only appeal to people in PA and OH who have absolutely no clue. There is a reason why the more education people have, the less likely they are to support this dolt. It's also why he loves the poorly educated.

Have you looked at the Dem voting base? You guys may get a large percentage of the most educated top 10-20%, but you also get virtually all of the least educated 20%. Dems get most of the top, Reps get most of the middle, and then you get virtually all of the bottom. That "None of your problems are your fault and we're going to fix them all for you" mantra you've been preaching to them for 50 years is certainly not designed for the educated and thinking classes. It's aimed at the least educated, least capable of understanding what's actually going on, and most gullible and susceptible to being told what they want to hear segments of our society.

 

[GoIrish41]

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This one is awesome! lol

 

[Bishop2b5]

Bishop2b5 was terrible.

And how would Trump know? Who does he think he is, my wife?

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Donald Trump: ‘I’m Afraid the Election Is Going to Be Rigged’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Preparing early for a loss?

 

[NorthDakota]

Love watching John fail

He didn't call me low energy, a hypocrite, or sad. Wtf.

 

[EddytoNow]

Donald Trump: ‘I’m Afraid the Election Is Going to Be Rigged’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Preparing early for a loss?

He's getting his excuses in order. The man, that never admits he made a mistake and the man that has a non-answer to every question he is asked, has to face the ultimate rejection if he loses. Will he call Hillary to congratulate her? Or will he twitter a bunch of personal insults her way?

I love how he mentions the letter from the NFL complaining about the tentative debate schedule, a letter the NFL never sent. And he has the gall to call his opponents liars on a regular basis.

 

[connor_in]

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[Bishop2b5]

Donald Trump: ‘I’m Afraid the Election Is Going to Be Rigged’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Preparing early for a loss?

Given the leaked e-mails of late, the extraordinarily high voter turnout among the dead in such places as Milwaukee, Chicago, and Philly, and that Hillary has DWS on her team, I can't imagine where Trump would get such a crazy idea.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Given the leaked e-mails of late, the extraordinarily high voter turnout among the dead in such places as Milwaukee, Chicago, and Philly, and that Hillary has DWS on her team, I can't imagine where Trump would get such a crazy idea.

Yeah, Trump couldn't possibly lose because he's turning off almost every sector of our country. Women, Hispanics, Blacks, the disabled, Muslims, POWs, Gold Star Parents, etc. He's blowing a very winnable election all by himself.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

He's getting his excuses in order. The man, that never admits he made a mistake and the man that has a non-answer to every question he is asked, has to face the ultimate rejection if he loses. Will he call Hillary to congratulate her? Or will he twitter a bunch of personal insults her way?

I love how he mentions the letter from the NFL complaining about the tentative debate schedule, a letter the NFL never sent. And he has the gall to call his opponents liars on a regular basis.

I'd bet everything on the latter. With the threat of a bogus lawsuit.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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[EddytoNow]

Given the leaked e-mails of late, the extraordinarily high voter turnout among the dead in such places as Milwaukee, Chicago, and Philly, and that Hillary has DWS on her team, I can't imagine where Trump would get such a crazy idea.

You forgot the 2000 election and the hanging chads. Oh, that's right. Those were Republicans keeping all the votes from being counted.

 

[GoIrish41]

I'd bet everything on the latter. With the threat of a bogus lawsuit.

Gotta stay in the public eye ... all news is good news for the Donald. It's all good for the brand. Ride that wave until it crashes!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

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Don't I know it!

 

[Bishop2b5]

Yeah, Trump couldn't possibly lose because he's turning off almost every sector of our country. Women, Hispanics, Blacks, the disabled, Muslims, POWs, Gold Star Parents, etc. He's blowing a very winnable election all by himself.

There are plenty of reasons Trump might lose, not least of which are the ones you named. However, that has nothing to do with what he said or his very well-founded fears in that department given the fact that Hillary's machine rigged the process against one of your own, not to mention a number of The Voting Dead and rigged elections from your party in the past.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Absolutely...She has a (D) next to her name.

As I've said before, for all the bitching about George Bush (W) and Iraq, Clinton did it AFTER. She not only oversaw fucking up a basically calm Iraq, but then added more on with Libya. She apparently saw Russia much the same as Mr. Obama, and thought them so "80s", and offered up a so two thousands schtick with the easy button / reset button. Crooked, poor judgement, stupid optics...awesome! I'd vote for a monkey before I'd vote for her, because with a monkey you have a random chance of the correct answer, and EXCEEDING expectations. With her, even when she isn't A) compromised by leaked email; B) compromised by Clinton foundation entanglements; C) compromised by shit we don't even know about yet; she'll still get it WRONG, and look like a fucking moron doing it.

Have you looked at the Dem voting base? You guys may get a large percentage of the most educated top 10-20%, but you also get virtually all of the least educated 20%. Dems get most of the top, Reps get most of the middle, and then you get virtually all of the bottom. That "None of your problems are your fault and we're going to fix them all for you" mantra you've been preaching to them for 50 years is certainly not designed for the educated and thinking classes. It's aimed at the least educated, least capable of understanding what's actually going on, and most gullible and susceptible to being told what they want to hear segments of our society.

I love both of you guys and really mean no disrespect. But this is exactly what I have been saying. Both of your posts are extremely egocentric. In fact, I cannot think of anyone but a white male Republican who would say any of what you did.

George W. Bush is the worst President the US has had with the possible exception of Warren G. Harding. His administration was just horrible. He is responsible for taking a fairly solid economy and totally fucking it up. Tax cuts, wars, and the rest of his nonsense. And he even fucked the wars up. He started a war with a country that had nothing to do with 911! Not only that, every reason his administration gave for starting that war was wrong. Totally bull shit. So he didn't have the resources to prosecute the war in Afghanistan against Al-Qaida, or capture and destroy ben laden. And then after seven plus years of playing with themselves a new President is elected, and he gets him boldly within three years!

So I think Hillary, who was a part of why OBL was finally killed engenders penis envy on the part of some. And, I think it is great that we can break it down as to how a person is going to vote by education or intelligence. I think you are selling Republicans short, overselling Democrats, giving them the whole 'bottom 50 percent.' Believe me, I know a lot of Republicans and some of them aren't the great golden middle, but are actually pretty stupid, and uneducated.

Don't kid yourself, you better believe most of the smart folks and those in the middle are actually independents!

 

[Bishop2b5]

You forgot the 2000 election and the hanging chads. Oh, that's right. Those were Republicans keeping all the votes from being counted.

You might want to research that one & stick to facts, not the spin.